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Just like to say that a pratfall is technically a physical comedy move. No one gets hurt. You also fall on your ass, hence the "prat" part.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_comedy

This guy faceplants.

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Not to mention lose the opportunity for a great pratfall video.

They plan these things well in advance, you know.

This really is another storm in a bloody teacup.

@ChaosEngine brought up the perfect example of what's wrong on both sides of this type of thing with the Penny Arcade Sixth Slave comic debacle. That comic was absolutely innocuous. Having a slave say they were raped to sleep by dickwolves was merely a ludicrously horrible statement to show what a terrible existence the slave had, and why the player ignoring their pleas because they had fulfilled their quota was such a hilariously callous reaction.

To think that someone could read that and be offended, be offended enough to write a bloody blog post, is just stunning. It absolutely demonstrates a demeanour that's looking for the worst in everything and not the humour. I get that you may not find the comic funny, but to actually get riled up by it, to actually think it was worth telling people that you got riled up by it is stunning.

But then we get to the other ugly side of things. We have people who get angry at the people who got offended, and so they start attacking them (verbally), and start saying just horrible, mean spirited, ugly things. They start saying misogynistic, aggressive things that seem to demonstrate an ACTUAL core of anger/hatred towards women.

And that becomes scary.

So I think both sides are usually wrong in these cases:

* Those who get offended:
A lot of the time have very little reason to actually be offended (especially in the penny arcade example), it's as if they're attuned to their own little sphere of outrage and if someone mentions one of their keywords then they'll go nuts, regardless of the intent of a given joke.

* Those who made the initial joke and/or those who defend them:
Far, far, FAR too often they end up really attacking those that were offended, becoming vile and disgusting and not showing any restraint or compassion at all. Mike Krahulik demonstrates how NOT to handle something like the dickwolves incident. The correct way? 'Sorry you were offended by it, really don't understand how anyone could be, we're not taking it down as we don't see anything wrong with it. Let this be the end of it'. But nooo, he pushed and pushed and pushed it.

Louis CK, as usual, demonstrated that he can joke about horrible things and come up trumps because it's ALWAYS obvious that he's saying things in jest and from a good place (or for pure shock value). When someone says something so shit as 'It'd be funny if she was gang raped right now' without a damn strong demonstration that it was in jest and in no way meant to be mean or serious... well then that's a dick move and probably should be called out.

But for it to be as big as it's got? Gah!

My take on the subject is simple: is it funny?

That's the end of it where comedy is concerned. Regardless of what was said, if the content, delivery and context all add up to humour, then by definition it's not offensive to me.

As I've made clear, I think Tosh is to comedy what an accounting manual is to literature. I didn't find Toshs joke funny, but at the same time, I don't believe there was malice in it. I think it was just a bad joke.

I'm also uncertain as to what "rape culture" is. On the one hand, the kind of vitriol that gets spewed on XBox Live disgusts me, and is one of the reasons I can't be bothered with consoles. On the other hand, I though the controversy over Penny Arcades Sixth Slave comic was retarded.

A bit of epic *eia for doing a demo like this with no helmet on. I guess he has a good pratfall style to make up for it though.

Synchronized pratfalls, a new Olympic sport is invented.

>> ^Lolthien:
>> ^vairetube:
the fake fall; the slight zoom as the incident occurs; the perfect calmness of the camera person; the underreaction of the bridesmaids; the lack of swearing; the priest seems iffy; most of all, how fake it is really cinches it for meh

This.. the whole things seems a setup.. one Bridesmaid? One Groomsman? The pratfall... Really does ring fake.


I see multiple bridesmaids in yellow.

>> ^vairetube:
the fake fall; the slight zoom as the incident occurs; the perfect calmness of the camera person; the underreaction of the bridesmaids; the lack of swearing; the priest seems iffy; most of all, how fake it is really cinches it for meh


This.. the whole things seems a setup.. one Bridesmaid? One Groomsman? The pratfall... Really does ring fake.

pretty good
pratfall at the end was the most impressive part.

>> ^charlatantric:
What did you not understand about about my last statement? It's a fake, obviously.
See, I think you're backpedaling here. You, after all, did label it 1sttube.
And actually, yes, it's hard for me to laugh at staged material, especially under the guise of being genuine. I laugh all the time at pratfalls in the gamut of comedies I watch or when it happens live before my eyes, but when a video pretends to be something it isn't, it loses all its charm, and is considerably unfunny to me.
What is fun for me is breaking down the video on what specifically tipped me off. It's a fun analysis. Apparently I'm not the only one (it's the most upvoted comment).
I think the issue here might be your intolerance for people who don't share your sense of humor.


^Fake.

(And actually MarineGunrock's comment also has 5 votes. I guess trolls are bad at math too. )

What did you not understand about about my last statement? It's a fake, obviously.

See, I think you're backpedaling here. You, after all, did label it 1sttube.

And actually, yes, it's hard for me to laugh at staged material, especially under the guise of being genuine. I laugh all the time at pratfalls in the gamut of comedies I watch or when it happens live before my eyes, but when a video pretends to be something it isn't, it loses all its charm, and is considerably unfunny to me.

What is fun for me is breaking down the video on what specifically tipped me off. It's a fun analysis. Apparently I'm not the only one (it's the most upvoted comment).

I think the issue here might be your intolerance for people who don't share your sense of humor.

I must confess a funny true story.

I've been pretty sick for the last few days. So last night, while watching this, I burst into uncontrollable laughter, which triggered a coughing fit, which actually caused me to pass out and bonk my head on the carpeted floor.

It didn't really hurt, but it did leave a rug burn about the size of a nickel on my forehead (I'm sure kp can relate).

Issy thought I was doing pratfalls, but no, it was real. Embarrassing, but true.

Thanks a lot fissionchips.