In reply to this comment by Tofumar:Since we probably won't get to talk again, I'll just bid you adieu and wish you luck in all your future endeavors. I'm sure your e-mails begging the girls from Prussian Blue to overlook the fact that you don't shower will pay off eventually.


You're awesome.

Oh, I don't have the power to do so. But others do, and they've been made aware of your comments.

Since we probably won't get to talk again, I'll just bid you adieu and wish you luck in all your future endeavors. I'm sure your e-mails begging the girls from Prussian Blue to overlook the fact that you don't shower will pay off eventually.

In reply to this comment by bronxbrothers:
HAHAHA so ban me liberal pinko shit for brains. Admit those "negros" "darkies" are so damn stupid to walk into a police station... so fucking obvious. BAN ME PLEASE!!!!!!!! Dumb niggers

In reply to this comment by Tofumar:
"BLAYH BLAH BLAH. Fuck you too. Nig lover."

Are you so retarded that you didn't notice that you replied onto your own member profile instead of MGR's?

My guess is yes. Here's another guess for you: one more comment like that, and the community is going to ban hammer your ass.

Le Moribond

Adieu l'Émile je t'aimais bien
Adieu l'Émile je t'aimais bien tu sais
On a chanté les mêmes vins
On a chanté les mêmes filles
On a chanté les mêmes chagrins
Adieu l'Émile je vais mourir
C'est dur de mourir au printemps tu sais
Mais je pars aux fleurs la paix dans l'ame
Car vu que tu es bon comme du pain blanc
Je sais que tu prendras soin de ma femme


(Chorus)
Je veux qu'on rie
Je veux qu'on danse
Je veux qu'on s'amuse comme des fous
Je veux qu'on rie
Je veux qu'on danse
Quand c'est qu'on me mettra dans le trou


Adieu Curé je t'aimais bien
Adieu Curé je t'aimais bien tu sais
On n'était pas du même bord
On n'était pas du même chemin
Mais on cherchait le même port
Adieu Curé je vais mourir
C'est dur de mourir au printemps tu sais
Mais je pars aux fleurs la paix dans l'ame
Car vu que tu étais son confident
Je sais que tu prendras soin de ma femme
(Chorus)


Adieu l'Antoine je t'aimais pas bien
Adieu l'Antoine je t'aimais pas bien tu sais
J'en crève de crever aujourd'hui
Alors que toi tu es bien vivant
Et même plus solide que l'ennui
Adieu l'Antoine je vais mourir
C'est dur de mourir au printemps tu sais
Mais je pars aux fleurs la paix dans l'ame
Car vu que tu étais son amant
Je sais que tu prendras soin de ma femme
(Chorus)


Adieu ma femme je t'aimais bien
Adieu ma femme je t'aimais bien tu sais
Mais je prends le train pour le Bon Dieu
Je prends le train qui est avant le tien
Mais on prend tous le train qu'on peut
Adieu ma femme je vais mourir
C'est dur de mourir au printemps tu sais
Mais je pars aux fleurs les yeux fermés ma femme
Car vu que je les ai fermés souvent
Je sais que tu prendras soin de mon ame
(Chorus)

here is a (fairly close) translation:

The Dying Man

Goodbye, Emile, you were my good friend
Goodbye, Emile, you were my good friend, you know
We sang together of the same great wines
We sang together of the same great women
We sang together of our shared sorrows
Goodbye, Emile, I'm going to die
It's difficult to die in the Spring, you know
But I'm going to the flowers with peace in my heart
Because I know that you are a good man, good as white bread
You'll take care of my wife after I'm gone


(Chorus)
I want everyone to laugh
I want everyone to dance
I want everyone to party like a bunch of fools
I want everyone to laugh
I want everyone to dance
When they come to put me in my grave


