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A Streetcar Named Desire: The Birthday Party

Farhad2000 says...

I love this play and the movie adaptation.

A Streetcar Named Desire is a famous American play written by Tennessee Williams for which he was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for Drama in 1948.

The play is considered in modern society as an icon of its era, as it deals with a culture clash between two symbolic characters, Blanche DuBois—a pretentious, fading relic of the Old South—and Stanley Kowalski, a rising member of the industrial, inner-city immigrant class.

In 1951, a movie of the play, directed by Elia Kazan, won several awards, including an Academy Award for Vivien Leigh as Best Actress in the role of Blanche. In 1995, it was made into an opera with music by Andre Previn and presented by the San Francisco Opera.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Streetcar_Named_Desire_%28film%29

gwaan (Member Profile)

reln says...

gwaan, I have been researching and reading this stuff for over a decade now. I am not anti-palestinian and I have even been enlightened over the last few years. I know that the palestinians were the ones to suffer as a result of arab countries attacking Israel in 1948. I know their situation is terrible because of the way they have been treated by their own people and Israel. But I do know that most of the stuff I hear about Israel is simply not true.

Believe me, I know a lot about whats going on in the middle east.



In reply to your comment:
My mind isn't closed - there are many fine Articles and videos on Israel/Palestine - many by Jews and Israelis - you just haven't posted any yet.

Read as much as you can on Israel-Palestine (and Islam). Read books by Elmer Berger, Alfred Lilienthal, Norman Finkelstein, Tanya Reinhart, Tony Judt, Benny Morris and Ilan Pappé. Read Jimmy Carter, Chomsky, Edward Said - and books by other Palestinians . As an American read the following famous article published by Harvard University (http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06). Read books written by Zionists and those who opose Zionism. The American media is biased - as many of my Israeli friends will admit. Try reading the BBC website for a more objective view. Also read the Israeli press - their discussion of the issues involved is a lot freer than in America.

If you truly care about Israel and Palestine - make your own mind up - don't let someone else make it up for you.

In reply to your comment:
It doesnt matter. I sent you articles. I could show you accounts from people. I could even get you personal interviews from palestinians who will tell you what's really going on but in the end you'll just say its anti-palestinian Israeli propoganda.

So what could I do. People believe what they want even if the truth is shoved in their faces.

You cant truly want peace with a closed mind.

gwaan (Member Profile)

reln says...

I am looking into the Article on jordanian citizenship and the possibility that I received incorrect information. However, my point still stands. Israel is not guilty of apartheid as the country has a policy of not discriminating against muslims and christians as I mentioned in the quote from Barak.

In reply to your comment:
Article III(2) of Jordanian Law No. 6 of 1954 on Nationality (last amended 1987) states that: "Any person who, not being Jewish, possessed Palestinian nationality before 15 May 1948 and was a regular resident in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan between 20 December 1949 and 16 February 1954."

There is no provision in the Jordanian citizenship laws that discriminates against Jews - simply for being Jewish. Jordan was flooded by Palestinian refugees after they were forced off their own land by the Jewish army, Irgun and Haganah. This huge influx of refugees left Jordan with a difficult situation. It gave citizenship to non-Jews because otherwise they would have been stateless. However, Jewish people who possessed Palestinian citizenship before 1948 were not stateless and had citizenship of a new country - Israel.

In reply to your comment:
Ok I'm back from my mini vacation with my kids. Damn there are so many comments here and I dont have time to deal with all of them. I hate when these things come up when I'm on vacation.

Farhad, Joedirt and others, Palestinians are not Israeli citizens. If you want to argue that Israel is praticing apartheid then be prepared to criticise every arab country in the region. While Israel is not perfect it is a secular pluralistic society that accepts all religions. In contrast to many Arab countries that have declared Islam to be the state religion. Anyone in the world can become Israeli. Jordon has a law barring only Jews from becoming citizens and Jews and christians are descriminated against and are not provided with the same rights as muslims in every Arab country.

In 2002 the Israeli Supreme Court ruled that the government of Israel is not allowed to allocate land based on religion or race. Here is a quote from Israels Chief jusstice Aharon Barak "The principle of equality prohibts the state from distinquishing between its citizens on the basis of religion or nationality...The Jewish character of the state does not permit Israel to discriminate between its citizens"

Critisizing Israel is one thing, singling out Israel is anti-semitic


reln (Member Profile)

gwaan says...

