i just love how in any microsoft vs apple or IE vs Firefox or ANY 'big market share vs underdog' debate, there always seems to be more underdog fanboys than the 'big market share' fanboys.

just an observation.

Wha? You two are actually talking about THIS video? What a concept!

Going back to the Guardian piece - which is pure gold - I love this part:
"The ads are adapted from a near-identical American campaign - the only difference is the use of Mitchell and Webb. They are a logical choice in one sense (everyone likes them), but a curious choice in another, since they are best known for the television series Peep Show - probably the best sitcom of the past five years - in which Mitchell plays a repressed, neurotic underdog, and Webb plays a selfish, self-regarding poseur. So when you see the ads, you think, "PCs are a bit rubbish yet ultimately lovable, whereas Macs are just smug, preening tossers." In other words, it is a devastatingly accurate campaign."

zomg, the evil micro$haft put out a new os, it must be horrible, zomg mac, and linux ftw, ZOMG, ELLEVEN, you people are tools for loving the microshaft.... lollllzzzz....

/on an xp machine with 30 + days of up time
//runs all graphics software faster than a mac.... ahaha Rosetta... hahaha
///has a game market, yay for pc releases
////won't be installing vista for a while but seriously people fanboyism is lame.

so all snark aside, I doubt that i will convince a mac fanboy that microsoft is sweet, and i doubt you will convince me otherwise. That said 95% of the world runs on MS software so they must be doing something right, and apple must just be playing to the underdog mentality... am i right? am i right?


.... tired of anti vista meme on the internaughts, will wait a year to install it when all the drm crap is busted....

final side note, any haters harping on the DRM, if you own a new intel mac please see the TPM that came included on your motherboard, cross reference that with apples approach to DRM in iTunes, get back with me once leopard is out.

That was the only episode of season 2 I really liked, it felt like the character learned his place. Should have been the last episode, I reckon.

Aside from the cameos, the second season suffered cause he was now just a prick - as opposed to the underdog prick. Maybe if you were a sitcom officionardo, the whole 'laugh-track comedy show' joke would have been amusing past the first 5 mins.

This is from Wikipedia:


"Time of the Season" is a song by The Zombies, featured on the 1968 album Odessey and Oracle. The song was written by keyboard player Rod Argent and recorded at Abbey Road Studios in August 1967. Its breakthrough, however, did not occur before 1969, after the band had split up.

The song's characteristics include the unique voice of lead singer Colin Blunstone, the memorable bass riff, and Rod Argent's fast-paced psychedelic improvisation. The lyrics are an archetypical depiction of the emotions surrounding the Summer of Love. It is famous for its call-and-response verses "What's your name? (What's your name?)/Who's your daddy? (Who's your daddy?)/(Is he rich?) Is he rich like me?".

Pop culture occurrences

* The song is the source of the widespread provocative use of the phrase "Who's your daddy?", as popularized in the late 1980's and early 90's by syndicated radio shock jock "The Greaseman".
* This song was played in the background in an episode of The Simpsons, more specifically episode AABF02 ("D'oh-in In the Wind") in which Homer briefly becomes a hippie.
* Also used in the Friends episode "The One With the Flashback". The song plays in a dream sequence where Rachel fantasises about Chandler.
* It was also featured in the Thomas Vinterberg movie Dear Wendy from 2005.
* The song is played during a car ride scene in the 1990 film Awakenings starring Robert De Niro and Robin Williams. The song is also featured on the film's soundtrack.
* It featured in one scene of Shanghai Knights.
* It featured in one scene of NBC's miniseries "The '60's" (1999), albeit anachronistically, in a scene dated to late 1965.
* In 2006, C&C used the song in an ad campaign for Bulmers Original Cider.
* In Sprite's 2006 Sublymonal advertising campaign, a chorus of flowers with human faces perform an a capella version of the song's opening.
* During the 2006 playoffs, the New York Mets played it in Shea Stadium as the team took the field.

Cover versions

* On the 2005 Summer Tour, Dave Matthews Band included the song on their setlist. This version was consequently released on the CD and DVD Weekend on the Rocks in 2005.
* Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me - 8. Time of the Season - Big Blue Missile with Scott Weiland.
* Tanya Donelly has covered the song live touring Lovesongs for Underdogs.
* Kurt Elling covers the song in a duo with Cassandra Wilson on The Messenger
* Brooklyn hardcore hip hop rapper, Necro, sampled the song in his X-rated song "Who's Ya Daddy?".
* Ben Taylor, the son of James Taylor and Carly Simon, covered the song on his album "Famous Among the Barns."
* The Twilight Singers have covered the song live on at least one occasion

Agreed, I always pick the underdog, and can't stand Ali's brand of uncle tom, nor his affiliation by convenience, with the Nation of Islam, at the time at which he did it-

He's not looking to sincere, considering the political climate and media influence, when he made the move. He was used, chuvalo was an honest, formidable opponent, who would have won if the match was judged on integrity.

