OMFG, why is it so hard for you to see the FLAGRANT corruption that's going on here.

It's not like the police arrived, saw the "fight" ending, observed that Zimmerman was reasonably threatened and was justified in shooting, then interviewed and released him.

The cops lied. They failed to collect crucial evidence. The Sanford City Police INTIMIDATED WITNESSES FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

This case is far from "usual" in the just sense.

[Altho, "privileged man gets of scot-free" is pretty usual in Scam-erica i.e. Goldman Sachs, etc. ..whoa channeling QM there a bit]

Stop being blinded by your fantasies. The United States isn't a Just or Fair or Equal place.

It never has been, and as long as fools like you keep eating the crocks of shit the Oligarchs hand to you.. it never will be.


>> ^Darkhand:


If someone could tell me how long it usually takes a murder suspect to be put on trial I would be interested in learning. To me it seems like people get arrested and then it's months before the case comes to the courts. Having said that this case feels like a natural progression so far.
If they didn't find a reason to arrest him they aren't going to do an about face all of the sudden. They're going to wait till they have their case together then arrest him which I figure will be about the end of April?

I can't NOT do a run-down of the subtitles. They're just too goddamn funny.

"The justified and has charged up former C_i_a_ officer
are john and tour kalo
steeple player is said that right
arbiter reiterates problems they write me anyway out with a espionage act
now that's a very very serious charge you know that before president obama
theres only been
three instances of the united states government
charging someone with the espionage act
forgiving excessive information
as they claim
this former cia officer there
and
six different tastes
that is special on it because president or bob promise to
i'd be air and friend to whistle blowers
entrance passage
there's something wrong in our government he reported he was going to
help you
doesn't look like he's albania
so whatever sag ideal while he talked about
how we want a quart of people
and how was torture
now he thought it was justified even did an interview on sixty minutes
and said
uh that he thought it worked the underplayed amount of george but we did
but do you happen to call it torture
now they look at that missy i did not like that
furthermore there was a two thousand a new york times story which invade
believe he is the source of the dam
proving at and so they well okay i got past and i jack I guess you're you
know
there was one of the toughest laws we have
and we're company get your are part of the spaces
because it's if
here's a great irony of that
if you actually do the waterboarding if you didn't torture
you got no punishment whatsoever
now present all mama claimed it was torture and ridiculous and he says he
stopped at
as ridiculous in a squabble right
is torture
but he didn't always scot-free
the president will not
look backward euler look for work
if you report the waterboarding the torture
espionage act
when I play with a look back work
all its to protect the C_i_a_'s after this thing
protect that's the bush administration
error and dick cheyney that order that torture well then of course you look
backward and in fact the new uh... looked very deep into you know us info about
charging
the defense lawyers at one time all back
our whole system is based on
an adversarial system
where somebody gets a defects
now one of the press uh.. tactics was to look at that
interrogators
and try and determine who they were so they can bring them into the court
and say eight use them as witnesses
because the guys who aren't going to have a bank
that are face execution
listen when you get an executed we should be able to call the witnesses

That's not even half the video. But I laughed my ass off.

I forget that David Tennant is a Scot until I hear him speak outside of the Dr Who role.

I love the Scots. A culture that still (sometimes) manages to maintain violence as an aspect of old fashioned honor and valor.

You gotta love the scots

Craig Ferguson, a Scot, hates the English. Comically, but a grain of truth.

Killing someone who is assaulting you is not murder.

>> ^marbles:

>> ^budzos:
How do you know the girls were no longer a threat? Is this your first fight video? People who are stupid/agressive/enraged enough to jump a counter are not necessarily going to stay away from you just cuz you knocked them onto their tush. Human instinct is to finish the job and remove the threat completely. I wouldn't blame him for killing one of them.
If the guy doesn't walk away scot free this is a total travesty of justice.
We should take a survey... who has been attacked in public? Who has not? I bet you'd see a pretty clear divide in the takes on this scene.

Advocating murder. Nice.

>> ^budzos:

How do you know the girls were no longer a threat? Is this your first fight video? People who are stupid/agressive/enraged enough to jump a counter are not necessarily going to stay away from you just cuz you knocked them onto their tush. Human instinct is to finish the job and remove the threat completely. I wouldn't blame him for killing one of them.
If the guy doesn't walk away scot free this is a total travesty of justice.
We should take a survey... who has been attacked in public? Who has not? I bet you'd see a pretty clear divide in the takes on this scene.


Advocating murder. Nice.

And being slapped by a woman is hardly being "attacked in public"

>> ^budzos:

How do you know the girls were no longer a threat? Is this your first fight video? People who are stupid/agressive/enraged enough to jump a counter are not necessarily going to stay away from you just cuz you knocked them onto their tush. Human instinct is to finish the job and remove the threat completely. I wouldn't blame him for killing one of them.
If the guy doesn't walk away scot free this is a total travesty of justice.
We should take a survey... who has been attacked in public? Who has not? I bet you'd see a pretty clear divide in the takes on this scene.


Completely generic hyperbole.

