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VoodooV says...

I wish the old woman that said that to McCain wasn't so old.

That way she could live a long time knowing that she had become the poster child for hate, intolerance and most of all....utter...utter stupidity.

she is the personification of "The stupid party"

McCain & U.S. Government Called Treasonous at Townhall

robdot says...

McCain is now stuck, standing here listening to one of the right wing nut bags he and Fox News have created. Yes mr nut bag, Obama gassed those children, then blamed it on Assad ,

McCain & U.S. Government Called Treasonous at Townhall

kevingrr jokingly says...

@Yogi

Oh you silver tongued devil.

Boo to the corporations who support McCain. Boo Godaddy.com! Boo Cisco! Boo US Airways! Boo Davita Healthcare (A Dialysis Company, a SINISTER dialysis company)! Boo to the electric companies. Boo.

Boo to all the S-Corps. Boo to C-Corporations. Boo to Limited Liability Companies.

They should just let you go back and pitch a tent in a park to "protest". What endgame do you think is coming? Anarchy?

McCain & U.S. Government Called Treasonous at Townhall

Yogi says...

I don't care if there was a video of a personal calling McCain a "Stupid faggot cunt" it doesn't matter, he doesn't matter. Fuck him and fuck the corporations that support him.

kevingrr said:

@VoodooV

I don't worship service members and I'm not really a fan of McCain. Having been or being in the military is not a trump card. That said to call McCain a "traitor" or having committed "treason" is more than out of line and in bad taste.

That said I do not hop on the bandwagon every time someone else bashes someone even if I don't care for the person they are bashing.

I don't really care for videos like this because I don't learn anything. There is no discourse, no information, no civility, and finally - no point.

McCain & U.S. Government Called Treasonous at Townhall

coolhund says...

I know very well how people work, thats why McCain shouldnt be a politician.
I even knew you would answer with some trolling, since you still dont know what democracy really means.

schlub said:

Sounds like you don't know shit about how people work...

McCain & U.S. Government Called Treasonous at Townhall

notarobot says...

I respect McCain for giving the man the time to finish saying what he had to say. Pointing out that he is free to run for office is probably the best response.

McCain & U.S. Government Called Treasonous at Townhall

kevingrr says...

@VoodooV

I don't worship service members and I'm not really a fan of McCain. Having been or being in the military is not a trump card. That said to call McCain a "traitor" or having committed "treason" is more than out of line and in bad taste.

That said I do not hop on the bandwagon every time someone else bashes someone even if I don't care for the person they are bashing.

I don't really care for videos like this because I don't learn anything. There is no discourse, no information, no civility, and finally - no point.

McCain & U.S. Government Called Treasonous at Townhall

VoodooV says...

I see that as part of the problem. There is an almost cult-like worship of the military and the people who have served. (oh no VoodooV is anti-military! lynch him!).

They bring a vast amount of experience and insight to the table? Of course they do, but are they the end all be all? Are they fundamentally better/superior to people who haven't been in the military? Not so much. If you think they are Then you seem to have trouble with that pesky concept of equality.

There is a fundamental pressure every US elected official ever has experienced to not "appear weak" That can often lead to unnecessary chest thumping and saber rattling as history has shown time and time again can get us into trouble. But it is a reality that you have better odds at winning an elected office if you served than if you hadn't and people need to fundamentally re-consider that line of reasoning.

Quite honestly, McCain is part of the old guard, the old way of thinking. We can't afford to think like that any longer. As technology continues racing ahead, The world becomes an increasingly small place and we have GOT to figure out how to get along with each other. Of course there will always be a need to have/show military force, but it's a scalpel, not a blunt object.

To me it seems like McCain is just becoming more and more incompetent. If there is any...ANY grain of truth to how they failed to vet Sarah Palin because they both thought they other guy did the vetting, that is just this huge failure and that McCain simply didn't care or pay attention to what was going on in his campaign and to me that speaks volumes as to how he would have led the country.

Time for retirement John.

But here is where I defend him. He wouldn't be where he is at right now if people didn't choose him. Whether I agree with him or not, He is doing what he thinks is best because the voters put him there. There is no mustache twirling villain. The world doesn't work that way. @arekin is absolutely right. There is a massive compulsion that whenever a vote doesn't go someone's way, then obviously the bad guys won and that everything they do will be evil, all the absurd arguments like "he's not MY president," or "I don't think he's a citizen," or "he's not a REAL American" are just lies people tell themselves to make them feel better. This isn't an episode of Scooby Do where if you solve the mystery you get to pull the mask off and the villain says "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!"

Talk is cheap Mr. Speaker, if you want to be in power so you can "arrest the gov't" put your money where your mouth is, STFU and run for office then asshole. Convince the people you're right and lets see if you can do any better. That's how the system works! If there is one negative to the Internet is the massive amount of armchair quarterbacking the Internet breeds. Countless millions of people who seem to honestly think they would do a better job. Well hey, you know what? I'm sure there are some of you out there that COULD do a better job, but if you're not going to throw your hat into the ring and walk the walk then I've got no time for your rambling and conspiracy theories.

McCain's response to his speech was fucking perfect. Not only did he call him out to run for office, He pointed out that he IS governing with the consent of the people. So if you don't like it, do a little community organizing of your own and convince the people to demand better. Oh shit, that takes effort! fuck it then!

