It's not like he went reaaaaaaaaaally deep into the volcano? Just a few metres. So the angle of attack is nothing dramatic.

Make no mistake and means no disrespect -- it's extremely dangerous and takes guts -- but it's not "difficult" for a pro to do right?

I hope they make it detect people on their phones too. That’s apparently more dangerous than drunk driving…..
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), driving a vehicle while texting is six times more dangerous than intoxicated driving. The Transport Research Laboratory found that writing a text message slows driver reactions by 35 percent, while drinking alcohol up to the legal limit slows reactions by 12 percent. Another study stated that texting drivers react 23 percent slower than intoxicated drivers do.

Yes, that is what I meant, as soon as he was approaching with an openly carried gun, wild west rules as I understand them say the moment he attempts to aim at anyone he is open game for anyone who can draw faster.

If you desperately want to live in the wild west that is.

I am totally lost on whether I should be using the sarcasm button on these posts. I am being sarcastic. I believe some form of gun limiting federal law is the only way out of this mess. But then the sarcasm does not make my claim invalid.

I knew an american who came to Prague (turns out he is still here and is still a film producer) who would carry his gun around all the time and randomly pull it out and show it to people at business meetings and in pubs. I thought at the time (early 90s) dude this is SO embarassing. Regular manners in a civilized society since roman times dictate that people do not carry weapons unless danger is imminent. You only carry weapons if you are directly employed to be in dangerous situations, otherwise you are putting yourself and others in danger and appear to be a reckless fool.

So if the USofA consider themselves the wild west to this day, then it is understandable that Kyle was let go, and I say disarm him or shoot him before he shoots you.

Hit him with that skateboard, only harder!

You always have to omit the important bits….and skew the rest. “ kid falls , His gun faces the guy” not “kid flees a crime scene, falls, and AIMS and shoots his rifle at multiple people, hitting two more and killing one of them”.

Kid chases, threatens, and murders man. Kid flees the scene of his crime, pointing his gun at anyone he sees. Kid falls. Man approaches. Kid’s gun faces dozens of people as he’s aiming at anyone near him. Kid shoots randomly at multiple people including some running away from him. Kid takes aim at the closest one, gun misfires, kid inspects and reracks gun while continuing to aim at the man who is reaching to detain him not trying to hit him or shoot him, and shoots him at point blank range even though no gun is EVER aimed at him….at one instant the victim’s gun is held in such a way that it’s within 45 degrees of being pointed in the direction of the thug/armed child whose gun is constantly aimed at him, but the victim’s gun is never aimed nor pointed AT him.

Liar.

You just can’t be honest…. your fault because your hyper biased and totally dishonest (to the point they’ve all successfully argued in court that no reasonable person could believe their obviously made up hyperbole, but you still do) “sources” never tell you the truth and you continue to act as if only they tell the truth.

Such a blatant racist race baiter. I know why your kids don’t like you. If Rittenhouse was black and/or a Democrat, you would be screaming bloody murder and calling for his immediate execution by firing squad, and prison for any who stand with him.

Federal prosecutors won’t file charges citing insufficient evidence that the officer willfully violated federal civil rights statutes (because the police stonewalled and didn’t give them evidence), NOT because shooting a man 7 times in the back because he had a knife but police approached within arms length anyway, intentionally putting themselves in harms way to create a position where they could claim they were in danger is a good shoot, but because they couldn’t prove it was a civil rights case with the police hiding their evidence and stonewalling federal investigators.

Nah, he was illegally "defending" property that didn't belong to him (silly Wisconsin values human lives [even 'thugs'] more than used cars).

He was illegally practicing medicine by soliciting people and asking if they needed first aid. WI code allows for unlicensed medicine practice in an emergency ONLY (how do we know he was offering services absent an emergency? He was turned down repeatedly, aka there was no emergency where someone needed forst aid). Walking around offering first aid services is illegal without a license. https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/448/ii/03

He illegally purchased a firearm through his uncle because he was under age.

He illegally was out past curfew for people 17 and under.

Gee, given all his lack of training and experience and maturity, I wonder why these things are illegal? Oh right, because someone so immature and ignorant of the law or disobedient of the law is more likely to be dangerous and kill someone when it's not warranted.


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You can't escape the fact that WI law dictates that if he's already doing anything illegal he MUST exhaust all other reasonable options BEFORE using deadly force.

HE DID NOT DO SO. Someone fired a round in the air, someone lunged, and he killed em. Tangeal witnesses hear "he shot someone!" And give chase. He kills another. Why no empathy for the people who suspected he was a "thug" and tried to vigilante justice him?



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It's really ugly to witness the duality of your flippant attitude towards people trying to legally claim asylum 'they broke the law' because they went to the wrong entry point because they speak fucking Portuguese and don't always know exactly where they are out in the Mexico desert.
Vs the bizarre justification you're trying to make for this kid who 'broke the law' in, I contend, a series of more serious laws that warrant criminal liability.

If this kid gets off I hope he moves to NC and you run into him once he gets his highway patrol car. You can have him.

I'll take the family in Afghanistan I'm trying to help who, you know, don't get off on killing people.

So, Bob. What about the victim’s right to defend themself from an armed aggressor who had followed them for blocks and was confronting him with weapon cocked and at the ready? He should have shot Rittenhouse in the head when he allegedly pointed, but didn’t shoot his gun, right? That would have solved everything, no charges to be brought, no lawsuit for pedonazi’s parents, no harm, no foul, right? Pure self defense, not even a need to report it, right?

