Looks to me like the preamble to a justification for raising broadband prices.

I think no matter how good my broadband its always not quite good enough. ONE DROPPED PACKET OUT OF 10,000.

Really I don't care much about bandwidth, its latency and the quality and reliability of the connection I am after. I would be happy on like, 1mb if its got good routing, pings well to the rest of europe and doesn't drop packets or fluctuate wildly. Videogames don't really require that much bandwidth

I'm on BE Broadband atm, and honestly I'm super impressed with the quality considering its built on aging telecom infrastructure. Very affordable too. When I was living in student digs I forked out for fibre optic cable because the alternatives were awful and while the bandwidth was great it was extremely unreliable. Headaches of new tech or just a bad business...

I was paying 35e a month for 25Mb broadband in Dublin. Apparently you can now get up 100Mb for 65e.

We're a few years behind the times in Ireland as a whole because our major telecom company was bought up by venture capitalists shortly after being floated on the stock market by the government (for the sake of competition).

Very eloquently put. I award you one point.

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>> ^LarsaruS:

>> ^blankfist:
One word: government.

HAHA! Non-statist idiots!


This seems to be more a case of statist non-idiots, not non-statist idiots.

politics

>> ^marinara:

paying $60 per month for 768 kilobits here in the USA.


Well I have 100/100 Mbit fiber for about 38 dollars a month. Unlimited of course... I could download 20 TB a month and they wouldn't and couldn't touch my connection. Go Sweden. This is broadband as it is meant to be.

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>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^LarsaruS:
>> ^blankfist:
One word: government.

HAHA! Non-statist idiots!

This seems to be more a case of statist non-idiots, not non-statist idiots.
politics


Think they meant non(statist-idiots)

Amsterdam:
Ubiquitous broadband.
Public nudity.
Legalized Pot and Hash.

BOW DOWN!

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Not true. BF is my FB BFF. >> ^blankfist:

>> ^dag:
I already posted this to BF's Facebook

We're not facebook friends.

>> ^dag:

I already posted this to BF's Facebook


We're not facebook friends.

>> ^aaronfr:

The actual problem is the ability and willingness of the telecoms to sue to keep competition away. Owning all the pipes, while it may be perceived as a monopoly and obstruction to competition, does not satisfactorily explain the problem. I say this because in Germany all of the the pipes are owned by Deutsche Telecom, but it is government regulations that allow for competition. As a result, internet is cheaper and faster as pointed out by TheGenk. Go ahead, own the pipes, but allow for fair use of them and lease them to anyone willing to pay, and the problem will not be so acute.

This is true and at the beginning Deutsche Telekom faught against the usage of their pipes with various methods, but got slapped into submission by court rulings and the government.

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The actual problem is the ability and willingness of the telecoms to sue to keep competition away. Owning all the pipes, while it may be perceived as a monopoly and obstruction to competition, does not satisfactorily explain the problem. I say this because in Germany all of the the pipes are owned by Deutsche Telecom, but it is government regulations that allow for competition. As a result, internet is cheaper and faster as pointed out by TheGenk. Go ahead, own the pipes, but allow for fair use of them and lease them to anyone willing to pay, and the problem will not be so acute.


>> ^dag:

I already posted this to BF's Facebook - but this is where the action is - my selected comments:
There's no chance for competition when the massive telecom corporations own all the pipes into the home and sue to prevent any further competition. (See most muni-broadband projects) http://arstechnica.com/tech-
policy/news/2010/11/the-price-of-muni-broadband-eternal-war-with-time-warner-cable.ars
Read the above article and tell me again how if only the free market was left unfettered we'd have competition in broadband. What a load of bull. The major controlling corporations have no interest in competition.
How is it government's fault? The big telcos gobbled up the little Baby Bells with no regulation from the FTC, hogging all the infrastructure and lobbying / suing any organization that challenged their primacy. How do you blame the government for this?


>> ^TheGenk:

>> ^marinara:
paying $60 per month for 768 kilobits here in the USA.

Outch!
For 30€ you get 100mbit internet and telephone flatrate here in Germany, time to move

>> ^campionidelmondo:

>> ^JiggaJonson:
>> ^blankfist:
One word: government.

By that do you mean a lot of government regulations working well to benefit the people instead of letting big businesses Cleavland-steamer every one of us into financial ruin???
If so, I agree. Government.

It's true. The Government opened up the market, which is why we now enjoy fast and cheap broadband (I pay $20/month for 50mbit plus phone).


Well you get better than me. UK's garbage for broadband and is known in europe for being that way. Popular broadband company BeThere (subsidiary of o2 i believe) offers £17.99 (that's about 30(+2?) dollars?) for maximum 24 Mbit, and what you actually get depends entirely on your local exchange, they guarantee absolutely nothing. They say up to, and they mean up to. I know people who pay for "up to" 8 Mbit and get around 2.

Oh, and it's not unlimited. Most "unlimited" broadband in the UK has fair usage policies and the majority of those boil down to a hard download cap.

The worst ones? They offer things like £7 per month but a download limit of 5 gigs per month, with 5 gig topups being another 7 quid. Rediculous things like that. People who don't read up and shop around really do get the utter shaft, and even those who DO read up and shop around don't get good deals. Most of them are even owned by the same damned company too.

They're notoriously bad at administration. When my previous provider got taken over by another company, that company "renewed" my broadband contract for 12 months for DOUBLE the price i was preiously paying. They didn't tell me about the new contract though, so when i cancelled it suddenly they charged my bank for £300 contract termination fee. I didn't have £300 so the bank issued a £20 charge. Then i made another payment (thinking i still had that extra £20) and got charged £20 AGAIN and now i started getting charged for being in arrears too.

I phoned them and it took me a few days to even get rid of the 12 month contract i'd been volunteered into, getting them to pay all the charges (and phone call charges) took a good few weeks work but i was absolutely incandescent with rage.

Er, rant over! In other words, it's not all sunshine and smiles over here, broadband in the UK stinks.

>> ^JiggaJonson:

>> ^blankfist:
One word: government.

By that do you mean a lot of government regulations working well to benefit the people instead of letting big businesses Cleavland-steamer every one of us into financial ruin???
If so, I agree. Government.


It's true. The Government opened up the market, which is why we now enjoy fast and cheap broadband (I pay $20/month for 50mbit plus phone).