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Milton Friedman and the Miracle of Chile
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703411304575093572032665414.html
Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek Round Two
@dystopianfuturetoday, Hayek was in defense of Classic Liberalism, so you can't call him Left or Right in the way you understand the two. He's certainly not either, not in the conventional understanding of right vs. left politics, which is vague to say the least. Some think fascism is leftist and others rightist. That's largely because the entire paradigm is based upon the French Revolution, which doesn't fit eloquently into world political positions.
Naomi Watts, the author of the Shock Doctrine, is certainly left-leaning, so I could see how she'd label him rightist in misguided error.
Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek Round Two
Also, this is a great opportunity to mention Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine
The New Road to Serfdom
Christopher Hayes, In These Times, November 9, 2007
In the early ’80s, as Margaret Thatcher attempted to hack away at England’s substantial public sector, she found a frustrating degree of public resistance. The closer she got to the bone, the more the patient wriggled and withdrew. Thatcher doggedly persisted, yet her pace wasn’t fast enough for right-wing Austrian economist Friedrich von Hayek, her idol and ideological mentor. You see, in 1981, Hayek had traveled to Gen. Augusto Pinochet’s Chile, where, under the barbed restraints of dictatorship and with the guidance of University of Chicago-trained economists, Pinochet had gouged out nearly every vestige of the public sector, privatizing everything from utilities to the Chilean state pension program. Hayek returned gushing, and wrote Thatcher, urging her to follow Chile’s aggressive model more faithfully.
In her reply, Thatcher explained tersely that “in Britain, with our democratic institutions and the need for a higher degree of consent, some of the measures adopted in Chile are quite unacceptable. Our reform must be in line with our traditions and our Constitution. At times, the process may seem painfully slow.”
The Hayek/Thatcher exchange is one of many revealing historical nuggets unearthed in The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, Naomi Klein’s ambitious history of neoliberalism. Hayek isn’t the star of The Shock Doctrine—that dubious honor goes to his protegé and fellow Nobel Laureate Milton Friedman. But Klein’s totemic, capacious and brilliant alternate history of the last three decades of global political economy can best be understood as a latter-day response to Hayek’s classic right-wing manifesto, The Road to Serfdom.
More of this review here: http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine/reviews/new-road-serfdom
Breaking News: US Directly Taking Sides in Libyan Civil War
>> ^blankfist:
But then again usually the statist idiot comment is on a video that has something to do with a failure of the statist system, so #2 is certainly not broken.
Not really. Usually you break it out for when some individual who works for the state does something against the law for him to do. There are always going to be people who break the law, or choose to to immoral things.
It might be appropriate if it was a video about someone doing something bad, then getting a slap on the wrist for it (which would actually be the system failing). But you don't like those videos, because the anger it inspires makes people want to make the system better, and that just doesn't serve your agenda. You like it better if you can take advantage of people's shock and horror over abuse of power to ram your "free market" doctrine down people's throats.
(And yes, that's a plug for Naomi Klein's book The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, which is available now on Amazon for $19.95 + S/H and applicable taxes, order now and you'll be able to get No Logo: 10th Anniversary Edition at half price!)
dystopianfuturetoday (Member Profile)
Your video, Naomi Klein on the Market Takeover of Government Functions, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.
Breaking News: US Directly Taking Sides in Libyan Civil War
Sorry brother, that's how it comes off. As for Friedman, you should check out Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine". There is a very dark side to your market fundamentalism that you are either not aware of or in denial of. Most of the post WW2 and Cold War American military conflicts have been in the name of market capitalism. You always change the subject when I bring up Freidman's thugery. Perhaps it's time for you to do some research on the history of your belief system.
(Chomsky writes about it too, since you've recently become a fan.)
dystopianfuturetoday (Member Profile)
Of course they believe it is "good" -- but why do they continue to believe it is "good" when the evidence mounts that it isn't???
I'll have to read that book. I like Naomi Klein.
In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Have you read Naomi Klein's 'The Shock Doctrine'? I'm only about a quarter of the way through it, but it explains how Milton Freidman's persuasive rhetoric was able to sell plutocracy/corporatism to susceptible segments of the public as an issue of morality/liberty/personal freedom. It's not that they are bowing down, they believe they are doing good.
In reply to this comment by bareboards2:
I had a feeling you might like this.
I am trying to get my uber Republican father, who thinks it is okay to tax pensions and wages at much higher rates than on capital income, to listen to it.
Why rank and file Republicans are so quick to bow down to capital and the rich astounds me.
In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Great commentary. *promote
kronosposeidon (Member Profile)
Thanks. I'm reading The Shock Doctrine right now, and holy fuck is it dark.
In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
*promote *quality
The Shock Doctrine (the documentary)
See more of Naomi Klein's thoughts on the subject here: http://videosift.com/video/Naomi-Klein-The-Shock-Doctrine
See some of Milton Friedman's defense of capitalism here: http://videosift.com/video/Milton-Friedman-on-Greed
The Shock Doctrine (the documentary)
Here's the seven-minute film about the Shock Doctrine that Naomi Klein made with Alfonso Curaron shortly after the book was published in 2007:
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The Shock Doctrine Naomi Klein and Alfonso Cuaron by rashachadash
enoch (Member Profile)
Cheers, thanks for the promote!
(I like the new avatar)
In reply to this comment by enoch:
right on naomi.
*promote
Naomi Klein - Assault on Democracy
right on naomi.
*promote
FOIA Lawsuits Cause Release of New WTC7 Collapse Video
>> ^MarineGunrock:
I want the dumb-fuck truthers to answer a couple of "simple" questions for me, or to STFU:
1)What is there to gain from it?
2)Where are the signature multi-level explosions used to fell a building?
3)How the fuck do you sneak all the explosives in with no one noticing?
4)Why would they bother making them fall straight down? Wouldn't sideways be better if you're going to kill a bunch of people?
1.what is to gain from it?
this is the question that really stood out to me.
my friend.look up "false flag operations".
read bryzenski's "the grand chessboard" or chalmers johnson "blowback" and naomi klein's "shock doctrine" for more insight in to what might be gained from any fear-inducing crisis situation.
why?
because governments lie...thats why.
this is not my opinion but historical pattern.
as for the rest of your inquiry,i tend to agree with you and is one of the reasons i am not a "truther" but to suggest that somehow asking questions of a seriously flawed "conspiracy theory" put forth by the american government somehow makes people "dumb-fucks",is dis-ingenuine at best.because just as many 9/11 truther theories fail under scrutiny,so does the version put forth by our government.
so lets keep asking those questions and understand that the government is not our buddy,our pal or our friend and governments lie.
Name Something That Gets Passed Around? - Family Feud
the best one of these ive ever seen was "name a long necked bird ?" and the answer given was "naomi campbell".
Naomi Klein: Addicted to risk
>> ^legacy0100:
I say These catastrophic incidents happened because of greed and narrow self interest, but not because taking risk is bad.
I think that she is right to a point, but that she missed the structural distinction between accountable and unaccountable risk.
Large companies, like BP don't take reasonable risks, they have rooms full of lawyers vetting every detail of their day to day business, because if they don't cover their ass, then they will have to pay for it in court.
The issue with the oil spill is that it's an unsolvable problem, and so will not be solved, and will, as history has shown, not end up being , by and large, BP's responsibility.
It's not that we reward people for taking risks in general, but that we, in essence, hold harmless those who take risks so stupid that they can not be mitigated.