I have the same implant as Obama. In fact I saw him coming out of his procedure as I was going into mine. My alien implant's name is Dargrolla the horrible. I have grown totally accustomed to my alien implant. I attribute my easy adjustment to Jagermeister on my Capn' Crunch and having been a vampire for about 13.5 years.

@Lawdeedaw What you're missing is his initial take, his trying to say that you have this window where there is not yet an implanted egg, and that is an ok window to abort, because he says 'an hour after or a day after you're in limbo'

He splits it into two things, 7 months or immediately after, before egg fertilisation. That's his two extremes that he himself says here.

He doesn't give you a week or two, because after that he see it as abortion because he says life begins at conception.

That's what's in this video. A man who says he is against abortion from the point of conception, and the only way out for rape victims he can give in the example that he's saying here, is to do something in that tiny window between the man coming and the sperm reaching the egg.

Yeah, yeay, that's great Ron

2 more thoughts:
1) You know you are a true chemistry pimp if your everyday glasses have eye protecting side splash guards permanently attached to them.
2) When they were first coming up with breast implants, someone had to feel-test prototypes and compare them vs. the real thing so that they could get the correct suppleness.

>> ^siftbot:

This video has already declared quality - ignoring quality request by therealblankman.


Always with the negative waves, Sifty!

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2. A treatment for multiple sclerosis, muscular dystrophy will be developed and brought to market.
3. A new seed-crop hybrid will be developed that grows twice as a fast and is nearly completely disease resistant.
4. Europe will be united under a centralized banking system, headed by the German government.
5. New computing algorithms that adaptively learn will be created, taking the first major step toward AI.
6. An implant that cures paralysis will be developed and brought to market.
7. Wireless data transfer rates will quadruple. Information transmission/reception will move into the K-band of the microwave regime.
8. A new electric motor and transmission design will revolutionize electric motors, leading to a invigorated electric car market.
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10. Lab grown meat will be brought to market.

Myself I consider life to begin at implantation of the fertilized egg.


OK, sorry, you did give your position. But what rational reason do you have for your position? Why implantation instead of fertilization? I mean, if it's just floating around in there and would "without interference" find it's way to the uterine wall, why is it OK to stop it or kill it? Suppose I have a kind of contraceptive that blocks an implanted egg from growing... why is that different than a contraceptive that prevents an egg from fully implanting, or why is it different than one that prevents an egg from implanting at all, or kills it on it's way?

You're making a magic touchdown line, and you could have drawn it 100 other places with exactly the same amount of reason. Sure it's kind of easy to define, but that's like saying that people should go to jail for 10 years because that's a round number. Ease of definition is a sad way to make this kind of judgement.

I think if you want to be rational you have to say humanity is a sliding scale. But, again, the consequences of that are messy and not acceptable to most humans. So we muddle through, trying to come up with arbitrary rules we can live with.

>> ^Jinx:

Pretty sure life begins millions of times in my testicles. It ends by the millions at the end of a condom too. Oh ok, just gametes right? Only "half" murder. Well then life begins when sperm and egg cell meet, but as has already been mentioned here that little bundle of cells doesn't always find itself alive for very long. The body has a rather nasty habit of flushing a fertilized egg out, Women commit infanticide by design. Bitches.
But seriously, the question of when life starts seems fairly simple. The question of when that life becomes sacred, when it becomes capable of suffering, of thought and human intelligence...We can have a debate about how far into pregnancy an abortion should be allowed, argue 1 week in one way or the other and it would be a reasonble and I think worthwhile discussion. Unfortunately the anti-abortion camp isn't reasonable. They pitched their tent in the extremes. The implausbility and insanity of their position is clear. Their assertions are emotional rather than logical and they shoudln't be listened too.


Myself I consider life to begin at implantation of the fertilized egg. The frequency of spontaneous abortion from that point on is radically reduced. None of the every sperm is sacred madness. Most importantly, it is the last clearly definable point I can think of prior birth. An arbitrary, x days, weeks or months just feels exactly that, arbitrary. Barring human intervention an implanted fertilized egg will by born, grow old and die. Sure, it still has the chance of dying naturally before birth, but we don't accept the infant mortality rates when prosecuting child murderers so it hardly seems a valid argument to when a fetus is differentiated as a human.

I'm open to being dissuaded on when life begins, but the lamentations over the consequences of any given definition aren't what I consider valid arguments.

Common sense would dictate that drug companies be allowed to offer deals to terminally ill patients, perhaps in exchange for paying for their care. But the FDA is there to make sure common sense is kept locked away.

Everything you've stated is true, and the fadeouts of these potential 'cures' certainly don't sell papers like hype does.