Goodbye, Father Priest, I liked you well enough
Goodbye, Father Priest, I liked you well enough, you know
We weren't always on the same side
We didn't always take the same path
But we were both looking for Heaven just the same
Goodbye, Father Priest, I'm going to die
It's hard to die in the Spring, you know
But I'm going to the flowers with peace in my heart
Because you were her Confessor
I know you'll take care of my wife when I'm gone
(Chorus)


Goodbye, Tony, I didn't like you too much
Goodbye, Tony, I didn't like you too much, you know
It's killing me to be dying today
While you are so vigorous and full of life
And stronger even than boredom itself
Goodbye, Tony, I'm going to die
It's hard to die in the Spring, you know
But I'm going to the flowers with peace in my heart
Because you were her Lover
I know you'll take care of my wife when I'm gone
(Chorus)


Goodbye, my wife, I love you still
Goodbye, my wife, I love you still, you know
But I'm taking that trip to see the Good Lord today
I'm taking the trip before you do
But we all take that trip when we must
Goodbye, my wife, I'm going to die
It's hard to die in the Spring, you know
But I'm going to the flowers with my eyes closed, once more
And because I closed them so many times before
I know you'll take good care of my heart
(Chorus)

rembar you have constructed quite the strawman out of my arguements.go back to the thread we are talking about and you'll see that you ducked out of any real debate long before you got on your high horse. Our original disagreement has always been whether or not posts on the detrimental effects of fluoride should be posted in the science channel. You say "no" for a number of reasons (your comments below have reiterated this over and over.)

but perhaps you have a short memory, so here's the timeline.

rembar removes a video from the science channel before watching all of it.

"you're damn straight I didn't watch this documentary fully through. I only got about halfway through while eating my lunch before I knew I was going to remove it from the Science channel. Note how I didn't vote on the video - I will reserve doing that until or if I finish watching the video, as I typically do. My moderation of the Science channel sifts is separate from my voting."

you stated this about the scientist mentioned in the video

"I'm not disputing Dr. Mullinex's studies, methods, or results thereof. Yet. I haven't been able to dig up his(her) studies, so it would be unfair and intellectually dishonest of me to refer to them in any argument that I would make."

while you say you don't know anything about her studies, you know enough to totally discount her work. (She is a scientist and yet you won't let a video about her in the science channel). And apparently without knowing anything of her study you were able to comment...

"IT IS BAD SCIENCE AND SO IT GETS KICKED OUT OF THE CHANNEL."

you have now made a claim against the scientist and her work mentioned in the video (yet, you've never rebuted any of her work), without actually knowing anything about the scientist or her situation. Here is the lady who you are denigrating.

DR. PHYLLIS J. MULLENIX, Ph.D. is a pharmacologist and toxicologist by training... In the 1980s, Dr. Mullenix was Head of the Toxicology Department at the Forsyth Dental Center, a world renowned dental research institution affiliated with the Harvard Medical School. She was invited to start Forsyth's Toxicology Department because of her expertise in neurotoxicology. She is presently a Research Associate in Psychiatry at the Children's Hospital Medical Center in Boston. Dr. Mullenix's academic appointments, professional positions held, teaching experience, awards, honors and many published scientific research articles to her name are numerous.

when defending your action of removing it from the science channel, you quoted your own channel description

"In addition, if the video is intended to be factual and not parody, it must be reasonably scientifically accurate."

Since the video was not parody you are implying that is was scientifically INACCURATE, but yet you provided no examples from the clip to back up that assertion. you also stated...

"Note that last bit there. It's the same reason why I will kick out videos that say we never landed on the moon because the earth is actually flat. Oh, sure, it's a theory. It's also an incorrect theory. The term science is so damn broad that it could encompass damn near everything, but I'm not going to lower the quality of sifts on my channel just because it might include something poorly passable as science. It should NOT matter whether I agree or not IT IS BAD SCIENCE AND SO IT GETS KICKED OUT OF THE CHANNEL."

then you go in a different direction...