Cassius Clay sounds better, anyway-Also:

When one changes their name, dig a little, you'll more often thatn not find a fugitive from justice, or a confused soul.

oh and by the way, fellow sifter, it seems you already have an opinion of my motivation, temperment, personality type, and entilligent kwotient, so, completely wrong, GFY...wait, I don't mean to be so rude......yes I do!

Definitely watched Top Cat, farhad!

Also remember Underdog, Mr. Magoo and The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show, though Johnny Quest was my secret crush!

it's an underdog but what the heck, I love this one *nominate

UnderDog seems very hard to find... sorta remember watching it as a kid.

In 1960, handling the General Mills account as an account executive with the Dancer Fitzgerald Sample advertising agency in New York, W. Watts Biggers teamed with Chet Stover, Tread Covington and artist Joe Harris in the creation of television cartoon shows to sell breakfast cereals for General Mills. The shows introduced such characters as King Leonardo, Tennessee Tuxedo and Underdog. Biggers contributed both scripts and songs to the series. When Underdog became a success, Biggers and his partners left Dancer Fitzgerald Sample to form their own company, Total Television, with animation produced at Gamma Studios in Mexico. At the end of the decade, Total Television folded when General Mills dropped out as the sponsor in 1969.

Underdog was an anthropomorphic superhero parody of Superman and similar heroes with secret identities. The premise was that "humble and lovable" Shoeshine Boy, a cartoon dog, was in truth the superhero Underdog. George Irving narrated, and comedy actor Wally Cox provided the voices of both Underdog and Shoeshine Boy. When villains threatened, Shoeshine Boy ducked into a telephone booth where he transformed into the caped and costumed hero, destroying the booth in the process when his super powers were activated. Underdog almost always spoke in rhyme:

When Polly's in trouble, I am not slow,
So it's hip! hip! hip! and away I go.

Underdog's most frequent saying when he appeared was:

    There's no need to fear, Underdog is here.

The majority of episodes used a common template when Underdog first reveals himself. A crowd of people look up in the sky would say: "Look in the sky. It's a bird! It's a plane!" After which one a woman exclaims, "It's a frog!" Another onlooker responds "a frog?" To this, Underdog replies with these words:

    Not bird, not plane, not even frog, it's just little old me, (at this point, Underdog crashes into something) Underdog.

Underdog usually caused a lot of collateral damage. Whenever someone complained about the damage, Underdog replied:

    I am a hero who never fails.
    I cannot be bothered with these details.

The villains almost always managed to menace Sweet Polly Purebred (voiced by Norma McMillan), an anthropomorphic canine TV reporter as part of their nefarious schemes; she was a helpless damsel in distress most of the time, and had a habit of singing in a somewhat whining tone of voice, "Oh where, oh where has my Underdog gone?", which she sings to the tune of the song "Oh Where Has My Little Dog Gone" when in jeopardy. Recurring villains included Simon Bar Sinister, a mad scientist with a voice reminiscent of Lionel Barrymore, his assistant Cad and Riff Raff, an anthropomorphic wolf gangster based on the noted actor George Raft. Other villains include The Electric (Slippery) Eel, Battyman, and Overcat.

Unlike Superman, Underdog's super powers are not a natural part of his physical makeup. When he is not Underdog, he is incognito as a shoeshine boy and hurriedly dresses in a phone booth like Superman when trouble calls; he must take an "Underdog Super Energy Vitamin Pill" to ignite his powers (like Mister Terrific). He keeps one of these pills inside a special ring he wears at all times. Several episodes show Underdog losing the ring and being powerless, since he must take another pill as his super powers begin to fail. When the series was syndicated in the 1980s and 1990s, the scenes of him taking his energy pill were edited out. Animation fans lambast this as a form of political correctness, as they believe the scenes were removed in order to prevent any glorification of drug use

nerdhist, you gotta watch this. It's a real battle between brains and brawn. It's more than a documentary of a democratic political campaign. It's called _street fight_ and a gifted candidate goes against a sack of shit old boy network. It's a good show even if you don't root for the underdog.
http://www.marshallcurry.com/streetfight.html

Never underestimate the power of the underdog. ;-)

I have learned so much about what an audience wants by watching this group. Some sifts that I think will become legendary at VS never escape the queue...and others that I feel are so-so get to the top.

Conclusion: (in no particular order) Kittens, explosions, politics, science, and practical jokes involving farts and/or monkeys....

one can always root for the underdog .... right??