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Israeli crowd cheers with joy as missile hits Gaza on CNN

shveddy says...

There is no doubt that these people are disgusting, but thankfully they are also rare. Every society has their fringe crazies - the US has Westboro Baptist Church, for instance - and they generally get way more attention than they deserve by being controversial.

This isn't to say that there isn't a problem with Israeli society's attitude toward the Palestinians, it's just to say that I think it is a problem that is far more subtle and widespread. Focusing so much attention on a small percentage of religious fanatics can be important because it does represent a movement and ideology that is problematic, but it has very little direct relevance to the current conflict.

The real problem, in my opinion, is a unique mixture of nationalism and a lopsided insulation from the reality of the conflict that is very common in Israeli society.

Israeli society is uniquely coherent in a particular way that stems from the relatively homogenous cultural identity facilitated by Judaism, and this coherence is also strengthened by the fact that Israeli society was built in the face of and as a direct result of considerable adversity. I think that this does allow for a sort of groupthink that inhibits Israel's ability to treat the Palestinians in a humane manner, but the effect manifests itself through society as a sort of cultural blindness and it manifests through the political process as hawkish policy.

(Also, whether or not you think they had the right to build that society in the first place is beside the point right now, I'm only talking about the existence of the unifying influence of adversity, and the effect it has on policy and the national psyche)

The other component of it is the simple fact that Israelis are extremely insulated from the realities of the Palestinian sufferings.

Even in the heat of a conflict like this, Israelis can pretty much go about their lives unimpeded. It is true that the rocket attacks are disruptive and that there is on a whole an unacceptably high level of danger from external attacks, but Israelis have leveraged a security apparatus that minimizes these realities in day to day life to an astounding degree, all things considered, and this fact is a double edge sword that creates a perfect breeding ground for indifference.

One side of the sword is that these measures are extremely effective at improving the lives of Israelis in the short term. However the other side of the sword is that it obviously makes these measures popular and politically successful. Furthermore, with all the calm and prosperity, it is very easy to forget about the abysmal conditions being imposed on 1.8 million people just thirty kilometers or so from your doorstep. The only time they really have to deal with the issue is when there is an inevitable flareup of violence at which point, naturally, people tend to be less empathetic. The rest of the time, during the lulls, the prospect of empathy is just placed on the back burner.

These are the tendencies that need to be addressed.

However calling Israel the 4th Reich and placing so much focus on youtube videos that give Israel's religious fanatics undue prominence is just as useless and destructive as all the Israelis and Israel sympathizers who insist on viewing Palestinian society as an unchanging, violent monolith that is accurately represented by its extremist elements.

The fact of the matter is that there are significant movements within Israeli society that are in fact attempting to change these trends. The same is true of Palestinian society, however it is more difficult for those movements because of the repressions imposed by Hamas, culture and environment.

If there is to be any hope in this situation, Israel's role as the dominant, occupying force means that they have the first move. They will have to shift from focusing on isolation and self-preservation to one of empathy to the average Palestinian, an empathy that is so strong that they must be willing to take considerable personal risks and let up their stranglehold on Palestinian society and allow them to prosper.

Because only then will the environment be in any way conducive for Palestinians to take considerable personal risks and defy the status quo en masse. Only then will the false succor of violent religious extremism loose its appeal.

Until that happens, we'll the cycle seems to return to square one every two or three years and I expect to have this discussion again sometime around 2017.

Unfortunately, it is going to be a hard and unlikely road because it takes a lot of empathy and effort to rise up and take huge risks during the times of quiet when prosperity and security easily distract from the continuing plight of the Palestinians. These aren't common traits. Humans are a very tribal species and we're not good at this kind of stuff when it concerns someone different who you don't have to interact with. This challenge is hardly unique to the Jews.

Fireworks filmed with a drone

Woman photoshopped in different countries - What is Beauty?

Jinx says...

