BULLSHIT!

WTC7 was heavily damaged by debris from the collapse of the Towers. Also, the fires were NOT almost all out by the time of the collapse. In fact, they'd spread across multiple floors and were increasing. City engineers examined the structure a half-hour before it collapsed and said it was dangerously unstable. In the middle of the biggest rescue operation in New York history, they had the emergency personnel pull out of the area. Finally, seeing endless replays of building implosions on TV doesn't make you an expert on structural engineering any more than seeing the stars every night makes you an expert on astronomy.

What's w/ the "oh my god" crying in the background? Are they upset because they are thinking they're seeing a man? Why would they cry like that over an implosion?

I dont think the problem was too little explosives, but too much, judging from the angle it landed, the intent was probably to make it fall over, but all sides seemed to crumble.. If the intend was implosion, they'd have wired it all the way up, which seems unlikely because the place seems pretty desolate.

http://www.videosift.com/video/911-Demolitions

http://www.videosift.com/video/WTC-7-Implosion

http://www.videosift.com/video/William-Rodriguez-Janitor-at-the-WTC-on-911-CSPAN

http://www.videosift.com/video/911-conspiracy-theory-debunked

Yeah, let's not forget, shall we????

Let's not forget:
that there are simple, textbook methods for manipulating masses and mobs;

that the easiest ways are usually the most counter-productive and unhealthy;

that the hardest thing to do is stare truth in the face, and deny its existence;

What a waste of resources. Oh well, at least the implosion was cool.

Does anyone know how this works? Is it some kind of chemical reaction causing an implosion?

The big firey cloud is strange....

Well let me thank you for your insight and very rational, heart-felt retort. It starts to feel like a madhouse when surrounded by people who are just desperate to fight reason, logic, and even the laws of nature.

Glad I could lighten the mood for you even if only slightly and momentarily. I'm sure it had to be a difficult anniversary for you, being so close and personally touched by it all.

Cheers.

In reply to this comment by thesnipe:
Thank you for your contribution to this post, it made me feel like I wasn't alone in my thoughts and gave me a very much needed laugh today

-Anthony NREMT-B Hoboken, NJ

In reply to this comment by lucky760:
Oh, right. The genious hypothesis...

I guess the simplest points with which I'd like to end with on the matter are:

1. If there was truly a stand-alone explosion at any point on 9/11 more than a handful of firemen and a janitor would have heard it.


2. If explosives were used to collapse any of the buildings, it would have taken lots and lots more than a single kaboom (that, again, most no one heard) to knock the two towers down. (See video links above in which < 10 story buildings require a long, loud series of detonations to achieve implosion.) If there was a secret military super-bomb that was used, everyone would have heard it. After all, no matter how technologically advanced a bomb might be the laws of physics dictate that the more powerful it is, the louder it is.

I'll stay tuned on this thread and read through everyone else's long replies a little later, but that's pretty much all I'll say. As we are all aware, debating a conspiracy theory is like debating religion or politics, except with conspiracy theories, it's not a matter of opinion but fact that's being proclaimed as correct. No matter how much evidence is or isn't presented, you/we will likely never change your/our opinion.

Consitutional_Patriot, I'm being sincere and not at all pejorative/facetious as I was earlier, so please answer accordingly: Do you believe that humans ever set foot on the moon, or do you believe the moon landing was also a government conspiracy? I'm just curious.

You were inside the tower also?.. where were you in relation to the twin towers when the attack happened?... when did you appear on the scene?.. I know the manhattan area.. I used to live on 89th st.

I'm not claiming that I know for sure what happened. If you all want me to shutup about here, then fine. I'm not exactly making any friends by holding this viewpoint and personally I hope you all are correct and I'm wrong but some things just don't add up and it bothers the hell out of me. If the government wouldn't be so secretive, suppress full and independant investigations, withhold/alter/destroy evidence then I would have never even considered foulplay, but with all this and hearing testimony of account from firsthand responders like that of Mr. Rodriguez while they refused to use his testimony in the release of the analysis, what the hell is one supposed to think?

