Besides being a "job creator" and pitching this inflammatory Ad that is fully in support of the Republican platform by way of fear inducement... It is scary to see the final repercussions from Citizen's United and see that a private billionaire like Mr. Peterffy can just put up a random add, FULL of distortion and outright lies

So what exactly is he lying about? Hungary's poverty? That socialism destroys incentive?

I decided that it was worth our time to have this ad here, due to its historical ramifications and to really underline the lengths people in power or with wealth will go to, to get their way. It also deserves to get the backlash it needs to have thrown at it due to its utter ridiculous nature. This ad plays off of your emotional appeal, to your natural instinct to care.

Yeah, that's what political ads do, appeal to emotions. What do you think Dopey Change was running on? Facts? Logic?

But, the real truth is that some of it is probably created in a Hollywood studio, BUT if he IS showing true strife in Hungary he most likely has the markings of a person with almost NO empathy. Last, as must ALWAYS be pointed out, to basically call out these idiots, we are not ANYWHERE close to a SOCIALIST government! GET OVER IT! Your talking point sucks and it's nearly 20 years old now.

We're very close to a socialist government. The bastards have their tentacles in every process, business and action, unwelcome or not. New taxes continue to appear, money we don't have continues to burn. The Supreme Court has incorrectly ruled that individuals can be forced to buy a product, something that would have been scoffed at even 20 years ago. Responsibility has been supplanted by government warnings and programs. You can't even cut down a tree on your own land without approval from some dick in an office thousands of miles away. But we're not screwed like Europe...yet.

It's funny in the end that he is so remarkably scared of paying MORE taxes, yet he spends HUGE amounts of money to try and stop it with ads... It's all so ironic somehow. I just knew this guy was an 1% personality, when he endorses the ad at the end with his own name. Do everyone a favor if you have a Google account setup and go to the video, login, and vote it down.

I'm confident Mr. Peterrfy isn't afraid of paying more taxes, but he sees SOMETHING the American left does not.

What could it be?

>> ^bmacs27:

We need to coddle 20 year olds? Really? It seems to me that by 20 you ought to be held accountable for knowing some basic shit.
>> ^legacy0100:
I see that this young girl who looks barely 20 years old doesn't know what she is doing wrong, and the lady with the camera is right about the party discrimination. But I felt that as an older person the lady could've informed the youngin' the rights and wrongs of her actions without embarrassing her like that in public.
That part was very mean spirited and the lady was taking her anger against political shinanigans on a poor inexperienced teen who's just trying to get some volunteer hours in. I started cringing the moment lady started raising her voice on purpose trying to embarrass the girl. And If I heard correctly, I think the lady called the young girl a 'honey bitch' at the end... Politics brings out the worst in people, either those who use young, misinformed teens to do their wrong deeds or be it an angry woman who does everything she can to embarrass an inexperienced girl. Ugh...



While I totally agree with you, this is America, where education is absolute gobshite. I find it perfectly plausible that this "honey bunch" might not know how anti-democratic her job is. I also was very annoyed at the older woman taking her political frustration out like that, and found that it diminished the power of the video. She missed a wonderful opportunity to calmly explain (to the woman, but also and more importantly the viewers) why what she is doing is so wrong. *le sigh*

We need to coddle 20 year olds? Really? It seems to me that by 20 you ought to be held accountable for knowing some basic shit.

>> ^legacy0100:

I see that this young girl who looks barely 20 years old doesn't know what she is doing wrong, and the lady with the camera is right about the party discrimination. But I felt that as an older person the lady could've informed the youngin' the rights and wrongs of her actions without embarrassing her like that in public.
That part was very mean spirited and the lady was taking her anger against political shinanigans on a poor inexperienced teen who's just trying to get some volunteer hours in. I started cringing the moment lady started raising her voice on purpose trying to embarrass the girl. And If I heard correctly, I think the lady called the young girl a 'honey bitch' at the end... Politics brings out the worst in people, either those who use young, misinformed teens to do their wrong deeds or be it an angry woman who does everything she can to embarrass an inexperienced girl. Ugh...

>> ^legacy0100:

I see that this young girl who looks barely 20 years old doesn't know what she is doing wrong, and the lady with the camera is right about the party discrimination. But as an older person I felt that the lady could've informed the youngin' without embarrassing her like that in public.
That part was very mean spirited and she was taking out the anger against a poor inexperienced teen who's just trying to get some volunteer hours in. I started cringing the moment lady started raising her voice on purpose trying to embarrass the girl. And If I heard correctly, the lady called the young girl a 'honey bitch' at the end... Politics brings out the worst in people, either those who use young, misinformed teens to do their wrong deeds or be it an angry woman who does everything she can to embarrass an inexperienced girl. Ugh...


Sometimes embarrassment is necessary to teach a lesson. I think that girl should've been beaten until she wasn't stupid anymore. Oh how I wish I was a teacher.