Article III(2) of Jordanian Law No. 6 of 1954 on Nationality (last amended 1987) states that: "Any person who, not being Jewish, possessed Palestinian nationality before 15 May 1948 and was a regular resident in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan between 20 December 1949 and 16 February 1954."

There is no provision in the Jordanian citizenship laws that discriminates against Jews - simply for being Jewish. Jordan was flooded by Palestinian refugees after they were forced off their own land by the Jewish army, Irgun and Haganah. This huge influx of refugees left Jordan with a difficult situation. It gave citizenship to non-Jews because otherwise they would have been stateless. However, Jewish people who possessed Palestinian citizenship before 1948 were not stateless and had citizenship of a new country - Israel.

In reply to your comment:
Ok I'm back from my mini vacation with my kids. Damn there are so many comments here and I dont have time to deal with all of them. I hate when these things come up when I'm on vacation.

Farhad, Joedirt and others, Palestinians are not Israeli citizens. If you want to argue that Israel is praticing apartheid then be prepared to criticise every arab country in the region. While Israel is not perfect it is a secular pluralistic society that accepts all religions. In contrast to many Arab countries that have declared Islam to be the state religion. Anyone in the world can become Israeli. Jordon has a law barring only Jews from becoming citizens and Jews and christians are descriminated against and are not provided with the same rights as muslims in every Arab country.

In 2002 the Israeli Supreme Court ruled that the government of Israel is not allowed to allocate land based on religion or race. Here is a quote from Israels Chief jusstice Aharon Barak "The principle of equality prohibts the state from distinquishing between its citizens on the basis of religion or nationality...The Jewish character of the state does not permit Israel to discriminate between its citizens"

Critisizing Israel is one thing, singling out Israel is anti-semitic


Jimmy Carter on Israel's apartheid policy & the Israel Lobby

gwaan says...

Article III(2) of Jordanian Law No. 6 of 1954 on Nationality (last amended 1987) states that: "Any person who, not being Jewish, possessed Palestinian nationality before 15 May 1948 and was a regular resident in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan between 20 December 1949 and 16 February 1954."

There is no provision in the Jordanian citizenship laws that discriminates against Jews - simply for being Jewish. Jordan was flooded by Palestinian refugees after they were forced off their own land by the Jewish army, Irgun and Haganah. This huge influx of refugees left Jordan with a difficult situation. It gave citizenship to non-Jews because otherwise they would have been stateless. However, Jewish people who possessed Palestinian citizenship before 1948 were not stateless and had citizenship of a new country - Israel.

Palestinian hip hop - 'Meen Erhabe' (Who's the terrorist?)

gwaan says...

quantumushroom - your understanding of history is deeply flawed and based more on propoganda than facts. Unfortunately for a long time the myth of Israel's creation that you advocate was accepted as historical truth in Israel and the rest of the world.

Thankfully the age of myth is passing. Non-Zionist Jews such as Elmer Berger, Alfred Lilienthal, and Norman Finkelstein have already published well-documented refutations of the official version of Israel's history.

More importantly, the standard myths about Israel's creation have started to be challenged by Israeli Jews — a younger generation of historians with impeccable credentials as Zionists, patriotic Israelis and scholars.

For example, Benny Morris was among the first of the younger Israeli scholars to receive widespread notice when he refuted Ben-Gurion's long-accepted assertion that the Palestinian refugees of 1947-48 left Palestine at the instruction of Arab leaders. In 'The Birth of the Palestine Refugee Problem', published in 1988, Morris concluded that Arab leaders had not urged the local population to leave but that the exodus was mainly the result of attacks by the official Jewish army, the Haganah, and the Irgun, a terrorist organisation headed by Menachem Begin that had carried out assassinations and bombings against both the British and the Palestinians during the British mandate.

Similarly Ilan Pappé, associate professor of Middle East history at the University of Haifa, emphasizes in 'In The Making of the Arab-Israeli Conflict, 1947-51' the importance of Plan D in the creation of Israel. Plan Dalet, or Plan D, was adopted by the Israeli leadership to impliment their intention to expel the Palestinians from as much territory as possible and by whatever means necessary. From April 1, 1948 to the end of the war, Pappé writes, "Jewish operations were guided by the desire to occupy the greatest possible portion of Palestine." Pappé also writes that the Jewish army formally adopted the plan in early 1948 after Arabs protested a U.N. partition proposal that allocated to the Palestinians only 38 percent of mandatory Palestine although they made up more than 65 percent of the population.