In reply to this comment by thesnipe:
"So, what do you think about the firefighters and that head janitor that went through the north tower.. he's claiming that a bomb went off about several seconds before the plane hit.. and also claims of people being hurt by some of these explosions... at the base levels.. I'm not making this up.. they were there 1st hand ... reports of multiple explosions from the hero firefighters.. they must be crazy loons huh? What the hell is wrong with you ppl? I suppose you can't get out of the denial phase. This was all over CSPAN two days ago."

I was there too, first hand so don't go disputing the obvious. It's so nice to sit back and think that some guy on youtube has the facts of a conspiracy to demolish a building from a structural engineer standpoint. For this one claim of people saying they heard explosions there are HUNDREDS of others who dispute it first hand. Ya know people who call 9-1-1 reporting that there are gunshots when in fact their neighbor just lit off a firecracker, it's the same damn syndrome. I know people who were there from t minus 1 hour, 99% know what they saw and heard, they decide to stand next to reason as oppossed to claims from some whackjobs without the proper intelligence to analyze an incident that the most elite of our engineers and physicists struggle to determine the magnitude of. Lucky isn't making any shit up, if reason and physics is shit, then your personal attacks stand to clarify your comments at shit as well.

Is it THAT hard to believe that actual physics could come into play and bring down a building exposed to the trauma that WTC 7 did? Noooo it's some secret explosive technology developed in some dark ass lab by engineers who were disgruntled by normal existing technologies and contractors in the field of demolition. And don't start calling me out on the heroism of the firefighters that may have seen or heard these "explosions", I was there and know the agony and display of heroism EVERY single fireman/police officer and EMT went through. In the heat of the moment what a minority of what people think they see and heard can easily be misinterpreted.

Ya know what it probably is, all the people who were there were brainwashed as well by another secret government only technology. That would explain why I, and the hundreds of emergency response workers that were with me want to debunk this conspiracy theory.

Oh yeah and if something I said doesn't make perfect sense, excuse me but it's a difficult day for those who are busy paying respects to the friends and comrades they lost rather than coming up with useless and dumbass theories.

Oh, explosive energy creates hot dust clouds rising like a volcanic eruption. I'm glad they take the time to verse us morons in physics. I was unaware the only possible way a dust cloud could arise from a fallen burning building was from explosives. That makes perfect sense.

Not.


Sorry, chogster, but I must wield the downvote. After six years, I find myself utterly unable to tolerate/entertain videos proliferating this idiocy any longer.

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Just a point further about real, planned implosions. If you watch any of the following, for example:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Landmark-Implosion-Giant-Demolition-37-secs
http://www.videosift.com/video/intel-building-implosion-Austin-Texas
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Implosion-of-a-Sheraton-Hotel
http://www.videosift.com/video/Building-Implosion-I-think-they-were-a-little-too-close
http://www.videosift.com/video/Las-Vegas-Stardust-Hotel-and-Casino-Implosion
http://www.videosift.com/video/Adams-Mark-Hotel-Implosion-from-really-close
it's very obvous that for any intentional explosive-driven implosion there is a series of extremely loud bangs from each set of explosives being detonated sequentially. You know, I even feel stupid even arguing the point because it's such a ridiculous argument to begin with... Ahh, forget it! I'm outta here. I wash my hands of this but good.

http://www.videosift.com/video/Trojan-nuclear-plant-demolished
http://www.videosift.com/video/Trojan-Nuclear-Power-Plant-Cooling-Tower-Implosion-Another-View
http://www.videosift.com/video/Trojan-Nuclear-Plant-Implosion-another-view
http://www.videosift.com/video/Yet-Another-Trojan-Implosion-Angle-Watch-The-Birdie

man this never gets old...."Bring em down!! Bring em all down...nuke Power is a waste of monkey energy compared to the energy technologies that we could be courting with cash, if it were'nt for the assholes of the planet, having to pay attention to bigger assholes

I don't give a toss if you think its relevant to anything at all or not. The claim that buildings are designed with eventual implosion in mind was false and that's all I particularly care about it.

I DARE you to find a single citation in any Universal Building Code that describes such a requirement for implosion. I don't know where you're doing YOU'RE research but I don't consider things like "loose change" to be any more reputable than the raving madman that panhandles down the street.

what bullshit. buildings are never "designed to implode". modern building demolition using implosion didn't even seriously start until the 40s.

The combination of these two comedy titans will generate a core implosion of the Sift and the Earth and the universe. Stand-by for explosive decompression of awesomeness.