You bring up some good points, but I learned about leaders in the Middle East denying the holocaust a long time ago. It wasn't propaganda, I heard it straight from the horses mouth in speeches and such.

My good friend Sadiq Husseinzada has text books from Pakistan and from Iran. He grew up in Pakistan. I don't read Farsi so I'm taking his word for it, but he told me that they teach that the Holocaust is a debatable event.

The fact that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is an Anti-Semite is not in question, nor is the fact that he's kinda cooky. That being said, I don't think we should EVER go into a country to prevent something from happening. That's like arresting somebody that expresses hatred toward 7-11 because you thought they might someday rob one.

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^Even if that were true, it wouldn't make the mass murder of Iranians any less of a holocaust.

The 'wipe Israel off the face of the map' canard this is pure propaganda.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NOR20070120&articleId=4527

I'm going to check on the text book thing and get back to you. Just keep in mind that there is a major propaganda campaign underway to dehumanize Iran and justify an attack. I'd suggest you be more skeptical about government/corporate media claims about Iran.

Reality check. Did you fall for WMD's and yellow cake?

Well, I have some friends who speak Farsi (one from Iran, one from Turkey who was raised multilingual) and have crazy last names, so I've had a discussion about pronunciation before. Over lunch they were telling me that regionally the 'ahh-' sound starting off a name like Ahmad can be pronounced 'ahhx-mad' where the 'x' is a slight back-of-the-tongue "hacking" sound we don't use in english (I think they do it in Hebrew and Arabic, though), but typically it just sounds like 'AHH-mad', but with the back of the tongue touching the top of the mouth to cut off the 'AHH-'. Anyhow, I've heard other press people say it with a 'k'... still not right, apparently.


... lets see... how about this one... ah, yeah, there we go, skip over to about 4:45min in; http://youtube.com/watch?v=O1ec2uRVDNM

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Listen to how everyone pronounces his name.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9HwEVJ1w0NM

Romney is correct.

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throws a 'k' in as he stutters through Iran's President's name... "Awkmend'denejad"

ah-maw-den-nay-jawd

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Is that Farsi Choggie?

Besides this video and it's content.

I really love the Farsi language, as it forms the linguistic basis of my own mother tongue. It takes me back every time I hear it spoken.

This is the Beatles of Central Asia, this is what I used to listen to when I was but a wee lad.

The song is called Uchkuduk, which in my country is a city, the name translates as "three draw-wells". The song is about a desert expedition seeking shelter at at the "three draw-wells"... he starts... "Hot sun, hot sand, hot lips, oh for a drop of water, hot deserts where footsteps are not seen, tell me caravan man when will there be water?... And the chorus goes "Uchkuduk! The 3 wells! Save us! Save us! Save us from the sun! You are the desert saviour Uchkuduk". Prolly sifting for myself but whatever.

"Yalla," the leading popular music group in the former Soviet central Asian republics, is from Tashkent -- the capital of Uzbekistan, one of the newly independent states of the former Soviet Union. The group, whose name is an Uzbek word for a song accompanied by dancing, has become a popular icon in Uzbekistan, frequently serving as cultural ambassadors to international festivals or meetings abroad.

The members of Yalla are graduates of the Ostrovsky Theatrical Art Institute and the Ashrafi State Conservatory in Tashkent. They are not Russian but Uzbek, a Turkic nationality from the crossroads of the ancient Silk Road. Their music incorporates traditional ethnic folk tunes and poetry of Uzbekistan and other Central Asian and Middle Eastern cultures, along with contemporary pop and dance influences, into a unique international blend. They perform songs in more than 10 languages, including Arabic, Farsi, Hindi, Nepalese and French as well as Uzbek and Russian.

Formed in the early 1970's, Yalla has appeared on Soviet national television as well as performing in Moscow and elsewhere in the Soviet Union, and on concert tours in Europe, Africa, Asia and Latin America, including featured appearances at the "Voice of Asia" festival.

http://ip1.com/imagina/artists/Yalla.html

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Do we have many Sifters who can read Farsi?

QM, most of the population of the world hates Bush - he's the REAL enemy.

>>> "Most of the world" is either run by despots who would have you and your entire family killed for looking at them funny, or by European ponces who believe the State has more rights than the individual, which means they own you and can take everything from you if and when they feel like it.

>>> Europe has two choices, awaken from its socialist haze or get used to bowing 5 times a day, as arriving hordes of Muslim immigrants slowly kill off Western Civilization there.

>>>>> The governments of the rest of the world, minus a few ballzout allies like Japan, suck. Without America to stand up for what is right, the entire world would already be speaking German, Russian or Farsi.


I pity those of you who continue to support the "Asses Of Evil" (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld), because one day you're finally going to have to admit to yourselves what unbelievable fools you were.

>>>> Your pity is wasted. I think the War on Terror will eventually end in a way similar to the Cold War. At the 'end of the day,' when islamofascism is crushed to irrelevancy, the (phony) peaceniks will finally admit the enemy was, in fact, evil, and pretend they were for the war all along (a lot of American liberals today pretend to have been Cold Warriors).

>>>> I blame the American government school system for the ignorance of American youth regarding American history. From grade school forward they (you?) were taught to always blame America first and see things though an anti-American prism. It's a disgrace.

>>>> We were not given a choice by muslim extremists to peacefully coexist. Now they will reap the holy fire they so richly deserve.