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You are a woman in handcuffs? Let me punch and kick you!

lucky760 says...

At the arc of his wind-up right before he swings down that his fingers are extended up and out. Definitely a slap.

Still, my only point was is the marketing of this video as if a helpless woman is being savagely assaulted.

She kicked him and he slapped her.

Again, not a justified action by the cop, but also not a gang of violent, blood-thirsty cops pounding the shit out of a poor little innocent woman (which is more what I was expecting coming in here).

A title more to my liking would be along the lines of "Cop Overreacts to Minor Assault from Handcuffed Suspect." or "Hey, Stupid. Don't Kick Cops."

newtboy said:

To be fair, I looked closely. That totally looked like a closed fist to me, and a full force punch to the face, not a slap....followed by a forceful kick that missed.
Also, yes she kicked AT him, but did not appear to connect. I get she's idiotic to provoke the easily provoked thugs in blue. She obviously hasn't been paying attention to how they (over)react lately, and really she got off easy compared to many.

A month of paid vacation does not seem to be a reasonable 'punishment' for not only the battery, but also the falsifying a police report....unless it's at club fed.

a knife blade heated by an induction coil

A Very Smart Bird - Thirsty crow comes to humans for help.

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Coca Cola vs Coca Cola Zero - Sugar Test

ChaosEngine says...

The taste is subjective, but the sweeteners are in no way "far worse than sugar".

Coke Zero uses aspartame, and in and of itself, there's nothing wrong with aspartame. There are a bunch of bullshit conspiracy theories around it, but none of them have any solid science behind them.

That said, I don't drink any kind of soft drink anymore. If I'm thirsty, I drink water.

Soft drinks are just empty calories and frankly, if I want a tasty drink, I'll have beer, whiskey or wine. More enjoyable and at least that way I know what I'm drinking is bad for me

Sagemind said:

Yes, but Coke Zero tastes disgusting and what they use for sweeteners is far worse for you than sugar!

Mike Tyson vs. Canadian Reporter

MrFisk says...

"You're a talker. Listening to talkers makes me thirsty. And hungry." -- Sandor Clegane

First of all, don't tell me what we're discussing: "What we are discussing is the value of mike tyson's endorsement ... ," especially if we're not discussing the same thing.

I criticized the broadcaster -- others criticized Mike Tyson.

In fact, my primary argument was against the broadcaster, and my secondary argument is on the validity of Tyson's rape conviction (I used a different thread and video for that one). Notice the difference?

I criticized the broadcaster's sloppy attempt to predict the future (which is unethical because it's impossible, to say the least) and his lack of sources thereof. What was ridiculous on my part, was my original assumption that future sources could possibly exist!

And I didn't respond to all of your quips because they're not all worthy of response. In your introduction you stated, "I'm utterly unconvinced by your assertion that the public did not think his rape conviction devalued his endorsement. <--[I'm criticizing the broadcaster, you're criticizing your assumption of what I think of Tyson.] Why do you think that? <--[Begs the question.] Because you did? <--[False accusation.] As soon as i understood the story (there's no description) my immediate reaction was, "well if an ear biting rapist ex-boxer endorses you...."
How am I supposed to respond to this? I was originally offended by the broadcaster's lack of professionalism regarding his sources, but this thread forced me acknowledge his lack of logic and ability to predict the future. How cool is that?

"Think I'll take two chickens."

dannym3141 said:

"Some people would say" -- does not necessarily indicate future tense.
I would say (see?) it is often used to more politely present a point.
Other people would say (again..) that he is referring to what people might say to tyson if they were present in the interview, and so he is saying what they would say if they were present.

For all any of us knows, two or three people asked him to ask the question and he's completely accurate and right. As i already stated, i'm interested in that question even if you aren't, so he's completely right in his statement, other people WOULD say that. Me - and probably others. Though you don't address any of that in your reply.

I don't understand what you mean in your first paragraph about the public - i never said that you had interviewed them nor that you should (??). What we are discussing is the value of mike tyson's endorsement, and an endorsement is for the listeners, the public. So what i am referring to is the viewing public of a TV show on which mike tyson has appeared and offered his personal endorsement to.

In fact, you specifically said that he has a duty of care to his audience to explain his sources, so it seemed to me that your primary concern was the public's full understanding of the interview... is that not the case? I think you may have contradicted yourself here - i asked you what that duty of care was, and that's a hard question to answer without referring to the "public thought". Perhaps that's why you didn't bother addressing it in your reply. I'm doing my best to keep the discussion going, but i don't understand what this paragraph refers to or what it means.

Finally the legal battle that you linked to me. As i already reminded you, we are not his judges and it is not a courtroom, so it is utterly irrelevant to the case. Furthermore, the world is bigger than one country and this is an international website with a plethora of opinions. In exchange i'd like you to read the introductory paragraph about protection of sources which finishes with several particular comments about the united states, and one addressed directly about the US - the land of the free and home of the exiled whistle-blowers. Please remember as you read that this refers to a legal setting, and really has nothing to do with the example in this video about which you incorrectly assert that he has a duty to expose his sources. Which you still have not made clear. However i wanted to make clear that i think protection of sources is imperative to combating corruption which is absolutely rife in this day and age of illegal wars, illegal detention, worldwide spying and tracking of individuals by the NSA and Great Britain's intelligence agencies, expenses scandals, etc.

