humor on the joy bahar show and no WTF tag?

Joy Bahar got it WRONG.

It's not Kevin Spacey, but Kevin Pollock who does the spot-on impression of Walken.

I like how Olbermann included Barak Obama in his condemnation for when he said to "bring a gun" to a political fight, and how he called those who oppose him "enemies". Oh - no wait - he didn't do that. Obama, Pelosi, Ried, Fiengold, Gibbs, and the thousands of other left-wing guys who routinely engage in hate speech got a free pass. He picked one example from his side. Real 'balance' there Olbie. Name the names on your side besides yourself. Matthews, Maddow, Garafalo, Barr, Bahar, Moore, and a hundred others. Feh - physician heal thyself.

There is no doubt that both sides have used such points in the past, for many years the comments regarding fighting a war/battle and fighting a campaign have been somewhat interchangable, but there is also no doubt (and Palin is just the most recent/glaring of the lot) that the Right has been the primary source of it. The left has dabbled in it but the right has always glorified its use of guns and targeting opponents and use of violence related speech to wind up its base even if they don't actually condone the use of such in reality. THIS is what the problem is. That these people (even the lefties) need to take a hard look at what they are saying and consider the repercussions.

Should everyone who has ever said "We will defeat them!" or whatever get all PC and worry now? No, absolutely not. But when people like Bachman start talking about a revolution and 2nd amendment repairs to the country etc, something needs to be done. People are emotional, and anyone saying this kind of thing either needs to be dead serious about a genuine revolution or shut their freaking mouths.
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It is too soon to try and point political fingers here. Really. We are getting conflicting data about the lunatic. There are a lot of people trying to say he was influenced by 'right wing rhetoric', and are using the most tenuous, distant links to justify it. On the other hand, his high-school associate said he was a 'leftie', and his favorite books are Mein Kamph and the Communist Manifesto (hardly right wing material).
Is "radical rhetoric" to blame? Who can say at this point in time. However, I find it very interesting that all the hand-wringing navel gazing about 'rhetoric' is only coming from the perspective of 'right wing rhetoric' while completely ignoring all the poisonous left wing rhetoric out there. President Obama himself said, "If they bring a knife - we bring a gun". How is it any less valid to blame OBAMA then for this guy's actions, than a stupid map with targets on it? Olberman, Maddow, Bahar, and a host of left wing folks routinely engage in "radical rhetoric" at least as vitriolic as anything the right does. Where is the condemnation?
I see this as a rather disgusting and blatant attempt to create a one-sided media story that blames only half of the players in the rhetoric game for the actions of a guy who was probably not directly influenced by either side. Compounding the evil of murder with the evil of propoganda. Pathetic - and those who play along with it are just as pathetic.

It is too soon to try and point political fingers here. Really. We are getting conflicting data about the lunatic. There are a lot of people trying to say he was influenced by 'right wing rhetoric', and are using the most tenuous, distant links to justify it. On the other hand, his high-school associate said he was a 'leftie', and his favorite books are Mein Kamph and the Communist Manifesto (hardly right wing material).

Is "radical rhetoric" to blame? Who can say at this point in time. However, I find it very interesting that all the hand-wringing navel gazing about 'rhetoric' is only coming from the perspective of 'right wing rhetoric' while completely ignoring all the poisonous left wing rhetoric out there. President Obama himself said, "If they bring a knife - we bring a gun". How is it any less valid to blame OBAMA then for this guy's actions, than a stupid map with targets on it? Olberman, Maddow, Bahar, and a host of left wing folks routinely engage in "radical rhetoric" at least as vitriolic as anything the right does. Where is the condemnation?

I see this as a rather disgusting and blatant attempt to create a one-sided media story that blames only half of the players in the rhetoric game for the actions of a guy who was probably not directly influenced by either side. Compounding the evil of murder with the evil of propoganda. Pathetic - and those who play along with it are just as pathetic.