How do you know the girls were no longer a threat? Is this your first fight video? People who are stupid/agressive/enraged enough to jump a counter are not necessarily going to stay away from you just cuz you knocked them onto their tush. Human instinct is to finish the job and remove the threat completely. I wouldn't blame him for killing one of them.

If the guy doesn't walk away scot free this is a total travesty of justice.

We should take a survey... who has been attacked in public? Who has not? I bet you'd see a pretty clear divide in the takes on this scene.

GREAT SCOT! he hit 88 and went back in time.

Mission successful.

Not to mention, after all of that going off without a hitch, every one of the hundreds of ninja demomen involved kept their mouths shut and never told anyone.

The average person can't keep their mouth shut about office rumors and surprise parties; there's no way you could keep the thousands of people in on the plan all quiet.
>> ^ChaosEngine:

This is really getting a) old and b) laughable.
We are expected to believe that some elite group (who are these people btw? CIA? NSA? the illuminati?) managed to sneak tonnes of explosive into a building that was used daily by hundreds (thousands?) of people and no-one noticed or said anything?
Also if you've ever seen a controlled demolition site, it's covered in wires and cables and the explosives are strapped directly to the support columns. There isn't a single witness to this?
Finally, we're supposed to believe these same ninja demomen (presumably one-eyed black scots) are awesome enough to do all this but phenomenally stupid enough to make the whole thing look like a controlled explosion? They couldn't have detonated one side first and let it fall in a more chaotic and "believable" way?

This is really getting a) old and b) laughable.

We are expected to believe that some elite group (who are these people btw? CIA? NSA? the illuminati?) managed to sneak tonnes of explosive into a building that was used daily by hundreds (thousands?) of people and no-one noticed or said anything?

Also if you've ever seen a controlled demolition site, it's covered in wires and cables and the explosives are strapped directly to the support columns. There isn't a single witness to this?

Finally, we're supposed to believe these same ninja demomen (presumably one-eyed black scots) are awesome enough to do all this but phenomenally stupid enough to make the whole thing look like a controlled explosion? They couldn't have detonated one side first and let it fall in a more chaotic and "believable" way?

Every action has some form of motivation, even a psycho's mass murdering spree; it's all good and fine to look for it, but in the meanwhile it's the protective action that counts, something the police force in GB took ages to do. As for the "bonehead militias", most of them were simply groups of neighbours and friends trying their best to protect their livelihoods. Most of them were immigrants who had worked hard to build a life for themselves abroad, only to find everything ruined because of unruly misguided youths high on violence.

As for blaming the violence on the bad decisions concerning social services, I beg to differ. Look at the protests/riots in Greece, Spain, etc. All of them had major peacefull counterparts, with actual demands being made. It's not like the so-called "disenfranchised youths" (and they were not all poor, nor young btw) of London and elsewhere did not have recent examples of protests that did not involve using social networking to best loot the fashion shop, and burning people's homes (Arab Spring anyone?).

I agree about the ridiculous consummer identity we have going on in society... "you are what you buy" really sickens me to the bone. As does the corporate criminels going on with their billionaire, society-crushing lifestyles. But is it possible to send a more counterproductive message than the one we've seen in England?

p.s.: what's and ASPO?

>> ^radx:

Unjustifiable as their actions are, calling it mindless destruction by spoilt children does no good in my book. There is a reason, there always is a reason, and I highly doubt it is as simple as it is presented to be in most articles I've read so far. They are criminals, yes, but what's their motivation, what's their reasoning? Without knowing the deeper cause, any actions -- crackdowns as many suggest -- will only suppress the problem for the time being, making a later outbreak all the worse.
Particularly if law enforcement plays dirty, pushes the boundaries of the rule of law -- and the use of billboards and social media by the police as a modern pillory, that's on the fucking edge, if you ask me. If one of those bonehead militias acts upon it, the shit could turn ugly real quick.
Anyway, there's no wisdom, no insight I can claim to have from within the isolation of what is commonly known as the middle class; only impressions and thoughts.
However, the violence cannot come as a surprise, given the unrest last winter caused by a raise in tuition fees; it cannot come as a surprise, given the sheer volume of social cuts, particularly small programs. How can anyone be caught off guard by their blatant disregard of the law given how disenfranchised many of them are, and given how the crooks working in the City of London walked away scot-free after the damage they caused, which was magnitude higher. Who speaks out on their behalf? Politicians? Unions? Seems to me, they're on their own, destined to remain invisible -- until they lash out. They appear to be farther removed from the democratic process than anyone would like to admit. Politics, society, community, whatever you want to call it: they have no stakes in the game.
And how surprising is it, really, to find them looting expensive comsumer products -- you are what you wear, right? It's in your face, everywhere, all the time, particularly in a city like London. So now the folks who were cut off from this just snapped and went for it, no matter the rules? I'm shocked!
As for their treatment by the coppers: are ASPOs still handed out left, right and center in certain districts?
But hey, like I said, I'm too far removed from their reality of life to make any meaningful statements, much less suggestions. Just poking in the dark, that's what this is.