"If you tried watching the video again you might notice that she doesn't make an assertion that Chlorpropham causes cancer."
Not only did she assert that it causes cancer, she asserts that it is causing cancer in humans. "With all the chemicals, no wonder so many people are getting diagnosed with cancer".

"She says that there have been studies that have shown animals to grow tumors after prolonged exposure to the chemical."
Which is false. There has been one study that showed that it initiated skin cancer in mice, but a later study did not confirm those findings.

"It is an easy inference to make that it probably isn't good for other mammals either."
But that's not what she said and has nothing to do with her experiment.

"Her assertion is that too many chemical additives in general in our food supply may have a factor in increased cancer diagnosis in general."
No, her assertion is that this chemical, along with other unnamed chemicals, is causing cancer in humans. Her experiment does not support that for either the unnamed chemicals or chlorpropham. Her experiment dealt only with growth rates for one vegetable that had been treated with one specific growth inhibitor.

"Besides, her experiment isn't about cancer."
That's my point. She did an experiment involving potato growth and her conclusion was that a variety of unnamed chemicals cause cancer. Bad science. Again, an adult's fault, not hers.

If you tried watching the video again you might notice that she doesn't make an assertion that Chlorpropham causes cancer. She says that there have been studies that have shown animals to grow tumors after prolonged exposure to the chemical.

What I quoted was only a portion of the website about chlorpropham (Bud Nip) toxicity. If you were not too lazy to click on the link I provided in my comment above you would have found "Carcinogenic Effects: Long-term exposure to chlorpropham may cause tumors (2). In one experiment chlorpropham initiated skin cancer in mice" (/PMEP) in the same report. The Pesticide Management Education Program website does suggest that more studies should be done to link chlorpropham exposure to cancer, but they are pretty clear that it has toxic effects on laboratory animals. It is an easy inference to make that it probably isn't good for other mammals either.

What the girl says after is: "With all of the chemicals it's no wonder so many people age getting diagnosed with cancer." Her assertion is that too many chemical additives in general in our food supply may have a factor in increased cancer diagnosis in general.



Besides, her experiment isn't about cancer. It is about the results of her attempt to grow sprouts from root vegetables. The information she provides about toxicity of chlorpropham is simply the result of using a google search to find out what else Bud Nip does besides inhibiting plant growth.

>> ^DrewNumberTwo:

(This is about the adults guiding her, not the girl...)Even if what she said is true, it has nothing to do with what she was testing so it's bad science. If she doesn't cite her source, then she's not properly reporting what she found. What you quoted above still doesn't support her assertion that the additive can cause cancer in animals, and that an unnamed number of chemicals, presumably added to food, cause cancer in humans.

From wikipedia:

Gingrich has been married three times. In 1962, he married Jackie Battley, his former high school geometry teacher, when he was 19 years old and she was 26.[105][106] In the spring of 1980, Gingrich left Battley after having an affair with Marianne Ginther.[107][108] Battley told the Washington Post in 1984, "He can say that we had been talking about [a divorce] for 10 years, but the truth is that it came as a complete surprise ... He's a great wordsmith ... He walked out in the spring of 1980 and I returned to Georgia. By September, I went into the hospital for my third surgery. The two girls came to see me, and said Daddy is downstairs and could he come up? When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from the surgery ..." [109] Gingrich has disputed that account.[88] In 2011, their daughter, Jackie Gingrich Cushman, said that it was her mother who requested the divorce, that it happened prior to the hospital stay (which was for the removal of a benign tumor, not cancer), and that Gingrich's visit was for the purpose of bringing the couple's children to see their mother, not to discuss the divorce.[110]

Gingrich has two daughters from his first marriage. Kathy Gingrich Lubbers is president of Gingrich Communications,[111] and Jackie Gingrich Cushman is an author, whose books include 5 Principles for a Successful Life, co-authored with Newt Gingrich.[112]

Six months after the divorce from Battley was final, Gingrich wed Marianne Ginther in 1981.[113][114][115][116]

In the mid-1990s, Gingrich began an affair with House of Representatives staffer Callista Bisek, who is 23 years his junior. They continued their affair during the Lewinsky scandal, when Gingrich became a leader of the Republican investigation of President Clinton for perjury and obstruction of justice in connection with his alleged affairs.[117] In 2000, Gingrich married Bisek shortly after his divorce from second wife Ginther. He and Callista currently live in McLean, Virginia.[118]

In a 2011 interview with David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network Gingrich addressed his past infidelities by saying, "There's no question at times in my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate."[115][116]

Staggering that this serial adulterer and hypocrite of the first degree is STILL doing the "Return to Family Values" schtick and equating religion with morality.