Rittenhouse hunted him for blocks. Chasing him down with an assault rifle as the victim retreated. Then murdered him when he stopped running away. Just want it on the record, you think that’s fine, as is shooting anyone who tries to stop you from leaving the scene of a murder you just committed. Go on. Say it. It’s fine to hunt and kill people you don’t like.
Now…is it fine if the shooter is black and the victim is a baby faced white Republican boy? Pretty sure I know the real answer already.

Trumpist crowds are dangerous and criminal. If they need to get shot up by liberals who get scared by their aggressiveness….. self defense! Aim for the head, guys, and claim you tried a non deadly area to shoot. There’s nothing up there to hurt.

Eh, it's debatable still

Here's the WI state code as that would apply here
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/939/iii/48

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Some likely applicable law from that link
From SUBCHAPTER III
DEFENSES TO CRIMINAL LIABILITY
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A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself.
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> It's not up to the witnesses to determine if the actions were reasonable or not, that's a question for the jury.

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"engage in unlawful conduct likely to provoke others to attack"

"Provocation affects the privilege of self-defense as follows:
(a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.
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>excerpted/emphasized (tldnr)
>"engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack...is NOT entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense...person is NOT privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant UNLESS the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape

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He was able to run away... And while someone shot into the air they didn't shoot at HIM or point a gun at him. And the person who shot into the air isn't the one who lunged at him.

Seriously, what kind of world do you want to live in @bobknight33 ?? You want MF 17 year olds to be able to walk around with assault rifles and if you stutter-step at the wrong moment they can vigilante justice your ass ? And if that happens well they can just say

They ban dangerous liars spreading dangerous lies. Are you saying all conservatives are dangerous liars? Something we agree on!

Fuck you Trump. Adults don’t need idiotic dog whistling slogans, we have the balls and spine to say what we mean, not play pre-preschool games. It is nice of you all to create a slogan that identifies the morons not worth including in adult discussions. It saves a lot of time listening to your ilk, we can just put you at the kids table and ignore you. Keep it up, kid.

Jesus Fuck! Last year Trump tried to invade Mexico and start a war on the Southern border by sending 250000 troops to the border with instructions to follow cartel smugglers back into Mexico and murder them there. Thank our lucky stars someone realized how illegal and dangerous his plan was and stopped it, or the Southern states would all be Mexico now and America would be a new world pariah.

Can’t wait for the Jan 6 report. Ex presidents don’t have executive privilege, Trump’s actions will come to light, and that will prove you support an anti American traitor who attempted a coup.

It also came to light the extent of some of his tax frauds. Just one instance, one golf course he owned was valued for taxes at $15 million. He insisted that was an outrageous inflation, it was only worth $1.5 million, and he sued repeatedly to get the taxed value lowered. At the same time, 2015 and after, he listed it as an asset when filling out financial disclosure forms to run for president, there he listed the value as well over $50 million (for credit purposes). That’s both tax and bank fraud, and just one of hundreds of felonious frauds he perpetrated for decades. Daddy Trump will likely die in prison.

Poorly trained, undisciplined.

Their exit from the van was horribly insecure. If there were shooters on the roof for an ambush every officer would have been dead.

It's amazing to see how these bullies turn into a bunch of scared little kids at the sign of danger then when they see they still have power they have zero empathy for fellow human beings.

It’s equivalent to giving a monitor lizard a mouse, or a giant snake a rabbit. Have you ever seen large reptiles being fed?

A grown person could feed a large raptor for days, longer if it’s cold. The idea that dinosaurs only ate other large dinosaurs comes from Hollywood, not paleontologists or animal behaviorists. Smaller prey is both less dangerous and much easier to digest. Carrion is even better.

My monitor, nearly 4 ft long, preferred multiple mice to a rat, and hunted small anole lizards too….now that’s like hunting a cracker crumb, and it loved to do it.

P.S. Jurassic Park dinosaurs preferred to eat old male lawyers over blond females.

Our society also cant handle cow burps.

Releasing dangerous chemicals, knowingly against established rules, into water, is one thing (a crime).

Banning materials just because they share some chemistry with said chemicals is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

They're not "illegal immigrants" if they're refugees. Refugees are leaving another country seeing refuge because they are in danger. It's a legal (hence, not illegal) policy adopted by the united states post WWII because we decided after the fact that we didnt take in enough jewish refugees seeking asylum before the holocaust.

Simply calling these people illegal flies in the face of US law. You, sir, are being anti-American when you falsely claim something is illegal when that is simply not the case.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1225#b



And how exactly is it Biden's fault that there was a crazy hurricane that hit Haiti following a deadly attack on their president?

Sweet Zombie Jebus...
The hospital that treated her is now the subject of dozens (or more) terroristic death threats, and a threat of a lawsuit from some of Trump's lawyers, because they didn't just treat her with cattle dewormer.

Your people, @bobknight33, terrorists making death and bomb threats to doctors killing themselves treating almost exclusively right wing assholes who won't get vaccinated.

They should be turned away at the door, go home to your family and die. Their stupidity and inaction caused their illness. I fully support no hospitalization without a covid passport...it's too dangerous, they have immunocompromised people in there they should protect from the intentionally infectious. Put them in a camp like they suggest for immigrants....Better, ship them to Mexico with a lengthy process to return after they're covid free.

Don't count the unvaccinated, and Covid is under control.

and interestingly being a police officer isn't that dangerous of a job despite the fearmongering the scared little boys try and peddle

https://medium.com/technology-taxes-education-columns-by-david-grace/being-a-police-officer-is-not-even-in-the-top-10-most-dangerous-jobs-1e985540c38a