I felt the same way. I bet she had no idea she was doing anything wrong - and she may have actually just been taking the job because she needs money. Who knows. Pretty sure she said honey bunch, tho.
>> ^legacy0100:

I see that this young girl who looks barely 20 years old doesn't know what she is doing wrong, and the lady with the camera is right about the party discrimination. But as an older person I felt that the lady could've informed the youngin' without embarrassing her like that in public.
That part was very mean spirited and she was taking out the anger against a poor inexperienced teen who's just trying to get some volunteer hours in. I started cringing the moment lady started raising her voice on purpose trying to embarrass the girl. And If I heard correctly, the lady called the young girl a 'honey bitch' at the end... Politics brings out the worst in people, either those who use young, misinformed teens to do their wrong deeds or be it an angry woman who does everything she can to embarrass an inexperienced girl. Ugh...

I see that this young girl who looks barely 20 years old doesn't know what she is doing wrong, and the lady with the camera is right about the party discrimination. But I felt that as an older person the lady could've informed the youngin' the rights and wrongs of her actions without embarrassing her like that in public.

That part was very mean spirited and the lady was taking her anger against political shinanigans on a poor inexperienced teen who's just trying to get some volunteer hours in. I started cringing the moment lady started raising her voice on purpose trying to embarrass the girl. And If I heard correctly, I think the lady called the young girl a 'honey bitch' at the end... Politics brings out the worst in people, either those who use young, misinformed teens to do their wrong deeds or be it an angry woman who does everything she can to embarrass an inexperienced girl. Ugh...

@ForgedReality, it is very much a "girl next door" thing. Maybe that's why people make what seems to me to be assumptions about her personality, she looks friendly, approachable and fun; but then her job is to look like something she's not. I find the girl next door look to be much more enduringly attractive than Angelina Jolie type drop dead gorgeous, but it is just a look. Calling this look cute rather than hot makes sense, but it's sexy cute. My 10 week old kitten is cute but that's a very different cute to Emma Watson!

I'm not sure what you mean with regard to @Kofi. I think he meant that men who grew up with the films and were around 12 years old when she was 12, so that's a fair enough crush - but now, as a 20 year old, they watch the first Harry Potter movie and those feelings are gone and they're left with a little girl who's cute like my kitten, not like adult Emma.

"Alot of people work really really hard for their dreams. But it's not meant for everybody.."

Yeah..

Says the abnormally famous and wealthy 20-year old..

>> ^Hive13:

There is a lot of hate for cops in general these days, but I have to admit I was incredibly impressed by this officer. He was direct, reasonable and calm. He handled the situation perfectly and I wish we had more police officers like him. These douchebags were cruising for a fight and were being total asses to him, rattling off facts the got from a random google search.
Well done, Officer M. Nork.


Yes he was incredibly nice to the armed white guys. I wonder what kind of reception a 20 year old black kid would get. Probably shotgun to the chest and stories about how the Black Panthers are back.

>> ^Sagemind:

Well, to be honest, it's not like they look like they are fishing in the ocean - I'd be shocked too..
This must be an inlet or something connected to the ocean, a place you wouldn't expect to see a shark.
Edit: I like the un-tube chopped version better.


PER YT-"MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. - A 20-year-old woman fishing near Myrtle Beach got the shock of a lifetime after a fish she was reeling in was attacked by what appeared to be a Bull shark.

According to Sarah Brame's video web page, the incident happened Tuesday while fishing behind her beach home, which appears to be in Cherry Grove.

Brame could be seen reeling in a 4-5lb Red fish when the shark attacked.

She estimated the shark to be around 6 ft long. Brame titled her video "The one that got away!"

though not quite as bad as this woman. I know a woman who is just like this. late 40s or early 50s, body of a 20 year old, but skin of a 80 year old because she tans so obsessively.

Is this one of those things where ultimately it will be blamed on men because of the "my man likes me like this" mentality?

Unless the man is tying you down and forcibly putting you under those bulbs, it's all on you honey.

Great story. Did you happen to make a video of it. Ticks, yuck. My cat brings one home from time to time. >> ^Xaielao:

Interesting story. One of my cats, a 20 year old outdoor orange tabi, has become fast friends with a white-tail deer. We see them lying together in the lawn from time to time. It's rather funny, but they are a duo to be sure. We aren't sure how the became friends.
Only downside is he often gets deer ticks.

Interesting story. One of my cats, a 20 year old outdoor orange tabi, has become fast friends with a white-tail deer. We see them lying together in the lawn from time to time. It's rather funny, but they are a duo to be sure. We aren't sure how the became friends.

Only downside is he often gets deer ticks.

I don't know if anyone's pointed this out, but who the fuck is in high school when they're 20 years old?

@NetRunner

I second longde's reply above. I haven't seen anything from Reverend Wright that sounds racist to me. On the contrary, when I listen to Rev. Wright speak, he seems to be someone deeply interested in bridging racial divides.

Some criticism of "Black Liberation Theology"


I certainly don't think Obama is a racist, which is what you're trying to say as well.