>> ^BoneRemake:
>> ^shinyblurry:
Sorry, it isn't bigotry. I just don't see homosexuals are being seperate or different than anyone else, because they're not. They're sinners, and what they do is sin. It doesn't make them special, it actually makes them quite common. If someone is going to lead a sinful lifestyle, no one should support it.
God gave us rules to live by and one of them is to refrain from homosexual relations. It's only recently that earth has become so corrupt and fallen so far that anyone would actually consider giving these sodomites special status in society. if it wasn't so sad it would be amusing.

Every day you break a commandment or something set right by god. Who the fuck are YOU to say anything? you bible thumping preacher wannabes annoy me because you come on sites and throw your views at people when you themselves are breaking them, there is no way a " true " christian can live in this day and age without breaking something in the bible. You religious zealots are so full of your own judgmental shit it would surprise you to smell your underpants. But god loves you, so sleep well.


God loves everyone, first of all. Second, I have as much right to say what I did as you did what you said to me. You're entitled to your malformed, tumor-swollen opinion. Mine happens to have biblical justification.


Second, if you knew anything, which you obviously don't, you'd know that no Christian is laboring under the delusion that they're perfect. That's why this is called a fallen creation, because it isn't perfect. The only thing perfect was the life death and resurrection of our Lord and Savior. He gives us justification, apart from that we have none and neither does anyone else.

You're right about one thing in a roundabout way, which is that this is all very pearls before swine. In the context of a bunch of googly eyed mouth breathers saying God doesn't exist, where Satans special little helpers file in to preach their faith, not much is going to come out of this which is positive. So, I'll just let the topic die. Enjoy your homo-comedy.

I think he meant "...you are another tumor on the organism that makes politics worse..."
Maybe.>> ^petpeeved:

I love Weiner but his closing remark almost caused me to have an aneurysm: "...you are an important part of the organism that makes politics work..."
Speechless.

Cannabinoids Curb Brain Tumor Growth, First-Ever Patient Trial Shows
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6947

Pot Compound May Offer Non-Toxic Alternative To Chemotherapy
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7433

Tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits lung cancer as well as metastasis
http://www.nature.com/onc/journal/v27/n3/abs/1210641a.html

Inhibition of skin tumor growth by activation of cannabinoid receptors
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/16116/version/1

lol, QM, if you really think those various media outlets are all the same, you really do have some sort of brain tumor.. comparing NPR and " Most "rebellious" musical acts and assorted "artists"" isn't really valid... you are a blatant troll, but congrats for all the attention you're getting. BTW, NPR is the most balanced news network around. My tax dollars pay for your right to free speech too jackhole, so shut up about friggin Sesame Street and Mr Rodgers.

>> kceaton1:

Seriously, QM, I hate to make a personal hit, but in this case (as your taking a shot at a lot of us) maybe you should get checked out for a mental illness or brain tumor.

>>> Are you joking? The left specializes in ad hominem attacks! You're HOME!
And no, I didn't say anything against anyone at this sift, but I do see now that the association of the word 'dunces' was too far away from 'media outlet' and so could be misinterpreted.

>>> To reiterate, the aforementioned "dunces" in question are the libmedia networks.


I'm actually very serious. If you don't have a medical issue and you're not trolling (I usually think you're trolling) you might want to consider, for one month, using only pure logic and facts that can be attained only directly or through scientific study (look at who does the study--if the world uses them as a source you're OK to use them--if it comes from a Christian College, I would go ahead and not use that) see if your viewpoint changes at all.

