>> ^jonny:
searching by channel

as stated before: even better when you can search in 2 or 3 or more selected channels, so one can search e.g. all dark mystery shortfilms or all parody meme comedy posts..

A really great feature would be a neighbour system (cf. last.fm)/similarity meter..

And I'm all for more/better stats!

hey asynchronice,
thanks for your input on this, its always interesting to hear more background on something especially on a subject such as this. I also noticed that the roundtable dicussion at the end was fairly biased as well but I figured I would let the video stand for it self and see if anyone had any input on it. I didnt mean for this to be flamebait in any way either, I find religion of all kinds very interesting... even if I want no part of it As for other videos I'm not sure, I actually just stumbled upon this while searching for a different video completely unrelated to religion. I checked the youtube account that this came from and the person seems to be fairly biased against mormons but it might be worth browsing through his movies.
As for the golden bathtub...well I think I'm gonna leave that one alone
>> ^asynchronice:
Being raised Mormon and having since realized how retarded ALL of them are and now comfortably atheist, I think I can speak fairly about this:
It's called Kolob, and the only reason I know is because it's in one of the super-freaky hymns that was in the back of the hymn book:
"If you could hie to Kolob in the twinkling of an eye"
I would imagine 90% of Mormons have no idea what this is. It's mentioned only briefly in the Mormon scripture, and (like many Biblical passages), was only intended to be understood metaphorically. However I would fault the author (Mr. Smith) with coining a sci-fi sounding name which obscures the point. But beyond that, the video has some very interesting slightly subliminal techniques. The emphasis on multiple gods, the 'Mormon' Jesus; there is a very concerted effort to demarcate where the creators Christianity begins and Mormonism begins. The 'facts' presented here are all very obscure passages, painstakingly juxtapositioned together to create a very loose narrative that is just crazy enough to fit together, but not really make a lot of sense.
And this is clearly not a 'real' documentary as the interview session at the end is laughably biased.
This piece could be done to any Judeo-Christian faith (maybe Eastern as well, but that's out of my area), as it focuses on only the mystical and obscure facts and spends all of it's time elaborating on them. It would be like a documentary on Catholicism and spending all your time on Revelations. You couldn't deny it was true (or at least according to the Vatican), but you miss the point. Entertaining, maybe; educational, not so much.
This reminds me of an old friend of mine who went to a private Christian school, and one day in mandatory 'bible' class (lolz) they showed a video on Mormonism. Based on our conversation, I'm guessing this is what he saw. He laughed it off and said they had little videos on all the 'other' religions, that focus specifically on how to demean them, which most of them picked up on and ignored.
That said, I'd like to see those other videos too

^ I would argue that thinking ahead is exactly why we must impeach him. Otherwise, we're condoning what's been done, and inviting future presidents to dissolve the Constitution, and claim that all power of government is vested in the President alone, and cite the Bush presidency as a precedent for the legality of such actions.

I was in doubt of the utility of impeachment this late myself, but this roundtable discussion on Bill Moyers changed my mind.

I am very freedom-based in my ideology. If a person wants to watch videos of this nature, they have every right to. I don't agree with that mentality, but in order to preserve my own, I must show the same decency. Same goes with if somebody doesn't want to see stuff like that, they have every right not to. However, they don't have a right to eliminate that for others, without consent.

To find an even ground, I was initially thinking maybe a new command should be handed out, like a "Discretion is Advised" that would send a video into a roundtable for discussion, but then, of course, that's what we already have discuss for. So that's where I'm leaning...

Sweet, thanks. Now I have to make time to play with all that... stupid non-essential exams...

In reply to this comment by arvana:
Thanks, buddy! I have a ton of CSS links you can read through, but the easiest way to go about it is to download Lucky's sample CSS from the channel manager page and play around with that.

Here are some good resources to check out:

http://www.wpdfd.com/issues/70/css_from_the_ground_up/
http://www.html.net/tutorials/css/introduction.asp
http://www.echoecho.com/css.htm
http://techcheatsheets.com/tag/css/
http://www.w3schools.com/css/

That should keep you out of trouble for a while!


In reply to this comment by Krupo:
#1 I like your CSS work
#2 I need an access to a CSS tutorial or something to figure out how to spruce up everything, including woohoo.videosift.com

Any advice/links to send me to?

In reply to this comment by arvana:
Very important idea for 3.2:  MORE STYLE!!!

The default colours & styling for the site are soooo boooooring... have a look at the Nature channel to see an example of what can be done.  Not that I love my own work or anything.

Thanks, buddy! I have a ton of CSS links you can read through, but the easiest way to go about it is to download Lucky's sample CSS from the channel manager page and play around with that.

Here are some good resources to check out:

http://www.wpdfd.com/issues/70/css_from_the_ground_up/
http://www.html.net/tutorials/css/introduction.asp
http://www.echoecho.com/css.htm
http://techcheatsheets.com/tag/css/
http://www.w3schools.com/css/

That should keep you out of trouble for a while!


