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National Geographic Channel Presents The Human Footprint

notarobot says...

>> ^bamdrew:
I knew a kid in highschool who drank 2 liters of coca cola every day.
he got headaches when he didn't drink at least 1 liter.


I wonder if he never drank anything else? I had friends who used to drink only pop or milk, never water or juice. They weren't very healthy. Most of them have gotten over their aversion to H2o.

2008 was the year man-made global warming was disproved (Worldaffairs Talk Post)

fissionchips says...

>> ^blankfist:
Some say the human footprint is too small to account for a significant change in global climate and carbon increase, while other scientists claim human activity makes up the majority of carbon emissions.

The "climate debate" may be framed in these terms, but this is a repetition of a false dichotomy. I have to draw on some numbers to illustrate this point:

While human activity only releases 5% as much CO2 as earth’s systems circulate, 57% of our emissions are beyond what can be absorbed by the ocean surface and by plants. The result is a 0.5% increase in atmospheric CO2 levels each and every year.

So, while human activity is not the dominant source of CO2, it is the largest variable source, making it the primary driver of climate change. The same argument applies for land use changes even more so.

2008 was the year man-made global warming was disproved (Worldaffairs Talk Post)

blankfist says...

The rise in C02 isn't created solely by human activity.

There's a debate going on right now as to whether humans cause the majority of the increased carbon in the atmosphere, or whether natural causes (such as volcanoes, vegetation, etc.) are to blame. Some say the human footprint is too small to account for a significant change in global climate and carbon increase, while other scientists claim human activity makes up the majority of carbon emissions.

Who to believe? It truly is a frustrating scientific debate, and if we are responsible for the majority of carbon emissions in this world, I'd be the first person to embrace a "green" change. Until then, it's discouraging to see self-righteous greenies pushing their agenda as being conclusive.

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National Geographic Channel Presents The Human Footprint

The most important, and boring, video you'll ever see

fissionchips says...

Bartlett has a poor understanding of population dynamics, S-curves, carrying capacity, and a raft of other important models. His power laws are simply bad science.

That said, he's certainly right that people don't understand how population growth and economic growth multiply to create today's overwhelmingly large human footprint.

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