You don't support the troops by cutting off their resources and forcing their surrender.

The islamonazis will not be stopping their worldwide jihad if the US pulls out of Iraq.

Despite what Fluffilocks here says, a vast majority of the American people do not support ending the war with our defeat.

QM makes me laugh.

The Dems' Mitt Romney

"Fluffilocks." Nice work, QM.

quantumushroom: I am guessing from your comment, that the 'mushroom' part of your name refers to the mind altering variety, lol.

The resources for our troops have been systematically cut off or of inferior quality by this White House since the year after the war started.

And when a war is ended by the government that started it, the "troops" have not "surrendered" anything. They followed orders going there, and they would simply be following orders leaving.

The "islamonazis" as you call them have stepped up and increased their ranks, efforts and organization since this war began; so reason stands that the longer we remain, the more ammunition they have to recruit pissed off soldiers for their cause worldwide.

And I honestly don't even know wtf "Fluffilocks" refers to, I see nothing fluffy about his hair, but perhaps you have a crush, who knows.

And last but not least, try to READ or WATCH the seemingly endless polls, reports, articles, broadcasts, interviews etc etc (from Conservatives as well as Liberals) where a VAST percentage of the American people have called for this pointless war to end, and end now.

They are well aware the longer we stay there, the more in danger it puts us. There were virtually NO Al Qaeda in Iraq before we got there, now it is a breeding ground and increases more every day.

With todays technology, there are better ways to squash them, without our troops and Iraqi civilians being murdered daily.

Try something called research before you regurgitate rhetoric with little basis in reality.

Oh, and have a nice day

quantumushroom: I am guessing from your comment, that the 'mushroom' part of your name refers to the mind altering variety, lol.

>>> You must be new here. I'll speak slowly.

The resources for our troops have been systematically cut off or of inferior quality by this White House since the year after the war started.

>>> Even if this were true, shouldn't you be happy the money went to your many beloved social programs?

And when a war is ended by the government that started it, the "troops" have not "surrendered" anything. They followed orders going there, and they would simply be following orders leaving.

>>> Semantics. It would be a Congress-ordered surrender of the world's mightiest armed forces to a murderous, inferior ragtag gang that hides behind women and children. islamonazis have been starting sh;t for over 30 years. They were/are surprised we started kicking their asses.

The "islamonazis" as you call them have stepped up and increased their ranks, efforts and organization since this war began; so reason stands that the longer we remain, the more ammunition they have to recruit pissed off soldiers for their cause worldwide.

>>> Then the objective is clear: kill every last one of them. just like we would've done to the nazis and imperial Japanese had they not surrendered.

And I honestly don't even know wtf "Fluffilocks" refers to, I see nothing fluffy about his hair, but perhaps you have a crush, who knows.

>>> He must be an excellent trial lawyer to have you so fooled. Do you want a sneak preview of him as President? Send another 40% of your yearly income to him. That's his plan, and Hillary's and B. Hussein Obama's.

And last but not least, try to READ or WATCH the seemingly endless polls, reports, articles, broadcasts, interviews etc etc (from Conservatives as well as Liberals) where a VAST percentage of the American people have called for this pointless war to end, and end now.

>>> Sorry, the socialists have tried 3 times and failed 3 times. Not enough votes. What's pointless is how you so casually dismiss Iraqis' having a right to self-governance.

They are well aware the longer we stay there, the more in danger it puts us. There were virtually NO Al Qaeda in Iraq before we got there, now it is a breeding ground and increases more every day.

>>> Then the objective is STILL clear: kill every last one of them. Just like we would've done to the nazis and imperial Japanese had they not surrendered. BTW who's telling you we're losing? Al-jazeera?


With todays technology, there are better ways to squash them, without our troops and Iraqi civilians being murdered daily.

>>> There certainly is, but gwaan is against using nukes.

Try something called research before you regurgitate rhetoric with little basis in reality.

>>> Reality is fine where it is. Stop getting your "news" from those who own defeat and want their own country to lose.

>>> PS Nice day was had. I ate nachos.

QM is funny comparing World War 2 with the current quagmire in Iraq. Al Qaeda is not a formal army, but a terrorist organization. Thus it's impossible to kill every last one of them, because unlike the Nazi's and the Imperial Army of Japan they don't go wearing uniforms.

The American Army is the most powerful military force in the world, yet it's out doing the duty of the police officers, running 'candy' patrols to get on the side of the locals. Presenting clear targets to get hit by snipers and allowed enemies to work out where to place their IEDs. Almost all the work done now is pure infantry, because you can't use planes and tanks to attack an invisible mobile enemy.

Furthermore it's impossible to have a war against a tactic. QM prolly said the same thing of the evil Red menace that collapsed in on itself without the need of any military force to do so. Terrorism is a self deprecating strategy just like Communism, it will fail in and of itself because there is nothing good about it to sustain it unlike the virtues of freedom, justice and peace.

But he'll say anything as long as it's not him doing the fighting but the future generation of this nation. Because clearly he's disconnected with what kind of war is really thought listening to his radio pundits like it was a beacon from God.

Saying we aren't losing in Iraq is just stupid. You do know that US forces are stretched thin with thousands of troops doing 3rd tours already, tours that will probably be extended because they can't find enough people to go fight somewhere where they are not wanted.

People like you own defeat, because you keep going on the same strategy even if it doesn't work. That's not being strategic, that's being stubborn. But I bet that looks like 'leadership' in your eyes.

PS: Iraq faces the distinct possibility of collapse and fragmentation, UK foreign policy think tank Chatham House says.

Its report says the Iraqi government is now largely powerless and irrelevant in many parts of the country.

It warns there is not one war but many local civil wars, and urges a major change in US and British strategy, such as consulting Iraq's neighbours more.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6663935.stm

QM is funny comparing World War 2 with the current quagmire in Iraq. Al Qaeda is not a formal army, but a terrorist organization. Thus it's impossible to kill every last one of them, because unlike the Nazi's and the Imperial Army of Japan they don't go wearing uniforms.

>>> You misunderstand me. When I say "kill every last one of them," I mean whole cities. Let the people know if they don't cease hiding and harboring these scum, they'll be vaporized along with them. For example, fallujah should've been erased from the earth.

>>> Ultimately Iraqis will decide whether they want to live free. I believe they can and will take up the fight. If they choose the old ways, there's nothing we can do about that. If you are a Muslim who wants to see other Muslims enslaved, what does that make you?

>>> al qaeda is suffering heavy losses. Every time there's a firefight they lose. this isn't our vietnam. it's theirs. osama thought there'd be no response after 9-11. He was surprised, and continues to be surprised. The war is being fought in their sandbox, not here. They didn't expect that, either. If these scum are "winning" why do they beg Hillary for us to pullout?

>>> The red menace collapsed in the face of superior firepower and force, not because a bunch of hippies sang kumbaya. Random terrorism can only be contained, but when terrorism is a continuous, unanswered disruption of normal life, it must be addressed.

>>> We know which "religion" remains a primitve cult of murder and mayhem, don't we? Its barbaric followers are ready to die because they have made life worthless for themselves. They deserve destruction, but of no one else but themselves.

As the final joke, democrats will also not be pulling troops from Iraq, should one of their phonies like Fluffilocks or Her Thighness take the White House. You're still screwed.

I started typing but realized that this comment of yours is just too stupid to warrant a full reply from me. Nothing but hot chicken hawk air from someone who clearly never seen or experienced what warfare implies.