Likewise, but I'd insist that I had spent days making subtle changes to enhance her natural beauty. Then it would be my experiment to see if you can convince somebody that a placebo unedited picture of themselves is more beautiful than an unedited picture of themselves.

ps. A few tried to even up her eyes but they ended up making her look uglier... asymmetry ftw.

luxury_pie said:

Those "experts" sure use a lot of blur.

And whatever the guy in Germany was on, no we don't like our women looking like fresh out of the morgue. I would have send the photo back unedited btw.

Golf GTI Paints with Light! - Motor Trend

skinnydaddy1 says...

So much work for a crappy pay off.... (Personal Opinion) Sorry... All that just to spell out GTI? Come on...

This could of been something epic.

We have an American Military Base, German Car, Japanese driver.
Just a little subtle hint at something?

Work with me here....

Muslims Interrogate Comedian

shuac says...

A more subtle point is the fact that they played a clip of the offending song, they placed him on a bed of (one might argue) comical rubber nails, the audience laughter, and the general showmanship of the hosts tell me that Islam is slowly headed in a healthier direction.

Clown Panties

dannym3141 says...

It's pretty common for men to do that in comedy, for example the following jokes that have been done to death for years:
- why do women always take so long to get ready ffs!?
- why are women are so emotional/illogical
- why do women talk/gossip a lot
- why do women love to shop/spend my money

That list is long. I've seen enough routines based solely around simply talking about how women are "bitches" (for example) that haven't been seen as sexist so i'd find it hard to criticise this person (who btw is unknown to the rest of the world) for even more subtle sexism.

@chingalera it sounds like you just don't find her funny and don't like her, so maybe you find it easier to take offence to any man bashing. I don't find her funny but i can't say i found anything sexist in this video (as you also say). She certainly hasn't made an impact in britain so i don't know what else she's like - i think i saw her on the roast of charlie sheen, she wasn't funny then either. Steve-o and mike tyson were better but to credit tyson he was so good he deserved a better audience.

Trancecoach said:

Anyone else besides @chingalera picking up a strong misandry vibe in Schumer's comedy? So much of her "comedy" has a "feminist" orientation that seems to do little more than put men down as being merely insensitive, dumb, hypersexual, and dishonest douchebags with no redeeming qualities.

Ricky Gervais' Guilty Pleasures

robbersdog49 says...

I struggled with The Office, mainly because I've worked for people very much like David Brent and couldn't see the funny side. But I've just started watching his latest series Derek and it's completely changed my view of him. It's amazingly well written. He manages to get The most immature dick jokes in there, racist or obscene jokes, physical comedy, clowning, subtle puns and wordplay but all in a plot that is one of the most touching and heartfelt I've seen for a long time, comedy or not.

Great british comedy, like Only Fools and Horses, or Open All Hours, are all about compassion and love. They're funny, but the characters are so well written you really care for them. The writers of Only Fools and Horses managed to write an episode about one of the main characters having a miscarriage. There were jokes throughout the hospital scenes but somehow they didn't stop it being truly tragic, they didn't trivialise it. It was devastating, but funny at the same time.

I'm not sure Derek is quite that level, but it's getting there. It's made me laugh and cry, sometimes at the same time. He's undoubtedly a very clever man and going up in my estimations all the time

Fairbs said:

He thinks he's funnier than I do. Sounds more intelligent here than I would have given him credit before.

White Girlfriend in Harlem Barbershop

pensword says...

Racism in the US is exclusively anti-black racism. I don't think black people can be racist against white people. Discrimination, maybe. But its still not the same= there is not an entire society backing it up. Anti-black racism carries with it an enormous historic force of precedent that remains in Amerikkka today. A black person is shot by the police every 26 hours there.

Its not just about individual ignorance. Its a consciousness that is reflecting economic relations that the US is built on, mainly slavery and its later apartheid forms.

This video remains interesting, but there are actual substantive arguments to be made against inter-racial relationships that it doesn't elaborate. Mainly, a systematic critique of whiteness and the many forms of anti-black racism, some subtle, some not so much, that are bound to come up in inter-racial relationships.