"I kicked the video out after putting on a number of comments on fluoride and getting nowhere, specifically the part about meeting on even scientific ground by citing papers from well-accepted journals.".

this is bullshit as you've just admitted that you didn't kick the video out the content of the video itself. if we are discussing any details of scientific studies / works by accomplished and recognized scientists then the video should be in the science channel, not based on the outcome of me changing your already made up mind about the findings of such studies.

Your claim that I have not presented papers from scientific journals is demonstrably false as I've given you information from
FLUORIDE
Quarterly Journal of the International Society for Fluoride Research
and
A Bibliography of Scientific Literature on Fluoride
and while not a journal it is a review of the scientific studies that the EPA used to set their standards and which was reviewed by the NRC.
“Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA’s Standards” (National Research Council, 2006)

then you got on your high, high horse by stating

Respond to the papers I have cited above and to my comments on them, and show their conclusions to be incorrect. I can't take you seriously until then.

I see, but I'm suppossed to take you seriously when you can't even present a cohesive arguement against the specific claims of the video. then you start with the insults... in response to cyberbeast saying that "The science (of fluoride) is controversial and not settled"

See, that's where they get you, and that's where you're wrong. Just like how all those creationist/intelligent design apologists say, "Oh, evolution is just a theory, there's still a lot of debate in the scientific community," and all the media latches onto that because they want a "balanced" story, not a fair one, and they can't comprehend a story wherein there is no scientifically accepted opposition as they believe it should be (i.e. support for creationism/intelligent design in the scientific community), there is overwhelming support for fluoride in water in the scientific community. Anybody who does work in medicine or public health could tell you that. That's why this video will not be put into the Science channel.

If you're already coming to tell me that "the science is controversial", this video has already done damage, because that is simply not true. I'm not going to lend any of the Science channel's legitimacy to this sift and make it that much worse.

and my three favorite end quotes from you highlighting the best of your character and ego...

"Oh, and yes, it is a pride issue: I take pride in holding the Science channel to a higher standard of scientific accuracy. The day that the Science channel goes the way of this sift is the day I bid adieu to VideoSift. Until then, I'm going to continue cleaning house in my channel and you can stop me when you pull the kick link from my cold, sifting fingers."

"Long story short, as long as people want to bawww about how I run my channel, I will laugh from my ivory tower and hold the Science channel to scientifically-acceptable standards with an iron fucking fist."

"I'm proud, I'm arrogant, and I'm also right. You have no scientific credentials nor any scientific reasoning nor critical thinking skills, which is why I don't take you seriously on this topic. I get paid for work on this, you don't. Guess how much I care about your opinion of me and my scientific thinking?"

_____________________

and you wonder why I won't engage your ego with a debate on the details of the scientific studies. That's not the issue at hand, your ever changing reasons to why you won't let any video about fluoride in your channel is. As your comments indicate, you have already made up your mind what you're going to believe, no matter what evidence is presented to you.

as a last aside. since I've been reading on this topic for the last few years, it's not googlefoo when one has already read the material and has it bookmarked for easy reference.

I'm not particularly worried, because, thank goodness, science and truth aren't ruled by democracy. Your statement of "papers from both sources are peer reviewed", so this is an "unsettled scientific issue" is completely what's wrong with your logic and this entire argument.

Papers are judged largely on the strength of their evidence and their import in the community. Have you read through any of the papers cited in this thread? No? Really? Then how exactly are you judging them again? Perhaps we should count up how many papers I cite and then how many papers the writeups that Qruel is copypasting cites? That's not the way these things go, I'm happy to say.

Also, the papers I'm citing don't, in fact, come to opposite conclusions to papers that Qruel's copypasta cites. You would know this if you read them. No, seriously. Read them. At least maybe one person can learn something from this sift. Then maybe we could break even.

Oh, and yes, it is a pride issue: I take pride in holding the Science channel to a higher standard of scientific accuracy. The day that the Science channel goes the way of this sift is the day I bid adieu to VideoSift. Until then, I'm going to continue cleaning house in my channel and you can stop me when you pull the kick link from my cold, sifting fingers.