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>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^Throbbin:
I would have knocked the camera man out cold. Something being legal doesn't make something acceptable.
I'm not a puritan, I'm not religious, and I enjoy the feminine form as much as anyone - but I would not have accepted him standing around zoomed in on her crotch.
There are those of you who defend him for it being a public thing. Would you defend men in trench coats hanging around playgrounds? How about men with video cameras zoomed in on the crotches of a girls high school swim team? How about defending the Phelps family demonstrating in front of the funerals of dead soldiers? All perfectly legal, and I guess all perfectly legit with folks on VS.

Correction, you'd get knocked out by a surprised (and probably weedy) cameraman.
There's a pretty big difference between someone filming a high school swimming team's camel toe surreptitiously with obligatory shakey-cam and filming what looks to me like an adult woman WHO IS LITERALLY DISPLAYING AND FRAMING HER VAGINA IN THE MIDDLE OF A CROWDED STREET. And why is a trench coat any more offensive than for example, a neo-matrix coat? Why should the attire of a private detective draw your concern? And what the fuck has anything got do with vietnam?!?!? (war protesting)
If i saw this woman in the street and got chatting with her, it wouldn't even cross my mind that she was anything other than an adult. People referring to this woman as a minor, it makes me want to cry. I wonder if the modern awareness of paedophilia has brought as many false positives as it has genuine positives.
Do you know what? If i was so concerned about people seeing my cock and balls tightly sillhouetted against my tight shorts, i think i'd fucking refrain from posing - LITERALLY POSING - with my foot above my head whilst families walk past.
If you whipped this situation on its head and imagined that a porn star was doing what she was doing with a big sign saying "porn shoot", you'd get fat mothers and fathers waddling over to complain that they didn't want their children seeing bits and pieces on display. But because we're pretending that this is a poor innocent young girl who was just practising ballet oh yes sir poor lil ole me, suddenly we have to protect her poor innocence.
I just LOVE how people like you can see a video - one with utter moral ambiguity - and then say "Oh so you'd also let people stab a baby in the kidney? You want to make it a law that every school has to have at least 5 paedophiles working as teachers?" No, you mong. No one said those things. This situation is not "other situations". Discuss this situation, don't raise unparallel parallels.
In an ideal world, this video would have been titled "stupid exhibitionist bint shows her vagoo in the street, pervert films it, no one interrupts, everyone feels ashamed of the human race"
As for the post above me, man, no one i associate with would do this in the street and i think i could raise my children better when the time comes.

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>> ^Throbbin:

I would have knocked the camera man out cold. Something being legal doesn't make something acceptable.
I'm not a puritan, I'm not religious, and I enjoy the feminine form as much as anyone - but I would not have accepted him standing around zoomed in on her crotch.
There are those of you who defend him for it being a public thing. Would you defend men in trench coats hanging around playgrounds? How about men with video cameras zoomed in on the crotches of a girls high school swim team? How about defending the Phelps family demonstrating in front of the funerals of dead soldiers? All perfectly legal, and I guess all perfectly legit with folks on VS.


Correction, you'd get knocked out by a surprised (and probably weedy) cameraman.

There's a pretty big difference between someone filming a high school swimming team's camel toe surreptitiously with obligatory shakey-cam and filming what looks to me like an adult woman WHO IS LITERALLY DISPLAYING AND FRAMING HER VAGINA IN THE MIDDLE OF A CROWDED STREET. And why is a trench coat any more offensive than for example, a neo-matrix coat? Why should the attire of a private detective draw your concern? And what the fuck has anything got do with vietnam?!?!? (war protesting)

If i saw this woman in the street and got chatting with her, it wouldn't even cross my mind that she was anything other than an adult. People referring to this woman as a minor, it makes me want to cry. I wonder if the modern awareness of paedophilia has brought as many false positives as it has genuine positives.

Do you know what? If i was so concerned about people seeing my cock and balls tightly sillhouetted against my tight shorts, i think i'd fucking refrain from posing - LITERALLY POSING - with my foot above my head whilst families walk past.

If you whipped this situation on its head and imagined that a porn star was doing what she was doing with a big sign saying "porn shoot", you'd get fat mothers and fathers waddling over to complain that they didn't want their children seeing bits and pieces on display. But because we're pretending that this is a poor innocent young girl who was just practising ballet oh yes sir poor lil ole me, suddenly we have to protect her poor innocence.

I just LOVE how people like you can see a video - one with utter moral ambiguity - and then say "Oh so you'd also let people stab a baby in the kidney? You want to make it a law that every school has to have at least 5 paedophiles working as teachers?" No, you mong. No one said those things. This situation is not "other situations". Discuss this situation, don't raise unparallel parallels.

In an ideal world, this video would have been titled "stupid exhibitionist bint shows her vagoo in the street, pervert films it, no one interrupts, everyone feels ashamed of the human race"

As for the post above me, man, no one i associate with would do this in the street and i think i could raise my children better when the time comes.

