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Father puts daughter through terrifying ordeal

The Cornfield Bomber - Yesterday's Air Force

kceaton1 says...

Well, I guess I should have said: "for that model of plane". But, it might be better just to retire that plane, if it's prone to flat-spins...

As I whole-heartedly agree with you. When you design/engineer craft that will fly, try to make it do as much as what your "user" (a.k.a. the pilot) would want it to do. I'm sure not being able to recover their plane from any kind of spin would be high on the list, as they'll always want to have full control of the craft (as I would to).

oritteropo said:

It's probably better to design aeroplanes that are a little less prone to getting into an unrecoverable flat spin situation in the first place, which was the approach taken by the USAF .

The Cornfield Bomber - Yesterday's Air Force

oritteropo says...

It's probably better to design aeroplanes that are a little less prone to getting into an unrecoverable flat spin situation in the first place, which was the approach taken by the USAF .

kceaton1 said:

BTW, somebody mentioned to me that the plane more than likely was helped out by the counter-action of the *kick* it would have received when the pilot ejected from the cockpit. I fully agree with this and it was something I initially missed for a bit.

So, instead--using what I said; do the same thing, but add a countermeasure device on the topside that "fires" off --exactly like a pilot ejecting--though it may need a tad more force, since the pilot is still in the plane--and perhaps everything will work out.

We can all have our pipe-dreams...

The Cornfield Bomber - Yesterday's Air Force

kceaton1 says...

I must say, maybe the the procedure from now on to recover from an "unrecoverable" flat spin in that jet is this: let go of the controls and act as though you've ejected from the craft... That is amazing! Great story.

*promote (So all the morning people have something fun to watch!)
&
*WTF

"Cornfield Bomber"

Pilot in fighter jet ejects SECONDS before crash in Canada

rich_magnet says...

Looks like a tip stall into a flat spin. I don't know how often this happens to F-18s but when doing a super-slow, super-low high-alpha maneuver like this, it's about as likely as ever. Maybe he was just a wee bit too slow, a wee bit too pitched-up and way too low. Good to know nobody was hurt.

Amazing MIG-29 OVT maneuverability demonstration

Wake Up! Snoozedoctor is Gold100! (Livemusic Talk Post)

snoozedoctor says...

^
congrats, doc!

a recent favorite from your queue:

http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Right-Stuff-the-crash-of-the-NF-104

If you ever want to feel like a true whimp, read "Yeager" the autobiography. I get nervous merging into freeway traffic.

"Hello, air-traffic control. I'm in a flat spin and falling like a rock. Would you order a pizza and have a beer ready when I get down. I ate a light breakfast. Hang on, I see the ground now, I'd better eject. Don't come get me, I'll catch a cab back to the airfield."

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