Israel's apologists blame the Palestinians' misfortune on their opposition to partition, and especially to a Jewish state. If the Arabs chose to fight rather than share, then Israel would also fight—and take enough territory to insure its future security. But Pappé describes a more complex situation, in which blame is shared several ways - including a significant degree of blame for the Israeli leadership and armed forces who pursued what Pappé calls the "uprooting, expulsion, and pauperization of the Palestinians, with the clear purpose of taking firm control over Western Palestine."

Robert Capa Documentary - In Love and War (1:23 hr)

Farhad2000 says...

This is a PBS American Master Series documentary covering the life of Robert Capa.

Robert Capa (Budapest, October 22, 1913 – May 25, 1954) was possibly the most famous war photographer of the 20th century. He covered five different wars: the Spanish Civil War, the Second Sino-Japanese War, World War II across Europe, the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, and the First Indochina War. Capa documented the course of World War II in London, North Africa, Italy, the Battle of Normandy on Omaha Beach and the liberation of Paris.

From 1936 to 1939, he was in Spain, photographing the horrors the Spanish Civil War. In 1936, he became known across the globe for a photo he took on the Cordoba Front of a Loyalist Militiaman who had just been shot and was in the act of falling to his death. Because of his proximity to the victim and the timing of the capture, there was a long controversy about the authenticity of this photograph. Historians eventually succeeded in identifying the dead soldier as Federico Borrell García, from Alcoy (Valencia) and proved it authentic.

Previously also in this <ahref="http://www.videosift.com/video/Robert-Capa-Images-about-Spanish-Civil-War-1936-1939">sift

- More @ <ahref="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Capa">Wikipedia

Robert Capa photos from the Spanish Civil War 1936- 1939

Farhad2000 says...

Robert Capa (Budapest, October 22, 1913 – May 25, 1954) was possibly the most famous war photographer of the 20th century. He covered five different wars: the Spanish Civil War, the Second Sino-Japanese War, World War II across Europe, the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, and the First Indochina War. Capa documented the course of World War II in London, North Africa, Italy, the Battle of Normandy on Omaha Beach and the liberation of Paris.

From 1936 to 1939, he was in Spain, photographing the horrors the Spanish Civil War. In 1936, he became known across the globe for a photo he took on the Cordoba Front of a Loyalist Militiaman who had just been shot and was in the act of falling to his death. Because of his proximity to the victim and the timing of the capture, there was a long controversy about the authenticity of this photograph. Historians eventually succeeded in identifying the dead soldier as Federico Borrell García, from Alcoy (Valencia) and proved it authentic.

- More @ <ahref="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Capa">Wikipedia

Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen - Live

mjasonprickett says...

From the Four Yorshiremen W-Pedia article:

"The sketch was originally written for the British television comedy series At Last the 1948 Show, and was co-written by the show's four writer-performers: John Cleese, Graham Chapman, Tim Brooke-Taylor, and Marty Feldman. The original performance of the sketch by the four creators is one of the surviving sketches from the program and can be seen on the At Last the 1948 Show DVD ... As a result of the numerous Python performances, and the comparative obscurity of At Last The 1948 Show, the "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch is widely and incorrectly considered to be a Monty Python's Flying Circus sketch."

An honest look at oppression in Israel

zeth_rb says...

This is pretty biased by the language used and the way they describe the conflict.

Several Arab nations began the war in 1948 and Israel defended itself they make is sound like they both attacked each other at the same time. Also never use the comparison of American Indians to Palestinians because this is the ancient homeland of Jews also so that doesn't work. They make that comparison to make it sound like those of Israel don't belong when they have ancient roots.

After that I stopped watching being so historically slanted. Also I'm not saying that there isn't oppression but this video doesn't tell the truth either.

Nat King Cole Trio - 1948 - excerpt from "Killer Diller"

swampgirl says...

This is a 25 year old Nat King Cole!

"excerpt#1 from the movie "Killer Diller"(1948).
In this excerpt, see the great 25 years old Nat King Cole & his Trio. Nice and smooth, always cool as he never take a look at his fingers while playing and singing. Classy !
"Killer Diller",About 70 minutes of astonishing and extremely talented jazz musicians, tappers and vaudeville comedians playing live."
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