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woman destroys third wave feminism in 3 minutes

newtboy says...

Yes, but as I said, the majority of ACTIVE, self labeled "feminists" are the man hating brand today, and it's causing many to no longer self label themselves 'feminist' lest they be confused with this vocal majority.

You ignore the pervasive and destructive culture of rape of women by women in prison as well, or the pervasive and destructive culture of rape of men by women outside of prison. Yes, it happens, and is prosecuted far more rarely for various reasons, marginalizing those real victims....just like these "feminists" do, pretending all men are rapists, and all women are victims. It's simply not true, and it muddies and sullies any real point they might have about equality.
I think you know I was using hyperbole to make a point. I don't advocate anyone being raped in real life...not even mass rapists, but I do see that it might be the only way to show SOME people who have a total lack of empathy for people that don't hold their mindset.

"Master"? I thought they said "dean". Is that the same thing? EDIT: If so, the dean is not a guidance counselor/therapist any more than a judge is outside college. They have guidance counselors and therapists for those jobs.

The point being, you said white men don't need protection because they can just shrug it off or, to quote..."We can pretty much take it; we as a group already have most of the money, most of the privilege, and most of the presidents. We don't need a safe space." ...do you still say that seeing how he's NOT capable of just 'shrugging it off' and ignoring them, knowing that many have lost their careers for simply not agreeing with this brand of PC-Nazi?
EDIT: Would you say that to a man who's been raped by a woman? How about a white man raped by a woman of color? Not about the rape itself, but that they still have all the power and can 'pretty much take it/they don't need a 'safe space'', while implying these kids can't take it and do need a safe space?

Babymech said:

You don't need to link any angry man-hating feminist videos, and I don't need to link any angry woman-hating videos by people calling themselves humanists while threatening Anita Sarkeesian's life. We both know that they exist, and should ideally agree that this doesn't mean most self-labelled feminists hate men and most self-labelled humanists don't hate women. In fact, the vast majority of feminists and humanists don't even make angry videos on the internet.

Then you go into statistics on rape by men against women outside of prison and rape by men against in prison. This is a fucking horrible cultural phenomenon, and I discussed that. Above. You saw it? Yeah you did. But you wanted to make pretend rape threats instead, which fine, that's your deal, I guess. Nevertheless I can quote myself, again:

"if we concede that there's a pervasive and destructive culture of rape of women by men outside of prison, I will also concede that there's a pervasive and destructive culture of rape of men by men in prison. In fact, I'll go ahead and concede that anyway. Which is fucking awful, but doesn't mean that feminists are wrong for railing against the situation outside of prison."

Furthermore - I gave you some quotes specifically showing you good sources of arguments. Not examplesof things men should tolerate or be fine about it. Quite the opposite, in fact. Don't pretend that I said that men should be fine with rape, because I never did. I said that just as white people have the privilege to shrug off inflammatory comments by BLM activists while still respecting the underlying movement, men have the privilege to be able to shrug off some inflammatory comments by feminist activists while still respecting the underlying movement. I am a little surprised that you responded with "I should have some people rape the fuck out of you" but okay, that's how you roll. If you don't want to go back on that comment - we'll just let it stand on its own, I guess.

As for Nicholas Cristakis in the video you link to, there's a shitload to discuss there, but it's much more nuanced and weird than feminism vs whatever.

- There's the weirdness of the role of a 'Master' and what it has come to mean at Yale. While I think the students are being unbearably unbearable, it would be a little different if they did it to a teacher rather than a master, who has a sort of weird guidance counsellor / therapist role. I don't know why that role needs to exist, or what it means in practice normally.
- There's the absolute insufferable pampered entitled gall and rudeness of those students which makes my goddamn blood boil.
- There's the question of racism and cultural appropriation at halloween (which started the whole thing) which to me is both a silly and difficult debate; I'm absolutely disguested by blackface, but I don't really mind if some four-year old white or black or hispanic girl wants to dress up as Mulan.
- There's the issue of job security in the academic world and what kind of protection Christakis has from fallout over a perfectly reasonable letter his wife wrote...

Those are all interesting, I agree, but I don't see what the video has to do with this one.

6Months in Jail For Disagreeing With Feminists on on Twitter

Babymech says...

This is one of the reasons why I hate internet feuds - everybody involved seems to feel that it's not only ok but necessary to give their point of view in as one-sided, hyperbolic a way as possible. Like the Reddit CEO resignation, with some describing it as a clueless venture capitalist (Pao) ripping out the infrastructure heart of reddit until a popular uprising managed to stop her, and others calling it a white power assault on a woman of color (Pao).

The Techdirt article seems like a reasonable enough take on this situation; I'm not sure the friend testimony adds much. I am happy to learn of, and a little worried by, the Canadian vaguery of a peace bond. It sounds a lot like an asbo, which is also pretty icky.

Bruti79 said:

Here's a good article as well, it also confirms how terrible a person Christie Blatchford is.

http://canadalandshow.com/article/christie-blatchford-worst

WTF Cops?! - Two Racist Texts and a Lie

newtboy says...

Nope. Sorry. You're wrong.
I lived in East Palo Alto during the time it was the most dangerous (most murders per capita) city in the US (perhaps the world, I forget). At the time it was well over 90% 'black'. It didn't make me racist.
So I have 'walked in their shoes', except for the arresting and abusing people parts. I'll NEVER sing their tune.
I was raised by a beautiful woman of color, and have known hundreds of others that were good people, so I know full well all dark skinned people are not criminal low lives. I've also known many a white person that was a piece of shit low life scumbag that I avoid at all costs. These officers should walk a few miles in my shoes and sing a different tune, not the other way around.

bobknight33 said:

Whats the old adage?

Walk a mile in their shoes.

I'm Sure you would be singing a different tune.

Diesel Truck Driver Gets Harangued by Prius Driver

Djevel says...

Was this really about a Prius driver vs what looked like to be some sort of Avalanche driver or was it an over dramatic woman bitching about some dude in a big truck pulling up next to her and idling in what seemed to be a relatively empty portion of a parking lot?

Disregarding the "environmental" concerns between the two opposing vehicle factions, what the dude did is still considered rather rude. He could have parked anywhere, but chose to pull up next to the two parked Prius(i) and sit at idle. From the way the wife got all bent out of shape, the 'lanche couple seemed every bit as entitled as the woman. True colors were thrown around by both parties here.

1. He can park anywhere he chooses. Fine.
2. He can idle his truck as he pleases. Fine.
3. She could have chosen to pack up and move. Fine.

Ultimately, he had every right to be a douche and she had every right to return said douchiness back, but this could have easily been avoided by a little considering for "the next guy." Instead, it's like a giant troll video about fat, bitchy Prius drivers vs marketing/horse owners and their Detroit awesomesauce.

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