At some point in this thread there was a reasonable argument, but then you had to mention killer bees =( Those things are dangerous man!>> ^kymbos:

...and the bullets are filled with killer bees!
>> ^HaricotVert:
And the shotgun is loaded with radioactive bullets.
>> ^IronDwarf:
Her metaphor doesn't even make sense. It's not that the kid getting punched won't do anything back, it's that he won't pull out a shotgun and blow the other kid's head off for simply hitting him in the face.

...and the bullets are filled with killer bees!
>> ^HaricotVert:

And the shotgun is loaded with radioactive bullets.
>> ^IronDwarf:
Her metaphor doesn't even make sense. It's not that the kid getting punched won't do anything back, it's that he won't pull out a shotgun and blow the other kid's head off for simply hitting him in the face.

That was excellent!

I'd like to dedicate this post to my extreme luck at having miraculously been able to survive to my current age without ever falling victim to:

AIDs, nuclear war, terrorism, salmonella, rabies, penis removal by a jealous lover, carpal tunnel syndrome, H1N1, hostage crisis, arson, skin cancer from global warming / ozone layer depletion, nanotechnology attack, killer bee stings, school gun violence, erectile dysfunction, guerrilla insurgents, sex-crazed porn addict serial killers, wrath of God / Muhammed / Shiva / Buddha / Flying Spaghetti Monster, testicular cancer, flesh eating bacteria, sticky pedals or exploding gas tanks in my car, stingrays piercing my heart, earthquakes / tsunamis / hurricanes / tornadoes, cellphone brain tumors, prostate cancer, anal probes (except to prevent prostate cancer), fundamental loss of reality due to playing video games, spontaneous human combustion,
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They could face killer bees and tidal waves too! Believe in global warming has NOTHING to do with any of my jesting here. My jesting is just about how 100% sure of everything people are now. Moreover, how consumerism is still largerly a part of environmentalism and uses the same fear tactics that people have used to go to war over the ages (fear and panic). I think warming is happening for sure, and in the past, that has been a good thing and a bad thing. They used to farm in north England back in the medieval climate optimum. Global warming isn't necessarily bad or good, it is change though, and people exploiting that change through fear-mongering just like bush did with "terrorists, are everywhere gonna get you in your sleep!"

Your slanderous generalizations aside, perhaps I was a little crass about it, but I just find it all so hysterical, and not in a good way.


(wth, evolution? What what what? Who was even talking about that..red herring alert! Someone call animal control!)

i'm pretty much done with this because i've said all i care to say about the subject but i can't help but notice that you're comparing apples and oranges.

you've compared Audience 1 (Substance 1) to Audience 2 (Substance 2).

how can you expect to compare how often 12-14 year olds use cough syrup, to 16-18 year olds using marijuana? it's not even a rational discussion point so much as you've just coughed up facts that favor your stance by using larger percentage values.


Kittens injure 32% of people by age 25.
Killer Bees injure less than 2% of people by age 10.
Clearly kittens are a bane on society and must be abolished at any cost!


End of Line.


[edit]: Looked at your link and found a proper comparison for you.

Marijuana
In 2006 the annual prevalence for marijuana was 12 percent in 8th grade, 25 percent in 10th grade, and 32 percent in 12th grade.

Over-the-counter cough or cold medications
The proportions of students reporting having used these drugs during the prior year for the purpose of getting high were 4 percent, 5 percent, and 7 percent in grades 8, 10, and 12.

discuss as you will, but you'll be talking to yourself. I'm done, but I couldn't stand by and watch you mislead everyone else with cherry-picked numbers that inflate the visibility of your stance while lending absolutely nothing to the discussion of (look at the title of the video) Weed and Driving.

Here is a list of things that can also power the Texas Instruments micro controller: Aardvarks, ants, apples, Avril Lavine, Breadfruit, baguettes, Brussel sprouts, Bark, Batteries, Coneys, Carpet, Cats, Crumbs, Crap, Dams (beaver or man-made), Droids, Energy, Flies, Fruit (any kind), Fire, F-words, Fusion reactors, Grenades, Gum, Guilt imposed on you by your ex, Hedgehogs, hemroids, hockey players, Ion engines, Jack in the box food, kinetic energy, killer bees, linen, locomotives, morose code, melons, Montgomery Burns, name calling, nebula, noogies, and anything you can find in a grocery store or McDonald's.

Stossel was pretty contained with his douchebaggery. He didn't interrupt nearly as often as I have seen him do. He did break out the nonsequitor and hyperbole:

"Greenland was called greenland for a reason"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland

Y2K lumping with the killer bees and the like is stupid.


It seems the media is picking up on the theme...
http://www.jwharrison.com/blog/2006/06/30/john-stossell-is-a-douchebag/

And we shouldn't forget my greatest sifttalk post of all time-
http://politics.videosift.com/talk/John-Stossel-is-a-Douche-Bag

Don't mess with the KILLER BEE!!!!!!

>> ^grinter:
...now, I don't know what I'm going to do when the killer bees come.
Pray for a convenient tornado?

I wouldn't be surprised if this were yet another example of public safety officials feeding the public misinformation because they feel that accurate advice would be too complicated to follow.
of course, the majority of space under many overpasses would be dangerous... but some overpasses will have great little nooks to hide in.
..and even a giant vacuum won't suck someone out unless there is a lot of airflow over them.
There is a Great slide show about this issue here:
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/oun/papers/overpass.html
obviously, the message behind the slide show is that overpasses are a bad place to be in a tornado.. Still, the point is made that construction of the overpass needs to be taken into account:
"Of particular note, the reader's attention should go to the construction of this particular overpass. Note the small crawl space where the underside of the bridge meets the embankment, and the presence of the large girder beam that might provide at least a handhold. The unique construction of this bridge is in stark contrast to the construction of most overpass bridges."
_If I've got a choice between a comfy overpass nook, and a ditch... I'm choosing the nook.
..now, I don't know what I'm going to do when the killer bees come.

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Backstory:

Africanized killer bees, far from the southern hemisphere, hear of a party in the land of Hindu Kush, but upon arriving, find nothing but low Db emissions, coming from opposite the direction of a giant eyeball, with no segmentation.
Attack!