Superman with a GoPro

chingalera says...

Like the comic books of old leaving-out the subtle nuances of physics like whiplash, shock, or the smartest guy on the planet taking the word of a traumatized (or in this case, apparently love-struck-and-with-full-faculties building superintendent) hottie over a quick-fly-back and a glance through with x-ray eyeballs to maybe, make sure the gal was correct?!

Never could stand the inconsistencies of DC's bread-and-butter character, who seems to like his flesh-and-blood human male counterparts, becomes more dim-witted and effeminate with each passing year. Still at the Daily Planet for the day job? C'mon Superman, really?! You should at the very least have a gig with naval intelligence, I hear-tell they still issue the birth-control glasses you so effectively use for that awe-inspiring disguise.

iaui said:

"Oh, you mean that burning, exploding building I just fell out of? No, Superman, there's no one else in there. Yes, I'm absolutely sure of that. No need to think anything more of it. And yes, I'm normally this calm when I'm blown out of skyrises."

Obama's secret plan for nuclear war with Russia

chingalera says...

Ok, I would point-out that everything this puppeteer does so well is based on his stringing-of one cliched phrase to another while using not-so-subtle words to trigger responses. Notice how his carefully-crafted script should he be distracted from it (in this case by a heckler who is not only about to be the brunt of a joke, but probably arrested, detained, bullied, released and followed for weeks and he'll most likely get an IRS audit in his mailbox soon) goes to shit, and he can't improvise a sentence fragment or turn of phrase.

Making the guy the brunt of a joke, then hustling him out of the casino for a work-over. Capone would be proud.

Simple, emotionally-loaded pre-scripted words in every speech, every prepared statement.
He touches his face too much, pretty sure that's a liar's tell, very irritating and one of the most flagrantly insulting heads of state in the history of the office of President.

People, are becoming so overtly programmed to respond to such obvious bullshit....Kill your fucking TV's please people, before Complete Cognitive Warpage occurs...

Moon Saturn Occultation - 22 Feb 2014

deathcow says...

Saturn has some of the highest contrast details of any planet, it really gives an effect of being a cutout or sticker. This is a very common reaction from public viewings on Saturn. People will look for stickers on the other end of the telescope. I have used some really high end refractors where Saturn color is subtle, can look almost paper white and pastels, etched with details.

poolcleaner said:

The first time I looked at Saturn through a telescope I was struck by the fact that at this magnitude it looks like an icon of Saturn cut out of paper, not the actual Saturn.

Bryan Cranston Scared Sh*tless in new Godzilla Trailer

chingalera says...

More like not-so-subtle Hollywood programming-Americans for the most part are being groomed for zombiedom, the environment is being raped at break-neck speeds as are the basic liberties which are a birthright of all of humanity.

Not your imagination billpayer (har), Gojira just gets taller and wider and more ominously terrifying with every new resurrection, innit?? This looks like a good one...

cosmovitelli said:

Hmm constant images of liberty destroyed, the environment reduced to ashes and Americans reduced to zombies.. almost like our subconscious is trying to tell us something..

British Soldier Butchered; Assailant Stays to Make a Speech

chingalera says...

".....these pictures were taken by a man who had been on a bus, heading to a job interview, the day Baghdad-style violence, came to South London....Paul Davis, ITV NEWSSPEAK"

*promote the not-so-subtle programming of the complicit cabal of so-called, British newscasters.

Mormons Declare War on Masturbation

Top 10 Actors Who Haven't Won an Oscar

ChaosEngine says...

Oldman was robbed for Tinker Tailor... he's always been great at big scenery chewing roles, but Tinker Tailor (fantastic movie, btw) showed he could do quiet and subtle as well.

As for Peter O'Toole, he is fantastic and was incredibly unlucky to come up against Gregory Pecks Atticus Finch (an equally worthy winner) when he was nominated for Laurence Of Arabia.

Brad Pitt is ok, but he's just not in the same class.



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