Alternate View of the Japanese Whaler Sea Shepard Collision

After seeing this view of the collision it does appear that the Japanese ship takes a collision course with the other ship.

However I find this hardly reprehensible because of each sides continued illegality.

On many of the episodes the Sea Shepard crew use stink bombs, and rope trailing tactics.

What I see here is Escalation.

One guy says, "You can't do that"
Other guy says, "Wanna make something of it?"
One guy says, "Why yes." And attempts to stop the other guy.
Other guy says, "Fuck you! Runs their ship over."

Soon it will be Japanese Whaler killed by Eco Terrorist, or Eco Activist shot by Japanese Whalers.
gwiz665says...

I dunno. The whaler definitely turns to get closer to the bat-boat, but I'm not sure they're intentionally ramming them; they could be trying to get them good with the water cannons and drift a bit too far, like the bat-boat drifts a little forward too in front of the whaler.

If the whalers are outside their own jurisdiction, the rest of us should step in, and if they go into a sovereign nation's waters then the matter is for that sovereign nation and its allies. Vigilantes should not be tolerated.

rougysays...

I have to disagree about the "both sides" thing, hombre.

The Japanese fishing industry is raping the ocean and needs to be stopped.

Whaling is probably the most critical aspect of their crimes, but not the only one.

NordlichReitersays...

>> ^rougy:
I have to disagree about the "both sides" thing, hombre.
The Japanese fishing industry is raping the ocean and needs to be stopped.
Whaling is probably the most critical aspect of their crimes, but not the only one.


No doubt, but I am not picking sides on their actions only the way they deal with it.

More often than not most of the conflicts I have solved on my own have been peaceable, but those conflicts didn't deal with monetary incentive.

When there is money to be gained and someone wants to stop it for the right reasons then people will get hurt. Right is also subjective and relative. Your version of right, and mine may be two completely different things. The latter sentence is just a figure of speech, I do think the Japanese are wrong, but I also think the Sea Sheppard crew are playing with fire.

I have some other opinions about monetary incentive, bodily harm, and the idea of swift pacification. But I fear repercussion for leaving a record of them here.

Lets just say, it's all fun and games until someone gets killed or maimed.

rougysays...

>> ^NordlichReiter:
>> ^rougy:
I have to disagree about the "both sides" thing, hombre.
The Japanese fishing industry is raping the ocean and needs to be stopped.
Whaling is probably the most critical aspect of their crimes, but not the only one.

No doubt, but I am not picking sides on their actions only the way they deal with it.
More often than not most of the conflicts I have solved on my own have been peaceable, but those conflicts didn't deal with monetary incentive.
When there is money to be gained and someone wants to stop it for the right reasons then people will get hurt. Right is also subjective and relative. Your version of right, and mine may be two completely different things. The latter sentence is just a figure of speech, I do think the Japanese are wrong, but I also think the Sea Sheppard crew are playing with fire.
I have some other opinions about monetary incentive, bodily harm, and the idea of swift pacification. But I fear repercussion for leaving a record of them here.
Lets just say, it's all fun and games until someone gets killed or maimed.


I see what you're saying, and even though one could argue that the point is relative, there is a real difference between right and wrong, and that supercedes whatever "money" has to say about it.

The over-fishing of our oceans has a real impact on all of us, not just the industries, and just because our governments are either too corrupt or too craven to do something about it--like, say, to write and enforce laws--that doesn't mean that somebody out there shouldn't at least try to do the right thing.


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