You haven't answered even half of the questions i posed to you in my first comment, i'm all ears. Or eyes. Whatever.

ChaosEngine (Member Profile)

lucky760 says...

Side note: I've just realized you're in Australia, and a very salient point worth mentioning is that you're probably thinking about how awful and "uncivilized" we are in America because you're comparing our police to yours, considering how much better your cops would be in a situation like this and how a fellow Australian criminal wouldn't deserve what these cops did.

It's possible you're just comparing our blood-thirsty cops to your more sensible, contemplative cops, but that you're forgetting to compare our blood-thirsty, cold-blooded, murderous cop-killer criminals with your more sensible, reasonable criminals. The cops here do things Australian cops might not do, but it may be because your cops don't have to.

Yes, it might help as it has in places like Australia for us to outlaw guns, however that won't ever happen because it's part of the inextricable bedrock used to found this great nation, so we have to do the best we can with what we have.

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U.N: One child killed every hour in Gaza

newtboy says...

First you have to let me come and take your neighbors house, and 2/3 of your property, and the front 1/4 of your house, and I get to shoot your dog and your father in law because he complained I shot the dog. I'm building a 20 foot wall so I can throw bombs at you from the 3rd floor balcony of my pilfered home, while your fireworks can almost never get over the wall. If I see you with anything or anyone in your leftover yard I don't approve of, I'll take care of it with a grenade, then me and my large well armed friends will be over to check your home for more. If you don't run away before we get there, we'll have to shoot you for our protection, and the rest of your family so they don't retaliate later. We'll also be walling you into what's left of your property so you don't go out and get help or arms to help yourself (or food, or medicine, or any other basics of life) and we'll be tapping the water source you use as well, all my well armed friends get thirsty, and I had to put in an Olympic size pool to cool them off, so no more watering your lawn or farden (a small garden farm) because I'm using that water.
But it would be unconscionable of you to shoot fireworks at me in retaliation for these obviously good and proper actions I have taken, and we won't stand for a whit of resistance. It will be met with 1000 times the force, and any defense of you or yours is 100% disallowed except shelters, which we refuse to not bomb, that might make it too hard to kill enough of you at once.
It's a good thing I'm obviously the good guy, or else I would look like an asshole for doing that, eh?
That's some convoluted logic for you...and it's absolutely pathetic indeed.

lantern53 said:

Let me aim a couple of ballistic rockets at your house and let me hear you defend me because my rockets suck.

lol what a convoluted sense of logic you have, absolutely pathetic

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John Stossel Gets Schooled on the 4th Amendment

Yogi says...

You reflect a lot of peoples opinions with this. Those who are terrified of terrorist attacks and let themselves get whipped up into a panic state anytime they push the propaganda button.

Oh those aren't happy natives those are blood thirsty psychos redskins we have to destroy to feel safe.

Those aren't nice Chinese laundrymen they're trying to kill us, we need to launch a chemical attack against mainland China (true story).

Those aren't black slaves we're keeping under our boots, they want to rape your daughters we can't give them freedom!

Those aren't peaceful villagers they're Red Communist bastards that are coming for us like a HOARD!

And so on and so on and so on. This country is terrified of everything, and usually the boogie man it makes up is the very people or country that we have under our boot. If we take our boot away for even a second they'll destroy us and everything we hold dear. There were people arming themselves and wearing Camo during the FIRST Gulf War because they were terrified of Saddam Hussein showing up on our doorsteps.

This culture of fear is what they use to justify everything, it's all about Security. Guess what, it doesn't have anything to do with security, because they know very well what they can do to make us more secure, even more than our magical country already is. They're not doing it, they have never done it...they're not protecting us, they only protect themselves FROM US.

This isn't an attack or anything you bring up a very good point which tons of people do during these debates. I'm getting really tired of the most protected society in the world not responding to those who actually pose a threat to not just our survival, but humanities as a whole.

VoodooV said:

I can't vote out a terrorist attack.

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The Most Arrogant Man in the World

Yogi says...

I have an issue with the 2nd "Fact" that everyone liked what they had. That's just stupid, nobody likes what they have, up to 85% in polls wanted single payer health care, it's the rich and the drug and insurance companies that didn't want it. So they got Obama elected and he put in a slightly better system that still benefits the wealthy and hurts people, which is why people saw this system and didn't like it, got angry about it.

The Nobel Prize thing is funny to me because it's hardly an award, horrible war criminals have the Nobel Prize to their name, if anything it's an indicator of how fucking awful you are.

He isn't the most Arrogant, that's totally Trump, but it would be hard to find anyone who wasn't the president or didn't want to be the president who isn't arrogant.

Stay thirsty for knowledge my friends.

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