No one really takes power. The people will always be strong enough (with or without guns) to thwart anyone who takes power. In reality, power is given. There are countless mechanisms of peaceful change in our gov't. Use them or shut the fuck up.

IMO, the single best thing we could do for gov't is to COMPLETELY REMOVE ALL PRIVATE MONEY FROM OUR ELECTIONS AND ABOLISH LOBBYING. It's because of all the corporate influence in our gov't that we probably get into these shenanigans in the first place.

kevingrr said:

I'm sorry you can have you differences of opinion and you can voice them, but to say John McCain is guilty of treason is absurd.

Does he often advocate military engagement? Yes.

But is that treason? No.

John McCain is a real veteran. Someone who has seen combat, been injured, and spent four years as a Prisoner of War (POW). I think he loves this country. I don't always agree with him on policy issues, but I believe that.

The speaker in this video is a joke and is bordering on being a tin foil wearing nut job.

I respect McCain for letting him speak his mind.

McCain & U.S. Government Called Treasonous at Townhall

kevingrr says...

I'm sorry you can have you differences of opinion and you can voice them, but to say John McCain is guilty of treason is absurd.

Does he often advocate military engagement? Yes.

But is that treason? No.

John McCain is a real veteran. Someone who has seen combat, been injured, and spent four years as a Prisoner of War (POW). I think he loves this country. I don't always agree with him on policy issues, but I believe that.

The speaker in this video is a joke and is bordering on being a tin foil wearing nut job.

I respect McCain for letting him speak his mind.

McCain & U.S. Government Called Treasonous at Townhall

bobknight33 says...

McCain is part of the Democratic Lite party. The Democrat Lite party will never beat the real thing. Hilliary can easily win next round.

Being said, I do believe that it is time for McCain to be replaced.
And that the guy giving the speech gets 2 thumbs up.

McCain & U.S. Government Called Treasonous at Townhall

arekin says...

I'm noticing a trend in the country that seems to go like this.
1. Disagree with person in power.
2. Think that Person in power is to serve only your interests.
3. Ask that person in power be removed from power and replaced with someone who has only your personal interests in mind.
4. Repeat.

This is stupid, not one of these people actually have any idea what the government knows about what is going on in Syria but they want to play armchair politics and claim that an elected official is guilty of treason? This is not like cosmovitelli said, a case of yelling at the concierge for finding a dead body in your closet; this is like yelling at the concierge because someone told you that if you went to that hotel you would likely have a dead body in your closet.

Sadly, I take some joy in knowing that this is a direct result of the past two election cycles. People have been trained that compromise is horrible in politics and the only way to move forward is if everyone agrees 100% with what you personally want. Let Mccain deal with the monster he helped create, the one Palin and Fox news continues to feed.

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dystopianfuturetoday says...

@dag - What I like best about your comment is that you present constructive criticism, while the rest of the media, government and public are preparing the tar and feathers.

I'm frustrated by the way we focus on personality and ignore the systemic nature of these kinds of issues. Once we tar and feather Obama, the next president will find herself/himself in need of effective national security measures and will likely go along with whatever the NSA thinks is best. Hillary is Stalin! Rand Paul is Hitler! Rinse and repeat. This is part of the reason why nothing ever seems to get done.

As an aside, I've certainly been on the offensive side of these crusades with Bush, McCain, Hillary and Romney, so this newish perspective is something of an epiphany. Not to say I didn't voice legitimate gripes, but I took cheap shots aplenty.

In short, I'm probably feeling what the rest of the world has long known, that Americans are immature, aggressive and completely unproductive in the way we manage their civic affairs, and it's not going to stop till we wise up.

(So just give up)


Anyway.....

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dystopianfuturetoday says...

@choggie

We are great at throwing tomatoes from the mezzanine, but what would we do if we found ourselves on stage when the lights come up. Who knows? Who cares? Let's throw more tomatoes! ....and I say this as one who has thrown many a tomato at Bush, Hillary, McCain and Mitt Romney.

If the way we do national security is a problem, then it's systemic, because the NSA pretty much done nothing else but collect intelligence 24-7 for the last 60 years.. They've used the system as it was intended to be used, yes, but they've also abused the system.

I'm sure there will be much caterwauling in 2016 about invasion of privacy, but once the dust settles, the crown will still weigh heavy with the burden of national security, and President Hillary, or Ryan, or Rubio, or Paul will find themselves backsliding into old way out of sheer necessity.

Same as it ever was.

If there is a problem with the way we do national security, we aren't going to fix it by calling people cunts and dramatically intoning high school level literary allusions. If we are going to fix it, it will require thought, discussion and hard choices.

Let the rest of them throw tomatoes while you and I fix this fucking system. What do you say, old sport?

President Choggie, how would you restructure the NSA in such a way that it can remain effective at it's job whilst minimizing potential for abuse?

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VoodooV says...

Rand is proof that Republicans just really are incapable of learning from their mistakes.

McCain/Palin didn't win. Let's go further Right!!

The Robot and the Ayn Rand disciple didn't win, Let's go even further Right.

Republicans have moved the goalposts countless times that they have lost all perspective and are completely out of touch with the american public.. In reality, Obama is a moderate conservative but to the right, he's a flaming socialist muslim dictator.

The right is its own worst enemy. The party of Lincoln?? That hasn't been true for a long fucking time.

Rand was grandstanding for publicity. period. his filibuster was a huge strawman



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