>>> I knew I was dealing with no one but supremely logical, liberal Mr. Spocks when someone mentioned hating the woman based on the spelling of her name (fortunately still legal according to Big Brother Hate Crime Law Series J11013).

>>> The tragedy is that YOU might be serious. A troll, much like the libmedia, hits and runs long before the ambulance of facts and logic arrives. I'm more than ready to defend my POVs, but since I am not paid by VS I do so at my leisure.

>>> Do you really think insulting the world's 2 billion Christians (I am not one, but there's worse associations out there than Jesus) adds gravitas to your arguments?

If you REALLY want to make sure you're not getting brainwashed throw yourself into the opposite stream of traffic mentally for about the same time; again using what you consider logically the best choice. If you change you're mind AT ALL (as in, "I have doubts on this subject that was a core belief") you should seriously consider that you're looking out at the world, with a window that's orange and has a screen in front of it.

>>> Not only am I huge fan of facts and logic, I'm really big on RESULTS. Does this current rash of leftist "leadership" (2006 - 2010 Congress, 2008 to present White House) have any positive results to share? If so, they were not communicated properly before November of last year.

>>> Show me a nation--any nation throughout history--that's taxed itself into prosperity, especially by the tactics of a centralized government courting a planned economy, pitting one class against another and cannibalizing the productive members of society to get votes from the other kind. Show me a Euro-Union that isn't going bankrupt country by country.

>>> I notice that no one at the sift ever disses, say, MS-DNC over CNN, and the reason for this is both are parroting each other and the taxocrat party line. Don't let something as little as perceived rudeness on M. Kelly's part lead you to believe otherwise.

>>> Do you really want to argue about which side is spoiled and drowning in media groupthink? Assuming "The Right" has Fox (which I don't watch anyway) here's a partial list of the left-leaning propaganda machine, which did the world a favor by 'coming out' in 2008 and openly joining Obama's election (and now reelection) campaign.

THE (partial) LIST

* Media Matters (feeds most of these "credible" media their talking points)
* The old Big 3 networks: ABC, MS-DNC, CBS
* CNN
* Comedy central (talk about nightly propaganda!)
* Air America radio (bankrupt)
* NPR - (MY tax dollars pushing your agenda---at least Glenn Beck does his thing on his OWN dime)
* Most newspapers besides the WSJ
* Magazine fluff like TIME and Newsweak
* HuffPo
* Hollywood's "product"
* Most of the crap on tv
* Most "rebellious" musical acts and assorted "artists"

Of course, I could be imagining things. It's not like a singer slipped in a message to OBAMA during the Superbowl half-time show.

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The left values equality more than truth, and views life as rich versus poor instead of right versus wrong. This is why leftist policies fail to create jobs, wealth, security, confidence and yes, SUCCESS.

The truth (aka "what works") is more important than our self-esteem and feelings.

Seriously, QM, I hate to make a personal hit, but in this case (as your taking a shot at a lot of us) maybe you should get checked out for a mental illness or brain tumor. I'm actually very serious. If you don't have a medical issue and you're not trolling (I usually think you're trolling) you might want to consider, for one month, using only pure logic and facts that can be attained only directly or through scientific study (look at who does the study--if the world uses them as a source you're OK to use them--if it comes from a Christian College, I would go ahead and not use that) see if your viewpoint changes at all.

If you REALLY want to make sure you're not getting brainwashed throw yourself into the opposite stream of traffic mentally for about the same time; again using what you consider logically the best choice. If you change you're mind AT ALL (as in, "I have doubts on this subject that was a core belief") you should seriously consider that you're looking out at the world, with a window that's orange and has a screen in front of it.

/Otherwise, keep trolling and I'll keep you on ignore...

>> ^quantumushroom:

FOX is the only media outlet keeping all the sycophantic, State-Fed, Taxocrat Party water-carrying, Obama Reelection Campaigning dunces from being a monopoly.
So sorry if the truth hurts.


>> ^brycewi19:

>> ^quantumushroom:
FOX is the only media outlet keeping all the sycophantic, State-Fed, Taxocrat Party water-carrying, Obama Reelection Campaigning dunces from being a monopoly.
So sorry if the truth hurts.

