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Rick Perry's bigoted campaign message

shinyblurry says...

Homosexuality is a sin and you need to repent. Whatever you might think, God is the judge and He has commanded everyone to repent of their sins. Anyone who dies in their sin without salvation will spend eternity in hell, and I don't want that to happen to you, so please do not go on in your rebellion against Gods authority. This wicked society is changing to accomodate this sin, and it is emboldening people to believe that they are right and God is wrong, but regardless of what men say you are the one who will give account to God.

Please do not let flawed Christians (we're all flawed) sway your opinion of what is right and wrong, because Satan uses hypocrites to embolden sinners. Don't fall into the trap, but escape with your soul and seek Gods forgiveness. This life is only temporary and what you do here has eternal consequences. Jesus loves you so please seek His forgiveness.



>> ^FlowersInHisHair

Rick Perry's bigoted campaign message

alien_concept says...

>> ^shinyblurry:

I wouldn't vote for perry, but I agree with the message. Sin should never be normalized or legislated in society. Just recently they repealed the sodomy laws in the miltary for homosexuals, and it also repealed laws against bestiality:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics
/2011/12/08/senate-defense-bill-repeals-military-law-on-sodomy-sex-with-animals/
I feel sorry for our troops that they have to serve with this kind of thing going on, which is now approved by the powers that be. America is fading fast, and judgement cannot be far behind.


Ok you've just gone from mildly aggravating to downright disgusting in one comment. Congratulations, bigot

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shinyblurry says...

Because Christians do not follow jewish civil or cermonial law.

>> ^hpqp:
Orly? How come I never see your righteous rants under videos about eating seafood? (Lev. 11:10-12) >> ^shinyblurry:
We're commanded by God to speak out against sin and we aren't going to stop obeying God to listen to the politically correct establishment.



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shinyblurry says...

Freedom of religion is an amendment, not a rewrite. "Neither am I a bigot; what I am intolerant of is sin." - sin according to your interpretation of the Christian Bible. Therefore, intolerant on religious grounds. Therefore, a bigot.

The bible is extremely clear on what sin is. There isn't much to interpret, although many people try to make it that way.

I went to church when I was young and I believed in God, but at that age anything my mother told me, I believed. We stopped going to church and years later when I asked why, I was told that my older brothers started asking questions that my mother couldn't answer and when she realised she had a family of rational atheists, she knew better than to try.

For me personally, I was talking to my brother about Noah's Ark for some reason and I remember he said something like "you don't actually believe that, do you?". I was stunned - it had never before occurred to me that something in the Bible might not be true. That made me start questioning things and the more I thought about it, the less I believed. It took me a while to get my head around things but the more I thought about it, the more unbelievable it was. A few years later and I'd come to accept that the whole book is essentially fiction.


What you failed to do is trust God and let Him provide you the answer.

Trust in the LORD with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding

When you stopped doing that you made yourself Gods judge, and trusted in mans reason instead of Gods. You rejected God because you didn't have any faith. It doesn't sound like you even understood why you believed, let alone realized that you had a personal relationship with God. I'm sure you still know in your heart there is a God, but you're rejecting Him now.

"Wait, what??

shinyblurry: "No one should be bullied or singled out"

What?

Are you serious?!?

Are you actually trying to say that you don't single out homosexuals?

I, I ... oh, I give up."


I don't single out anyone..we've all sinned and fallen short. Neither would I go up to a homosexual and say they've done anything worse than what I've done, or what you've done. It doesn't matter who it is, or what their background is..I just witness to whomever or whatever is in front of me.

>> ^Quboid

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hpqp says...

Orly? How come I never see your righteous rants under videos about eating seafood? (Lev. 11:10-12) >> ^shinyblurry:

We're commanded by God to speak out against sin and we aren't going to stop obeying God to listen to the politically correct establishment.


Rick Perry's bigoted campaign message

Rick Perry - Weak, Man

Rick Perry - Weak, Man

shinyblurry says...