>>> Well, aren't you claiming Dr. Paul is a racist? The man is not a fool, and knows that the libmedia is against him. Yet he continues to run for office and suffer what is assuredly unfair scrutiny.

>>> What's truly in Obama's heart no one knows. I see either a closet racist--more concerned with accruing power than skin color--or a crafty politician--more concerned with accruing power than anything else.

As for my problem really being with libertarianism, it's both. One can be libertarian without being racist, and one can be racist without being libertarian, but the self-identified American white supremacists really adore libertarianism and Ron Paul.

>>> You may very well be making a fair statement about a majority of "self-identified American white supremacists", to which I reply, "So what?" Don't those people have a right to vote for whomever they wish? It's obvious they are not a large or serious base. Those people wear shoes, right? If they favor Keds, is everyone who wears Keds a racist?

Why? Because instituting libertarianism would legalize racial discrimination, religious discrimination, sexual discrimination (both gender and orientation). Depending on the type of libertarianism, they might even get slavery back via indentured servitude.

>>> Rather far-fetched. I can't seriously believe you're worried about this. You think the only thing holding the system together--guiding the economic, religious and moral decisions of 300 million people--are a few recent laws on the books?

So smart racists get really, really solidly behind libertarianism. Even smarter racists pretend not to be racist, they're just libertarians...who just happen to believe the Civil Rights Act is an unconscionable exercise of state power, and oh yeah, used to have this newsletter they published saying all kinds of racist crap.

Ooops.

It's actually Ron Paul who helped me realize that the true lineage of libertarianism can be traced right back to the South's self-serving claims that fighting for slavery was actually a fight for freedom. Basically everything having to do with State's Rights, property rights, right to contract, all that crap was used to justify slavery.

It was used again to defend Jim Crow, separate but equal, opposition to the Civil Rights Act, etc.

IMO, any legal or moral framework which can justify that rogue's gallery of policies should just be discarded, not whitewashed, spun, and resold to people as some bright vision of the future.

>>> The Civil War was far more complex than "slavery". For at least the first 18 months of the war, slavery was not THE issue, and the South had every right to secede.

Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and to form one that suits them better. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may make their own of such territory as they inhabit. More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority intermingling with or near them who oppose their movement.

Lincoln on the floor of Congress, 13 January 1848
Congressional Globe, Appendix
1st Session 30th Congress, page 94

>>> Lincoln made the war primarily about slavery, but slavery was already on the way out before the War even began. Slavery had been abolished in most of Europe. Only wealthy Southerners owned slaves, and industrialization made plantations less and less able to compete with the North.

>>> I have to take this moment to remind that it was Republicans who ended slavery, and Democrats who donned the white sheets.

>>> The alternative to a proper balance of power between States' Rights and the feds is what we have now: an all-powerful federal mafia, ruling without the rule of law, made all the more dangerous when Democrats are in power due to their mainstream media media lackeys.

>>> There's plenty of valid criticism of Dr. Paul out there without the non-issue of some 20-year-old newsletters. Because our time and interests are finite, I assume this charge of racism is just an easy way for the left to refute the libertarian message, though it be simple, neat and wrong.


>> ^NetRunner:

I second longde's reply above. I haven't seen anything from Reverend Wright that sounds racist to me. On the contrary, when I listen to Rev. Wright speak, he seems to be someone deeply interested in bridging racial divides.
I certainly don't think Obama is a racist, which is what you're trying to say as well.
As for my problem really being with libertarianism, it's both. One can be libertarian without being racist, and one can be racist without being libertarian, but the self-identified American white supremacists really adore libertarianism and Ron Paul.
Why? Because instituting libertarianism would legalize racial discrimination, religious discrimination, sexual discrimination (both gender and orientation). Depending on the type of libertarianism, they might even get slavery back via indentured servitude.
So smart racists get really, really solidly behind libertarianism. Even smarter racists pretend not to be racist, they're just libertarians...who just happen to believe the Civil Rights Act is an unconscionable exercise of state power, and oh yeah, used to have this newsletter they published saying all kinds of racist crap.
Ooops.
It's actually Ron Paul who helped me realize that the true lineage of libertarianism can be traced right back to the South's self-serving claims that fighting for slavery was actually a fight for freedom. Basically everything having to do with State's Rights, property rights, right to contract, all that crap was used to justify slavery.
It was used again to defend Jim Crow, separate but equal, opposition to the Civil Rights Act, etc.
IMO, any legal or moral framework which can justify that rogue's gallery of policies should just be discarded, not whitewashed, spun, and resold to people as some bright vision of the future.
>> ^quantumushroom:


@NetRunner and others, I question your collective "concern" over this non-issue, which is comical considering Dr. Paul has no chance of wining the nomination (or does he)?
I don't know if you voted for Chicago Jesus, but if the facts that he spent 20 years in the Church of Hate Whitey under the tutelage of the deranged Jeremiah Wright, got married in said church and also gave it 20Gs doesn't bother you, then your problem with Dr. Paul isn't "racism", it's libertarianism.