>> ^luxury_pie:

We did it: Rick Perry officially has most hated youtube video.


Strong ad surpasses Friday Ha! I called it!

All the freedoms who enjoys? Who is free? You keep saying that everybody is free but we're far from it. The only other countries that we're more free than...are countries that are just slightly more religious than the US. That's right...the more religion, the less freedoms. Inverse relationship between religion and freedom. On the individual, on the community, in a country. Religion is ALWAYS a form of social control, it has never been used to "free" anybody.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Everyone who voted for this video and (mockingly) for the other one is a hypocrite. Bashing Christians in the name of tolerance? As far as his claims go, this country was founded by Christians, and it has always been Christian. All of the wonderful freedoms that secular humanists enjoy today are only because of Christian principles. If you want to rip out the foundation you're going to sink the boat, and that's exactly what is happening today.

Since we started turning our back on the Christian god? You mean like when the writer of the Constitution plainly stated that the first amendment was intended to provide a wall of separation between church and state? Or how so many of the founding fathers were deist, not Christian? The foundation surely has nothing to do with marriage, homosexual or otherwise. Just which Christian principles are you claiming America was founded on? And which denomination?

This is what Jefferson wrote, which was not an official government document:

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God; that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship; that the legislative powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church and State"

What that obviously means is that it is protecting the church from the government, not the government from the church. The original intention of the establishment clause was to prevent any denomination from becoming the state religion. Since then it has been selectively interpreted to exclude Christianity from public affairs, mostly due to the inclusion of the case law standard.

Where do you get this idea that "so many of the founding fathers" were Deist? You could make a strong case for perhaps 2 or 3 of them. The rest were practicing Christians for which there is ample evidence. 24 of the signers have seminary degrees and one of them was a practicing minister. They opened the first session of congress with a 3 hour prayer and then a bible study. Franklin proposed that they open every congress with prayer at the first constitutional convention and since that time, every session has opened with prayer (until the last few years)

http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html

Do you think Jefferson is a Deist? Why did he write this?:

And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure if we have lost the only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?" - Thomas Jefferson

Why did he hold church services in the house of representitives?

These were the three main reference materials cited by the framers:

king james bible
spirit of the laws
commentaries laws of england - blackstone, based on ten commandments

The rule of law is based on Gods natural, unchanging law. James madison had the idea for our three branches of government based on Isaiah 33:22. The reason we have checks and balances is because man has a sinful nature and they didn't believe any man could be trusted with power.

The liberty bell is inscribed with leviticus 25:10. In the battle hymm of the republic: "as christ died to make men holy, let us die to make men free"

our constitution was made for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate to the government of any other

John Adams

the bible is the rock on which our republic rests

andrew jackson

Now historians are discovering that the bible, perhaps even more than the constitution, is our founding document

Newsweek 12/27/82

>> ^DrewNumberTwo>> ^DrewNumberTwo

We did it: Rick Perry officially has most hated youtube video.

Somebody hasn't been reading Leviticus all the way through.
>> ^shinyblurry:

I wouldn't vote for perry, but I agree with the message. Sin should never be normalized or legislated in society. Just recently they repealed the sodomy laws in the miltary for homosexuals, and it also repealed laws against bestiality:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics
/2011/12/08/senate-defense-bill-repeals-military-law-on-sodomy-sex-with-animals/
I feel sorry for our troops that they have to serve with this kind of thing going on, which is now approved by the powers that be. America is fading fast, and judgement cannot be far behind.

Since we started turning our back on the Christian god? You mean like when the writer of the Constitution plainly stated that the first amendment was intended to provide a wall of separation between church and state? Or how so many of the founding fathers were deist, not Christian? The foundation surely has nothing to do with marriage, homosexual or otherwise. Just which Christian principles are you claiming America was founded on? And which denomination?
>> ^shinyblurry:

You can live in denial that God has richly blessed this country, but it's undeniable that it has become quantifiably worse since we started turning our back on Him. America was founded on Christian principles, and if you want to tear out the foundation, the whole thing will going to collapse.
>> ^A10anis:
"And, as president, i will take America back to the dark ages where, once again, religion will supress freedom of thought, and dictate all aspects of our lives."

Congratulations! Your comment has just received enough votes from the community to earn you 1 Power Point. Thank you for your quality contribution to VideoSift.

>> ^shinyblurry:

You can live in denial that God has richly blessed this country, but it's undeniable that it has become quantifiably worse since we started turning our back on Him. America was founded on Christian principles, and if you want to tear out the foundation, the whole thing will going to collapse.
>> ^A10anis:
"And, as president, i will take America back to the dark ages where, once again, religion will supress freedom of thought, and dictate all aspects of our lives."



Slavery?

sb actually quoted Faux Noise? L-fucking-O-L

I quoted you @ChaosEngine because even reading sb's hateful, ignorant shit makes me feel dirty, so I don't want to unignore.
>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^shinyblurry:
I wouldn't vote for perry, but I agree with the message. Sin should never be normalized or legislated in society. Just recently they repealed the sodomy laws in the miltary for homosexuals, and it also repealed laws against bestiality:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics
/2011/12/08/senate-defense-bill-repeals-military-law-on-sodomy-sex-with-animals/

You might actually get laid, shiny...

Your video, Rick Perry - Weak, Man, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.

OH MY GAWD!!

To quote the source "You can't make this shit up."

"As it turns out, the gays get their revenge... the jacket Rick Perry wore in the ad? Heath Ledger wore it in 'Brokeback Mountain.' "

photo proof here:
http://elections.americablog.com/2011/12/perrys-jacket-in-anti-gay-ad-heath.html

PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> ^Boise_Lib:

All that's missing is the santorum.

>> ^Hive13:

This had better get more upvotes than the original it parodies or I will have lost some faith in my Sift brothers and sisters.
To be fair, the original is pretty damn funny, too.

>> ^shinyblurry:

I wouldn't vote for perry, but I agree with the message. Sin should never be normalized or legislated in society. Just recently they repealed the sodomy laws in the miltary for homosexuals, and it also repealed laws against bestiality:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics
/2011/12/08/senate-defense-bill-repeals-military-law-on-sodomy-sex-with-animals/


You might actually get laid, shiny...