"We are not bashing your Christianity, we're rightfully bashing your bigotry, intolerance and hatred"

This video is clearly bashing Christianity, and you have put your stamp of approval on it. And I don't hate anyone; I view all people as being in the image of God, having an essential dignity and being worthy of respect. Neither am I a bigot; what I am intolerant of is sin.

>> ^Hanover_Phist:
>> ^shinyblurry:
If you want to say anyone who speaks out against homosexuality is a bigot, I disagree with you. We're commanded by God to speak out against sin and we aren't going to stop obeying God to listen to the politically correct establishment. You and your ilk feel free to bash Christians all the time, so you don't really have much to say about tolerance.

We are not bashing your Christianity, we're rightfully bashing your bigotry, intolerance and hatred.

Rick Perry - Weak, Man

shinyblurry says...

You're also commanded by God to impregnate your widowed sister in law and allowed by God to sell your daughter into slavery. You're banned by God from touching menstruating women. You're not allowed to work on a Sunday and those who do must be put to death - I presume you kill firemen and doctors? Don't tell me that us politically correct people have stopped following these commands?

Have you read the bible? I am commanded to do no such thing. What you're referring to is the jewish cermonial and civil law which was only for Israel in that time and place. Please read up on the differences between the old and new covenants.

No no, I don't bash Christians. My mother is a Christian and I love her. I am intolerant of intolerance. I am intolerant of those who claim to be saving souls, yet who bully young men into committing suicide - and what does your Bible say about that? You're not saving souls, you're damning them.

I haven't bullied anyone, and it isn't loving to tolerate sin. It is actually hateful to tolerate it because sin is what sends people to hell. No one should be bullied or singled out, and those who act that way are not following what Jesus taught.

So I presume if your mother is Christian, you grew up in the faith? If so, why did you turn your back on it?

You can be Christian all you want, but if you have a problem with homosexuality, then you don't engage in homosexual acts.

I have a problem with sin, and I will continue to speak out against it as God commanded me.

Oh, and stop bleating about American being founded with Christian ideals. Freedom of religion is in your constitution.

I will stop talking about it when people stop trying to rewrite history.

>> ^Quboid

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residue says...

It's refreshing to see someone else around here that can recognize that it isn't specifically religion to blame but rather the people that hide behind religion as an excuse to be assholes. There isn't anything inherently wrong with being a christian or the christian religion, the problem arises when people use religion of any kind as a pedestal and twist it how they see fit to push their agendas.


>> ^Quboid:

I really shouldn't feed the troll (and I'm increasingly thinking shinyblurry is a clued up troll because it's getting harder and harder to believe that he thinks that he is making Christianity look good), but here we go. This is what the Christian right make of freedom - it's freedom to do what they want, to say what they want. Not other people.
When you try to apply freedom to something they don't want, no no no, that's not on. You can be free to be a homophobe, or whatever they call it - something about trying to save souls, by subjecting homosexuals to mental bullying (while claiming the physical bullying is completely different). But you're not free to be homosexual, because the Bible makes some vague comments about that being bad. The Bible also says some other stuff is bad and some weird stuff is fine, but it seems you're free to ignore some of that without being a massive, massive hypocrite.
This isn't the whole right wing. I respect Dr. Ron Paul; although I don't agree with his economic policies, he understands that freedom means other people might be free to do things that, gasp, he doesn't like. Also, this isn't a rant against what Christianity is supposed to be, or those Christians who follow that. It's a rant about the Christian right, the fundamentalist, hate filled bigots and the politicians that either fall into this group, or use this group to further their careers.
The Christian Right is neither Christian, nor right.

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residue says...

Well that's just the puritans. There were also a whole bunch of other religious factions (quakers, protestants, etc.) really just looking for "space" to practice their own faith in private and America provided the vast amount of space needed (except for some pesky natives...)

>> ^Quboid:

>> ^residue:
Wasn't part of the reason for initial colonization of America (by Europeans) to escape religious prosecution? The thought that America has to be an entirely Christian nation is in direct opposition to the principles of freedom that the country makes its stance upon...