He's a guy from a radio show not a perv.
The person who said they'd punch him, you are either a liar and full of shit or asking for someone there to kick your ass for hitting a random guy. (that would be what I'd do, the second part)
Calling people defending him hypocrites is more retarded than downs.
Was it pervish? Sure. Go to a dance studio or a less public place to do it.

If you stand under 1000 birds expect to get shit on.

Hear Hear!

In reply to this comment by Xax:
She's posing in public for everyone to see... but filming it?? Oh my God, the fucking nerve! Fucking lunatic freaks. And the indignance of the girl for someone watching her spread her legs wearing short shorts in public... what the hell is wrong with people?

This one time in kindergarten, this "teacher" said that to me too... she was such a fapkill.
>> ^residue:

I too am surprised by the amount of support for the cameraman. Just because you technically have the legal right to film underage girls crotches in public doesn't mean it's socially acceptable to do so.

>> ^jwray:

>> ^eventualentropy:
>> ^jwray:
Those "concerned citizens" are retarded busybodies who should mind their own business. The amateur photographer didn't respond well to criticism either. If the girl being filmed had actually objected it would have been different, but it looks like she only left because of the confrontation that the "concerned citizens" started. Plus, the commercial photographer is doing the same thing as the amateur photographer.

No, the model was objecting to it, she asked him to go somewhere else. The girl may have been asking for it by posing but the guy shouldn't be surprised when people get uncomfortable with him walking around filming underage girls against their wishes (she said she was 17)


He sacrificed the high ground by being a total asshole when confronted, but at what point in the video did the model say anything except "I'm 17"? Besides, "I'm 17" isn't a definite statement against either party of the conflict, just something on which you can project your biases. 17 is above the age of consent in about half the states of the USA, including New York (it looks like they're in Manhattan). She doesn't even look younger than an average fashion model on an average fashion magazine in an average supermarket.


Around the :57 mark she can be heard saying "Please, just go that way" (easy to miss), not to mention all the obvious disapproving looks she gives him. I do admit that the underage argument is pretty weak. But anyway, as other people have pointed out, neither party was in the right. This video makes me never want to go to New York if this is what the people are like to each other.

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Agreed.

In reply to this comment by residue:
I too am surprised by the amount of support for the cameraman. Just because you technically have the legal right to film underage girls crotches in public doesn't mean it's socially acceptable to do so.

>> ^KnivesOut:

I want a t-shirt that says "I See The World In Shades of Perviness"


Hehe, your avatar seems to have that going on... quite appropriate.

>> ^alizarin:

Yikes - people are defending the guy zooming in on the teenager's ass? Do you hand out medals to guys who put mirrors on their shoes or grab-ass on the trains?



if it was a 16 yr old boy with a 6 pack having photoes taken and women kept coming up and tuching his chest that would be 100% acceptable.

yet a 16 yr old girl waving her vagina around and sumone videoing it is not acceptable.

in the end it comes down to the person geting tuched/ filmed if they dont want it and they ask politely for the other person to stop then u wouldhope th eother person would stop , but on the other side of it if i was doing a porno shoot in the center of a city and exspected to make money out of people selling the shoot becuse they are gona get off on it , then u would have to exspect people to gawk and its weard to think it sok for them to gawk in 1 context but not another.


granted she is a dancer , so what in this video she is just posing and i can almost garetee that allot of ballet or dance in gneral has sexual aspects and motivatoins to the moves , thats not evan a good or bad thing peole are cretures that value sex so its bound to enter into most things.

HUR HUR! pedo...its the new nigger!

for fucks sake, people think he lost the highground because he was a dick... when you are verbally assaulted and accused of being a pervert for filming something thats happening in broad daylight in a VERY public place you have the right to be a dick..sorry, but you shouldn't have to be polite when basically being accused of being a sex criminal for filming something thats happening in public.

and I'm sorry but the white knight on the bike would have gotten knocked the fuck out...you do not get in my face with that shit when i'm doing nothing to you...best back the fuck off.

godamned false moral hypocrite suedo-puritan country is turning into a christ-mastabatory wasteland.

she is 17, 17 is not a child...she is a fully sexually mature woman, but OH NOES! HURHUR the law sais u cant tuch her so hurhur fuck of u PERV!!1!!

godamned ridiculous.

>> ^residue:

I too am surprised by the amount of support for the cameraman. Just because you technically have the legal right to film underage girls crotches in public doesn't mean it's socially acceptable to do so.


Me? I only film overage girls crotches in public.

I skipped to the "confrontation" - so I didn't see how the dude was perving out. Pretty creepy.

Frankly, if they were concerned about some guy recording a video of what they were doing, perhaps they shouldn't have been doing it in public. Doesn't reduce the creepiness of the perv man... But still - pretty dumb.

>> ^MycroftHomlz:

Dude. This is harassment. Don't be a bunch of retards.


I agree; they had no right to harass the videographer whatsoever.