In reply to this comment by Krupo:
#1 I like your CSS work
#2 I need an access to a CSS tutorial or something to figure out how to spruce up everything, including woohoo.videosift.com

Any advice/links to send me to?

In reply to this comment by arvana:
Very important idea for 3.2:  MORE STYLE!!!

The default colours & styling for the site are soooo boooooring... have a look at the Nature channel to see an example of what can be done.  Not that I love my own work or anything.

^Eklek:
Comment vote idea:
often people don't up-/downvote a comment because they only partly (dis)agree. It would be nice to show partial (dis)agreement by up-/downvoting a half point.


http://www.videosift.com/talk/VideoSift-32-Roundtable-thread#comment-426350

I think that's just over-complicating things. If you don't agree with a post but don't feel you want to downvote it, then.....Don't vote at all.
Why bother adding a semi-vote when not voting seems to accomplish the same thing?


Well, it does not accomplish the same thing because without voting there's no quantitative analysis of its content. A lot of commenters don't reply in a new comment to clarify why they up-/downvoted or abstained from voting. A half up-/downvote would be less absolute.
It often happens to me I read a post where I partly disagree with that I commend nevertheless, a 1/2 upvote would value the comment in question and contribute to determining what the community values (quantitatively)...a full +1 upvote would be not fully satisfactory in this case as it would appear to some degree that I fully agree with the content of the comment.
A small (1/2) and big (1) up- and downarrow is not so confusing I think.

>> ^arsenault185:
Here is the ULTIMATE solution to the debate over videos getting sifted because of the user:
Hide the users name who submitted the video while its in the queue. (except probies) That way we are 95% guaranteed that videos get votes based on the content, not the Sifter. THERE. You may all thank me now for solving this problem.


Absolutely agree. If the poster has nothing to do with the votes, then what is anyone worried about?

>> ^Fedquip:
>> ^MarineGunrock:
Though I like your proposed rewards for getting the golden crown, I think the 'P' should stay. It's big, it's ugly, and it lets us easily identify newbies to look out for bad stuff. The uglier it is, the more they will want to get rid of it by becoming a contributing member.

or keep the P and just re-name it from "Probation" to "Primary Member" er..something like that


Or a big, ugly, red "N" for "new member"?

>> ^MarineGunrock:
Though I like your proposed rewards for getting the golden crown, I think the 'P' should stay. It's big, it's ugly, and it lets us easily identify newbies to look out for bad stuff. The uglier it is, the more they will want to get rid of it by becoming a contributing member.


or keep the P and just re-name it from "Probation" to "Primary Member" er..something like that

#1 I like your CSS work
#2 I need an access to a CSS tutorial or something to figure out how to spruce up everything, including woohoo.videosift.com

Any advice/links to send me to?

In reply to this comment by arvana:
Very important idea for 3.2:  MORE STYLE!!!

The default colours & styling for the site are soooo boooooring... have a look at the Nature channel to see an example of what can be done.  Not that I love my own work or anything.

>> ^arsenault185:
^Eat me.


[gnaws] Meh, doesn't taste good.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
I'd like the site to go porn because I like porn.


Take your own advice on this issue from a previous thread. its been done.

Here is another suggestion
Message counter
How about having a simple counter for messages next to your name at the top right corner?

Like

mauz15 (3) | Account | Log out

So in that case I would know there are three new messages for me. I am aware of the notification by mail but while useful is not really the best in my opinion.
With this counter, we could perhaps reply faster to comments.


>> ^arsenault185:
New Idea:
A frame wouldn't be so bad. But ONLY the top of the page, the tabs and links. It might be nice to have that so when your at the bottom of a thread (i.e. this one) and you are ready to move on to the next area of interest, you don't have to scroll ALLLLLLL the way back up. But maybe if you make it an option that users can select in their preferances, then you might be able to make everybody happy.


Um you never need to scroll all the way up.
Just click the 'Home' key.

>> ^Eklek:
Comment vote idea:
often people don't up-/downvote a comment because they only partly (dis)agree. It would be nice to show partial (dis)agreement by up-/downvoting a half point.


I think that's just over-complicating things. If you don't agree with a post but don't feel you want to downvote it, then.....Don't vote at all.
Why bother adding a semi-vote when not voting seems to accomplish the same thing?

>> ^arsenault185:
^ I can't disagree more on that one. If you are going to downvote, there is no reason to fear retribution. Just down vote, leave a small comment as to why, if you feel like it, and move on. No one needs to get but hurt because there was a down vote. (unless they are abusing it). Ok, Now I am asking nicely, lets not discuss the downvote issue anymore in this thread. thats not why this thread is here.


Just to respond to what you said, it IS probably the reason many people don't downvote though. Especially right now when it's perceived as a kind of wrong doing, even though in actual fact it is not. I mean I'm sure some people do have the mindset that they'll be looked down upon/have their own videos downvoted.