>> ^bamdrew:

These are costly and typically slow-moving ventures. A lot of waiting for approvals, signing up and weeding through subjects, processing collected data, etc.. Many promising ideas get lost in the ~4-8 years from rodent animal model to large human trials (researchers leave the project following new ideas, funding dries up, etc.).
One trick you'll often see if you look for it is the country the initial human data is collected in; Portugal (and Scandinavian countries to an extent) has laws with a higher tolerance for experimental use of clinically approved devices and devices shown to be biocompatible than the US, so you'll see a group from Purdue in the middle of Indiana gathering data with surgical staff and subjects who are in Portugal.
The study you cite is also surgically invasive, and the obese subjects are not going to be the healthiest people out there... the fear of random health complications can keep project leaders up at night, and can quietly kill a project if they're bad enough. Related to the study you cite, I'm aware of vagal nerve stimulation being researched for treating depression... in other words, systems in the body that seem straightforward often reveal themselves to be a part of complex, intertwined feedback loops.

>> ^quantumushroom:
While far from a conspiracy nut, I notice that fat-reducing products that have great potential (and even actual results) are never seen nor heard from again. In America alone the 'diet industry' is 40 billion a year.

Two I remember:

Intra-abdominal vagal blocking (VBLOC therapy): clinical results with a new implantable medical device
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18549888


There was also a pill that mimicked exercise (stuck at the mouse phase).
Both of these items are from 2007-2008.

These are costly and typically slow-moving ventures. A lot of waiting for approvals, signing up and weeding through subjects, processing collected data, etc.. Many promising ideas get lost in the ~4-8 years from rodent animal model to large human trials (researchers leave the project following new ideas, funding dries up, etc.).

One trick you'll often see if you look for it is the country the initial human data is collected in; Portugal (and Scandinavian countries to an extent) has laws with a higher tolerance for experimental use of clinically approved devices and devices shown to be biocompatible than the US, so you'll see a group from Purdue in the middle of Indiana gathering data with surgical staff and subjects who are in Portugal.

The study you cite is also surgically invasive, and the obese subjects are not going to be the healthiest people out there... the fear of random health complications can keep project leaders up at night, and can quietly kill a project if they're bad enough. Related to the study you cite, I'm aware of vagal nerve stimulation being researched for treating depression... in other words, systems in the body that seem straightforward often reveal themselves to be a part of complex, intertwined feedback loops.


>> ^quantumushroom:

While far from a conspiracy nut, I notice that fat-reducing products that have great potential (and even actual results) are never seen nor heard from again. In America alone the 'diet industry' is 40 billion a year.

Two I remember:

Intra-abdominal vagal blocking (VBLOC therapy): clinical results with a new implantable medical device
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18549888


There was also a pill that mimicked exercise (stuck at the mouse phase).
Both of these items are from 2007-2008.

While far from a conspiracy nut, I notice that fat-reducing products that have great potential (and even actual results) are never seen nor heard from again. In America alone the 'diet industry' is 40 billion a year.


Two I remember:


Intra-abdominal vagal blocking (VBLOC therapy): clinical results with a new implantable medical device

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18549888




There was also a pill that mimicked exercise (stuck at the mouse phase).

Both of these items are from 2007-2008.

>> ^Payback:

>> ^deathcow:
Oprah would buy two of these for everyone in the audience. People would look oddly at each other for a moment....(Wtf.. We're not deaf!) Then the audience doors SLAM shut, and are locked from the other side. One by one her surgical team drags screaming women out onto the stage where the implants are put in without anesthesia.

My friend, I seldom agree with anything you type... but I'd stand in line to see that movie.


I feel sad and happy at the same time!

>> ^deathcow:

Oprah would buy two of these for everyone in the audience. People would look oddly at each other for a moment....(Wtf.. We're not deaf!) Then the audience doors SLAM shut, and are locked from the other side. One by one her surgical team drags screaming women out onto the stage where the implants are put in without anesthesia.


My friend, I seldom agree with anything you type... but I'd stand in line to see that movie.

Oprah would buy two of these for everyone in the audience. People would look oddly at each other for a moment....(Wtf.. We're not deaf!) Then the audience doors SLAM shut, and are locked from the other side. One by one her surgical team drags screaming women out onto the stage where the implants are put in without anesthesia.

A wonderful outcome, and yes, I cried a bit there. Personally I would either donate that $30,000 to another deaf person who couldn't afford an implant, or perhaps take the money to pay back mom (she deserves it) and try to convince the company to give the second implant to someone else, perhaps. But even if they don't do something like that there's a lot of love here.