I think that's not true. The puritans went to America to escape persecution of their particular brand of fundamentalist Christianity. In today's terms, the English got sick of these bible bashing morons, so they shipped off to become the American Christian far right.
They didn't want freedom from religious persecution; they wanted religious persecution - but crucially, their religious. Exactly what the Christian right want to do now.

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Hanover_Phist says...

>> ^shinyblurry:
If you want to say anyone who speaks out against homosexuality is a bigot, I disagree with you. We're commanded by God to speak out against sin and we aren't going to stop obeying God to listen to the politically correct establishment. You and your ilk feel free to bash Christians all the time, so you don't really have much to say about tolerance.


We are not bashing your Christianity, we're rightfully bashing your bigotry, intolerance and hatred.

Rick Perry - Weak, Man

Quboid says...

>> ^shinyblurry:
If you want to say anyone who speaks out against homosexuality is a bigot, I disagree with you. We're commanded by God to speak out against sin and we aren't going to stop obeying God to listen to the politically correct establishment. You and your ilk feel free to bash Christians all the time, so you don't really have much to say about tolerance.
>> ^Quboid


You're also commanded by God to impregnate your widowed sister in law and allowed by God to sell your daughter into slavery. You're banned by God from touching menstruating women. You're not allowed to work on a Sunday and those who do must be put to death - I presume you kill firemen and doctors? Don't tell me that us politically correct people have stopped following these commands?

No no, I don't bash Christians. My mother is a Christian and I love her. I am intolerant of intolerance. I am intolerant of those who claim to be saving souls, yet who bully young men into committing suicide - and what does your Bible say about that? You're not saving souls, you're damning them.

You can be Christian all you want, but if you have a problem with homosexuality, then you don't engage in homosexual acts.

Oh, and stop bleating about American being founded with Christian ideals. Freedom of religion is in your constitution.

Rick Perry's bigoted campaign message

shinyblurry says...

The Mayflower and the people aboard her were a deeply religious sect of people that did indeed flee to the colonies to practice their religion. I fully understand that.

What you, and most cherry-picking christians fail to acknowledge is that the Mayflower crew was not the first nor the second or even the third permanent settlement in the new world. Jamestown, roughly 20 years prior was established without pretense of religion by wealthy Europeans hoping to find gold. The were ill-equipped and not manual laborers so to speak and that's why the first Jamestown settlement was in dire straights. A second crew arrived and began growing tobacco, which, at the time, the sale of tobacco seeds was outlawed outside of Spain. John Rolfe acquired some and thus established the first functional, economically viable colony at Jamestown a full six years before the Mayflower even sailed from England.

Economy, money and enterprise is what established America, not some freedom from religious persecution as, again, Americans have been force fed for years.


You're right, the first wave of settlers weren't strongly committed Christians, although one of the first things they did upon arriving was join the Rev. Robert Hunt in a communion service. However everything else is the complete opposite of what you said. Indeed, John Rolfe was the first to establish the colony, but what you've left out is that he was a deeply committed Christian! He is the one who converted Pocahontas to Christianity and took her as a bride. He had a Christian purpose for Jamestown such as to "advance the Honor of God, and to propagate his Gospel." He also said:

"no small hope by piety, clemency, courtesy and civil demeanor to convert and bring to the knowledge and true worship of Jesus Christ 1000s of poor wretched and misbelieving people: on whose faces a good Christian cannot look, without sorrow, pity and commiseration; seeing they bear the Image of our heavenly Creator, and we and they come from one and the same mold. . ."

So yes, Christianity was there at the outset, and it continued to be the prevailing influence in shaping this country.

I am not discounting what the pilgrims did at Plymouth. They did amazing things, especially with the Indians. I just want to clear that Plymouth was not what founded the colonies. They were not the first and were one of many.

If you won't listen to me, listen to the library of congress:

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel01.html


>> ^Hive13



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