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Bill Maher - Punching Nazis

MilkmanDan says...

Very analogous to Westboro Baptist "church" stooges. They (ab)use their constitutionally protected rights to free speech to say the most offensive and provocative crap that they can come up with, specifically with the intention to incite a (violent) reaction against them. Why? Because pretty much the entire Phelps family are lawyers, and they know that they can generally win any assault case that they can provoke people into. All that hate they spew boils down to a stupid, petty moneymaking scam.

Is the Seattle Nazi that devious and cunning? I doubt it. Probably just a crazy / fucked up guy, as Maher said. That doesn't excuse his fuckwittery, but it does reinforce Maher's argument that punching the guy is NOT the best response.

Morello is awesome, with RATM and Audioslave, and now Prophets of Rage, etc. But he's dead wrong on this issue, and comes across as a bit of an "internet tough guy". Outside of just ignoring them, I kinda think the only way to one-up these people is to know the law, what constitutes assault etc., and essentially beat them at their own game (ie. provoke them into doing something to you). On the other hand, there's something to be said for using using passive-aggressive snark to mock / humiliate them in a nonviolent way, ala the Foo Fighters:

Lt Gen Silveria Addresses Racism Incident at USAFA School

C-note says...

Tough words from a man who controls a lot of guns. Guess it's time for a lot of far-right, alt-right, white nationalist and racists to packup their fake patriotism. This general sounds serious when he says "Get Out!"

Lawn Bubble

Stormsinger says...

I had to think back a bit...it's been a few decades since I spent any time on a lawn of zoysia. But once I thought a bit more carefully, it does seem that zoysia changes it's texture with the season. Over the winter (and dry times) it gets tough and spiky, like walking on a bed of nails. But during the (limited) times when it's fresh and green, it is pretty soft. I think you can tell which season sticks in my memory.

00Scud00 said:

On the bubble or on the zoysia? Based on my limited reading zoysia is really soft.

Bill Maher - Penn Jillette on Libertarianism

dannym3141 says...

"That's what mature people would do.."

For some reason, in my head all i can see is a posh woman sat in one of Titanic's lifeboats, which is tipping side to side as desperate, freezing people try to climb in. "If they tip the lifeboat over we'll all die, why can't they be more mature about it?"

Trump is shit for the US and for the world, but it's a bit of an own goal to blame people who Hillary Clinton & her political supporters couldn't convince that either a) the US would be significantly better off with her over Trump for it to matter or b) they individually would benefit from what she had to offer. They don't owe you votes, you have to win their support by making them believe they'll be better off.

This is more of the same shit that we've been shoveled for years - neoliberalism is the ONLY way. Compromise, grow up, be mature, *agree with us or you're to blame for what happens*. What's the end game of a political system where the blame for the result goes to anyone who didn't vote for the two largest parties?

Look, the centre can't energise people because they don't have anything hopeful or interesting to offer. If you want a message that carries well, if you want the energy and positivity to overcome trump then it HAS to come from the left. Anti-fascist protests have attracted so many thousands of people from a position of love & togetherness, largely organised by socialist women. See Kristian Hernandez for example.

You can't get people out and marching and waving signs saying "We Want More Austerity" or "We Want Tough Talk On Minimum Wage But No Real Action" - you need a message and a hope that will inspire kids from universities to come out in droves and have those difficult conversations with friends, strangers, and their families. Have them out in the streets with music & activity spreading a positive message and showing people that there IS strength and love in a community that comes together. You need something that will inspire an entire population of forgotten black communities. YOU FIGHT HATE WITH LOVE, NOT THE COMPROMISE OF THE CENTRE. You know what the compromise of the centre gets you? It gets you a man who thinks adding "on many sides, on many sides" is how you present a balanced statement, and an audience who agrees.

The chattering classes like Maher have done very well for a very long time out of neoliberalism. He's been on the TV for years talking about the results of that ideology, earning a good livelihood off it. He has a very nice suit, looks healthy and happy, probably a nice house, looking forward to pension and good healthcare. He's calling people who have sickness and exhaustion, living in rented apartments in rough areas, looking forward to the sweet release of death, immature.

So pardon me if i say fuck off Maher; stop asking people with nothing to keep compromising your way. If you want their support, compromise their way. And if you want their energy and fire, you're going to have to share control of the reins because talk is cheap. Give them a Bernie.

Sorry for the rant.

This is what a coward looks like

Fairbs says...

I think he's the same guy that was yelling the n word and saying how Jews are the enemy; I almost get the feeling he's reconsidering his position after getting beat down by the real world; much easier to hate and act like a tough guy from behind a keyboard

spawnflagger said:

Is this the same douche from the Vice video?
I'm sure he'll claim he's not crying, but rather he was just pepper sprayed by communists.

Trump Doubles Down on North Korea Threats: A Closer Look

The "Instant Legolas" bow demonstration

Amy McGrath's congressional campaign announcement

cloudballoon says...

Now this here is a woman I can tell her to make a sandwich... and I'll happily shove said sandwich up her political opponent's face.

Joking aside, wow, she's a true fighter, and her resiliency is genuinely shown throughout her life/message ... unlike those stupid "look at me I can pull the trigger, so I'm a helluva tough son of a gun, vote for Meeeeeeeeeee!" douchebag ads.

I'd vote for her if I could... But, but.... the problem with this ad is still too vague on issues. Understand that you can only do so much in a 2:00 ad, it's a great start but Democrats really do need fighters to get the message (policies) out.

79 year-old Rosemary Smith takes The Ultimate Test Drive

oritteropo says...

Race Aces In Tough Rally (1966)


eric3579 said:

Yesterday when i first watched this i looked to see if i could find any videos on her racing career. Needless to say i was disappointed. If anyone does know of any videos on Rosemary Smiths racing career please tell.

Nigerian Slap Fight

dannym3141 says...

I'm not generally into needless violence, but they both looked so damned happy and were clearly both willing to take a chance of being knocked out. The whole scene is so pressureless and so full of smiling, relaxed people, that none of this even seemed violent to me.

There's a certain type of person, often they'll be MMA practitioners, who just don't care about being knocked out, at all. Getting put to sleep is only a problem to them if you shit your pants while you're out. And from what i understand, it's seen as somehow a little unfair to mock someone for it, unless they were acting like a tough guy beforehand.

Pres. Trump Tweets Vid of Himself Physically Attacking CNN

MilkmanDan says...

Jesus Christ. The only thing more pathetic than a man-baby president posting a video like this to twitter like some 12 year old internet tough guy is the ensuing media reaction to it:
He's inciting violence against reporters!
It seems like a physical threat!


Much ado about {makes jerk-off motion}.

Straight is the new gay - Steve Hughes

Man hit by bus, acts as if nothing happened

newtboy says...

That's one tough s.o.b.
Not sleet nor hail nor speeding bus will deter him from his appointed beer time.
Don't want to meet him in a dark alley, that's for sure.

Bear Cubs Climb Fence

ant says...

Ha that bear cub failed! YouTube video's description said "... One cub had a tough time going over -- and at last found a way under the fence..."



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