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UPDATED! EURO S⇧FTUP 2009 now with confirmed location! (British Talk Post)

maatc says...

>> ^Deano:
Sorry "non students"? If this grouping is based around anything to do with being a student then I'm in trouble


From what I read admission to the suggested Kings College Waterfront bar is in the company of a registered student only.
I think we should be fine as long as the group doesn´t get too big, but I´ll let punk225 be the judge of that...

From what it looks like now we should probably also think about an alternative, but I don´t know my way around the London nightlife, so we need some locals to jump in with suggestions.

UPDATED! EURO S⇧FTUP 2009 now with confirmed location! (British Talk Post)

punk225 says...

Sounds cool I'll come along, my schedule is pritty empty after dropping out of uni anyway . I've been to the odd pub or two in london and if people are a bit pushed for money i could try and sneek the more youthful of you into kings college's waterfront bar (very nice views of london as well).

A video project sounds cool as well

Cops say legalize drugs, ask them why

drattus says...

"Basic economic principles tell us that drugs under prohibition will be more expensive and less available because of the extra effort that has to be spent evading police"

Unfortunatly that's not true. Let's take a generic make believe drug for example, it costs $1000 a kilo at the source and is worth $100,000 a kilo by the time it hits the US streets. Ok, so we pull a plan Columbia or whatever and triple the price at the source, now we've reduced the middleman profit from $99,000 a Kilo to $97,000 a kilo.

That's more or less the type of situation we're dealing with. But wait, it gets worse.

These are screen captures which in some cases contain minor errors I'd guess are due to being taken before the source was updated for the last census but Ive found no error that changed the results, just minor discrepancies in population totals. You can check the sources yourself though, I have.

Adjusted for inflation to constant 2002 dollars, heroin dropped from $1,974.49 a gram in 1981 to $372.00 a gram in 2002.

http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/heroin-prices.htm

Heroin purity in the same 1 gram range climbed from 8 percent in 1981 to 39% last stats after a peak of 44%.

http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/heroin-purity.htm

That might have lead to the climb in the death rates, crude death rate bouncing between 0.2 and 0.1 a year in 1979-1980 which climbed to 1.1 by 1998.

http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/death/cdc/opiates-yr.htm

I could go on into the stats for cocaine if you'd like, or whatever. I know all the arguments for why we should do this, problem is all we've really accomplished is to become the most imprisoned nation in the world and we still have one of the worst abuse rates. Here's our prison stats compared to the world, according to The International Centre For Prison Studies out of Kings College, London.

http://www.prisonstudies.org/

Select language, World Prison Brief, Highest to lowest rates, then if you want totals or rates.

What we're doing isn't taking us to a good place.

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