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>> ^Boise_Lib:

Remember sweetheart smile real big--or Daddy and Mommy go back to the work camps.


How is this in the cute channel? Because cuteness comes even in immense sorrow

Pretty tame for a childrens' show.

>> ^Payback:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/rychan" title="member since June 20th, 2007" class="profilelink">rychan
I wasn't trying to compare the crimes but rather the enforcement mechanisms -- the idea that because a reasonable person wouldn't do it, we don't need law enforcement of it. That's clearly not a compelling argument.
Child abuse is obviously terrible. So is heroin use, though. It kills 100,000 people every year...
The point I was trying to make is, he wasn't saying there should be no laws. He even mentioned that even the 1st amendment has rules, that you can't injure or defame others. He believes that your personal choices should be your own.
If someone injures another, like your child abuse analogy, then he believes there SHOULD be consequences and laws. If your heroin junkie breaks into someone's home to steal money, then he should go to jail for burglary, not being an addict. If he holds a knife to your kid's throat to get their lunch money, he should be jailed for assault with deadly weapon, not because he has a used needle in his back pocket.


How is polling the audience supporting that argument? He was making two arguments (at least), one of which was the "reasonable person" argument which I think is baloney. You could apply the same argument to a horrible crime like child abuse.

His _other_ argument which you highlight -- the right to personal freedom -- is much more persuasive. I agree it is THE fundamental argument on this topic, and nobody should believe that it's a slam dunk argument either way.

I think entr0py's argument is compelling. Drugs like heroin are an overly tempting way to ruin your life. It's not a matter of intelligence or education -- one of the most interesting anti-smoking studies found that teenagers actually OVERestimate the danger of smoking. But they still do it, anyway. Virtually everyone who smokes started as a teenager. People simply do stupid things which are against their self interests and society's interest. So I don't want to see heroin regulated the way cigarettes are. That's not sufficient. Anyway, this is the "should government protect you from yourself" argument which some people find repugnant. I take it you are one of them. You don't care if 15% of every high school class dies from heroin abuse because on their 18th birthday they get access to plentiful, cheap heroin. I'm not saying that would be the case, I'm just saying that a strict believer in personal freedom would be fine with this.

Also I think we should worry about preventing crime, not punishing it. Yes, we could offer a young mother lots of heroin and wait until her child neglect becomes actionable by the state, but why let a family be ruined? You're right, her actions would snowball to the point of being illegal without making the drug itself illegal. That doesn't really reassure me much.

Maybe such problems wouldn't be widespread if all drugs were legalized. But they're already fairly common, and I don't see how legalizing everything would make them rarer.

Are you really OK with living next door to a house full of heroin addicts? having them offer your children heroin? Watching them spiral in to filth while they lose self control? Seeing their children show up at the bus stop unwashed and starving? And having the police tell you "Well, they haven't done anything illegal yet. Clearly this situation will crash and burn shortly, but we should definitely stand at the sidelines and watch. We wouldn't want to infringe on anyone's personal freedoms". Or maybe child services is more on the ball and the children end up in state custody sooner rather than later, so it's a happy ending? So maybe children and parents aren't allowed to use these drugs but other people can? And maybe nobody who operates heavy machinery? And certainly not schoolteachers.

It just seems like a useless exercise to me to try to give people the freedom to use a drug like heroin when it will only cause terrible repercussions.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Why would he "die"?
If he can breathe in space he can breathe underwater.


That is a little bit to literal especially considering the asteroid attained consciousness and a neck less/leg less body evolves and swirls through atmospheres dodging clouds.

at least thats how some people have told me when I dont understand childrens shows.

LOL this had me in tears!!!

Looks like bunch of stoners got lazy one day, watched too many reruns of children shows, didn't bother to change the channel, and after watching 11 hours of it they thought "hey, we should make our own children show!"

Wait... It says they're from brooklyn... That means...

HIPSTERS!!!!!!!! GOD FUCKING DAMN HIPSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!

When people object to videos like this I always wonder why they dont want this to be seen, as I do. Is it because the reality of war is so vicious and cruel its hard to stomach. I often am upset, angry and left feeling helpless when I see the horrors of war or the unjust way we the citizens our treated by our own government. I say bring on the dead children, show the abuse of the police and there non lethal tazers. Maybe if we see enough of it we will actually get off our fat asses and write a letter, go to a protest, vote. All I know is my government seems to be leading the way when it comes to the killing of people around the globe,and often I feel sad and ashamed that I havent done more to stop it.

Its funny how manny people might percive this kid as being more interlectual than a kid that is pro at a game ddr,deathmatch,pong

in the end if sumone has an incaling of ability at something and then has the motivation ( ore parents) to make them practise then thay will most likely get good at it.

It impresses me when children show creative ability say she writes and played her own song then i wud be impressed. i guess u can argue the vairations on how u play a peace of music show creativity. anny way stop posting clips of kids that are better at things than me