You can have opinions, but you can't have that one.


>> ^Lodurr:

>> ^quantumushroom:
FOX is the only media outlet keeping all the sycophantic, State-Fed, Taxocrat Party water-carrying, Obama Reelection Campaigning dunces from being a monopoly.
So sorry if the truth hurts.

It really sounds like you've been brainwashed when you vomit angry words like that. Your conservative brainwashing source is basically traumatizing you and then blaming that trauma on whoever they want, in this case liberals. In fact, talk about "liberals" and the evil that they commit and intend to commit dominates every piece of conservative media I encounter these days.
You're at that point where there are so many facts against your side right in front of you that you completely ignore them and are only invigorated to keep your perspective. Step back from the us vs. them mentality for a moment, and realize that you can't lose anything by changing your mind.

This brought back some bad memories. I watched my mom go thru something similar just before having a seizure due to a brain tumor that we were unaware of. It is certainly not comedy.>> ^kymbos:

Amazing how differently you come at this when you hear she had a possible stroke before you watch the video. Actually, after hearing that news I couldn't even bring myself to watch the video. My mum had a stroke and her speech was affected, her typing - and she didn't know she'd had it. It was pretty terrifying.
Downer that it is for those of you wanting the comedy tag, I think that's why it's not comedy for some of us.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Louis CK, puppy, dog, crying, tumor, good, end well' to 'Louis CK, puppy, dog, crying, tumor, good, end well, round head, not doing anything' - edited by calvados

I've seen the same situation many times. The KKK member who has a handicapped child. The TeaBagger farmer who just lost his house in a flood. The hard working construction worker who hurts his back. The corporate exec who's child's brain tumor isn't covered by the insurance plan. The parent whose child joins the military and gets killed or injured (eg. Pat Tillman, Casey Sheehan). Sadly the human animal just doesn't get it until it happens to themselves.

It's like this little girl. When we see a video of her we all smile and think how cute she is, but do you know how many kids just like her have been killed in Iraq in the last 20 years. THOUSANDS! An for the most part no one gives a shit. Cause it didn't effect them and they can't empathize. Makes me pissed and sad.

>> ^ForgedReality:

Clearly, honestly is NOT the always the best policy. They've been telling that lie for centuries. The fact that that in itself is a lie should tell you something.
The next time I hear someone utter that phrase, I'm going to go off on a tirade like this to prove a point. Then we'll see which one of us is more honest, shan't we?


Indeed. When a 6 year old girl asks, "Do you like my drawing for a whale?", well honesty is the best policy, so I should obviously reply, "No, I do not like it. It looks nothing like a whale. It looks like a big scribbly blue scrotum with a tumor."

He's doing a debate in LA along side Sam Harris in Feb. I'm so impressed that he's keeping up the public regiment. My dad had a malignant brain tumor and it eventually rendered him unable to do most anything. Thank you for continuing to share yourself with others, Hitch, when you're well within your rights to stop.

In reply to this comment by Offsajdh:
I cannot fathom the sheer willpower and mental strength it would take to soldier on through debates and interviews in the same condition, let alone in the same manner as Hitchens does. I gotta stop whining when getting outta bed in the morning and man up to the example Hitchens has set.

Do note that this was broadcast in august 2010, so he's been dealing with it for a while.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Douglas#Personal_life

It was announced on August 16, 2010, that Douglas was suffering from throat cancer and will undergo chemotherapy and radiation treatment.[23] On August 31, 2010 Douglas appeared on Late Show with David Letterman[24] and confirmed that the cancer was at an advanced stage IV.[25] In November 2010, Douglas was put on a special weight gain diet by his doctors due to the excessive weight loss leaving him weak.[26] On January 11, 2011, he said in an interview that his tumor has gone. He also admitted that the illness and aggressive treatment had caused him to lose 32 lbs in weight.[27] He will have to have monthly screenings because there is a very high chance that the cancer could return over the course of the next two to three years.[28] Although Douglas has described the cancer as throat cancer, many doctors believe he was actually diagnosed with oropharyngeal cancer.[29]