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RT - Tripolis may or may not be about to fall to the Rebels

bcglorf says...

>> ^Pprt:

I love how gullible westerners always assume the rebels are the good guys.


And I hate how people are stupid and/or selfish enough that they can't see the good in the end of one of the most horrific dictatorships in history.

Libyan Rebels take control of Tripoli's Green Square

Hugh Grant Owns Journalist - Exposes Media Phone Hacking

Mammaltron says...

>> ^Hybrid:

Breaking News: The News of the World newspaper is being shut down. Last issue this weekend. The UK's biggest newspaper, having run for 168 years, being shut down over this scandal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14070733


The Murdochs are worried by how far this one is backfiring on them. So they'll 'close' the paper mostly staffed by people who weren't there when all this hacking happened. They'll reassign the writers (not journalists) which they want to keep elsewhere, and probably expand another of their titles to fill the gap.

Complete PR exercise.

Hugh Grant Owns Journalist - Exposes Media Phone Hacking

Hugh Grant Owns Journalist - Exposes Media Phone Hacking

BREAKING NEWS - Arnie's back! (Actionpack Talk Post)

Aggressive Shoelicker - What The Holy Hell?

Stupid People - F*ck Everything About Them!

The same story over and over (News Talk Post)

Shepppard says...

@BoneRemake

The whole point of videosift is to "sifit" out the worst videos of the internet. Granted, I understand the "Just don't vote for it" mindset, but I see this as a sort of loophole.

Puppies and kitties may be everywhere, but generally they're not doing the exact same thing, you can see distinct differences between Kitty video A, and Kitty Video B. A good example is the Maru box collection, it's a cat jumping in/on boxes every video, but the substance is different for each one. If it was a video where the only difference was Maru coloured brown then I'd tend to agree with your point.

News videos are tricky however. It's content is the same, the only difference is a backdrop. What's to stop me from posting a video of a local news agency, a national news agency, and an independant news agency all covering the same thing? Nothing. All three videos will be telling me the same thing, but because it's from a different one/two people talking about it, so it's not a dupe. Do all three convey the same message? Yes. Do all three need to be on here saying that same message? no.

What that means is that when there's a "Breaking news story" much like the Osama is dead story, we'll see umpteen billion videos all titled the same telling us the same thing. This does two things, 1) It clutters up the front page, which is honestly not that big a deal, but it means other more deserving videos won't get the views and votes they deserve. And 2) It'll make actually searching for the one you want to see somewhere down the road a nightmare.

I see potential for "Sifting" here, the original video is treated like the original for Dupes, if someone finds a video they think is better in a dupe, the original embed gets replaced with the better one. That way there's no clutter, and the video that videosift has of the story is "the best"

The dupe thing that is currently being discussed is about rewarding the person who creates the dupe, which I personally don't think is right, that only leads to people posting dupes on purpose.

This again, is just me seeing this as a loophole being exploited, and I'm bringing it to peoples attentions. I'll gladly discuss it in a civil manner, preferably without name calling or insult slinging, and I welcome your input on the matter.

Breaking News: US Directly Taking Sides in Libyan Civil War

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Breaking News: US Directly Taking Sides in Libyan Civil War

NetRunner says...

>> ^blankfist:

But then again usually the statist idiot comment is on a video that has something to do with a failure of the statist system, so #2 is certainly not broken.


Not really. Usually you break it out for when some individual who works for the state does something against the law for him to do. There are always going to be people who break the law, or choose to to immoral things.

It might be appropriate if it was a video about someone doing something bad, then getting a slap on the wrist for it (which would actually be the system failing). But you don't like those videos, because the anger it inspires makes people want to make the system better, and that just doesn't serve your agenda. You like it better if you can take advantage of people's shock and horror over abuse of power to ram your "free market" doctrine down people's throats.

(And yes, that's a plug for Naomi Klein's book The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, which is available now on Amazon for $19.95 + S/H and applicable taxes, order now and you'll be able to get No Logo: 10th Anniversary Edition at half price!)

Breaking News: US Directly Taking Sides in Libyan Civil War

blankfist says...

>> ^NetRunner:

You should take your own advice!
For example, what's something you've said often enough that it'd be your catchphrase if they made a sitcom about Videosift? "Ha ha statist idiots"?
You break all three rules every time you say that.
>> ^blankfist:
1. Try not to talk down to people when pushing your religious memorabilia. Others may misread your self-proclaimed brilliance as the unrestrained ego of a self-centered fuckhead.
2. Pick an appropriate time to work in the sale's pitch. Not every conversation or thread is the right moment to spread the gospel. You have to discriminate so you can seize the right moment to make the convert.
3. Make the conversion process a dialogue, not a monologue. Fun fact about people: they like to feel they're being engaged and not just talked at. Even though you may be right about everything because your bible says you are, you don't want others to think you're just a prickish, arrogant, insufferable, egomaniacal, self-important cocksucker who enjoys attacking those who challenge your unshakable, inerrant belief system.



I guess that would be true if I was selling something like DFT has been pushing the Shock Doctrine. But then again usually the statist idiot comment is on a video that has something to do with a failure of the statist system, so #2 is certainly not broken. Grasping at straws.

You two should go to another thread somewhere Obama needs defending and stroke each other off with comment upvotes. Run along, dearest statist idiot.

Breaking News: US Directly Taking Sides in Libyan Civil War

NetRunner says...

You should take your own advice!

For example, what's something you've said often enough that it'd be your catchphrase if they made a sitcom about Videosift? "Ha ha statist idiots"?

You break all three rules every time you say that.
>> ^blankfist:

1. Try not to talk down to people when pushing your religious memorabilia. Others may misread your self-proclaimed brilliance as the unrestrained ego of a self-centered fuckhead.
2. Pick an appropriate time to work in the sale's pitch. Not every conversation or thread is the right moment to spread the gospel. You have to discriminate so you can seize the right moment to make the convert.

3. Make the conversion process a dialogue, not a monologue. Fun fact about people: they like to feel they're being engaged and not just talked at. Even though you may be right about everything because your bible says you are, you don't want others to think you're just a prickish, arrogant, insufferable, egomaniacal, self-important cocksucker who enjoys attacking those who challenge your unshakable, inerrant belief system.



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