Well, yeah, of course she was brought back as an angel, but as a show that prided itself on keeping itself more realistic than other scifi, by using technology that was closer to our own and not completely, completely unfeasible it just makes no sense.

Everything that's wrong with religion if it were true out here suddenly applies in that universe, because ultimately in the show there is a god, and the god does have influences in the world, and can basically do anything, like create an extra kara thrace out of thin air, and poof her gone again.

It makes no goddamn sense!

The whole show had a nice ambiguity to its religious context and myths, which was good, but in the end all the bullshit myths - everything - was true! This carries a hell of a lot of repercussions to all the actions in the show and in the end it is just completely unsatisfying.

If they had not played with being closer to our own reality and introduced the supernatural elements more deeply intertwined in the story, then I'm sure I would have been more forgiving - like, say, Buffy the Vampire Slayer or True Blood for that sake, which handles its demons and gods and all that stuff fine within its own universe. BSG really, really wants to be our universe, which just makes it invalid, because it very clearly is not our universe. Its internal consistency is shot to hell and makes me want to punch a puppy in the face.

I rate it 10 sturgeon faces.

NERDS!

Kidding. Just watched it. I think when Kara Thrace left the first time (what was it, season 3?) she did fly to the 13th colony Earth and crash landed. She was then brought back as an angel.

Her being the 'harbinger of death' was confusing. I think it's that way because she's the one that brings them to our Earth to start the whole process over, which will eventually lead to the same demise of humanity? Dunno, just a hunch that's what they meant.

I have to admit, I kind of saw this being the precursor to our current human timeline from the get-go. The use of Greek gods/Zodiakos tipped me off in the beginning, and somehow I had a strong inkling they would be the start of our world leaving behind mythology as their legacy. I did think Baltar was shaping up to be Jesus, though. 150,000 years is a far cry from 2000, so I suppose that theory doesn't hold much water now seeing the ending.

I didn't think it was as bad as everyone keeps saying. It was not horrible. Sure, it could've been better, but it's a TV show. They have to stretch it out, which always leads to plot holes and loose logic.

Lost is superior in every way. BSG was good up until, well, basically everything with Hera was for naught. "Angels" or whatever they were. Kara Thrace ended up just being crap. I like things that make sense and as weird and fucked up Lost is, it makes much, much more sense than BSG. Rest in Piece, BSG, you died a horrible death. Hopefully no one is going to resurrect your stinking corpse in a spin-off.

(oops..)

>> ^EDD:
I'm sorry I only have the time to downvote a couple of pretentious tossers' comments, and sorry that I don't have the time to delve into the revelations at the moment, but rest assured I will take the time in the next 24 hours or so to express how I felt/feel about the finale.
And gwiz, what the frak is that, equating Lost and BSG?... You are dead to me.

I'm a little worried about the story coming to end after only one more episode; they seem to have way too much to wrap up and answer.

It may be that there's a single, simple way to reconcile everything. It does seem that all the questions are ones about origins and destinations on one level or another.

E.g. Where did the old cylons come from? Why were the colonies founded? Why did Earth get destroyed? Why haven't cylons been able to reproduce until Hera? What, if anything, makes Hera special? For that matter, why are they worshiping Greek gods, and naming their cultures after signs of the zodiac? Will anyone survive the confrontation of these two species, or will they merge into one? If so, were they ever really different in any meaningful way? Oh, and is Kara Thrace a cylon? Has she always been one? If so, who made her? Is resurrection merely a technological curiosity, or is that meant to factor into some sort of deeper significance about what really separates human and cylon?

That's a lot to cover in two hours, especially since we have this rescue mission thingy to carry out too, and final character moments, which are usually the main focus of the BSG series.

>> ^EDD:
^whoa, dft you've completely missed the point of this episode. It was no random piano player. It was in fact a figment of Kara's imagination - her 'dad', if there ever was one. The realization I mentioned in the description is the one of her having memory (imprints) of the song (Hera's notes merely provided cues for her to follow), which quite clearly leads to conclude that Kara IS Daniel, number 7, THE 13th Cylon model (who was artistic (piano, paintings, remind you of anyone?) and whose DNA had been radically altered, as we learned in the previous episode).

Umm... Occam's Razor? Isn't it far more likely that Kara Thrace is, in fact, the first Hybrid, and that Daniel was her father? I mean, she does stuff that Hera does (drawing the supernova over and over as a child). Look--we see him. We see the silly rituals they did when she was little. Starbuck's mom sure thought he was a real dude, and Kara even has a cassette tape of one of his performances. Admittedly, we've never "seen" him before, but he has loomed rather large in her life.

What I really like about this is that they've really drawn out the whole Greek Mythology angle, with the 'final five' (in fact, the FIRST five) lusting after their children and grand-children, unaware that in this, there is only sterility.

I've always thought Kara was a hybrid, but I thought that perhaps Saul Tigh was her real father, and that he had no idea. Rewatching the first season, I see that it puts a whole new spin on their relationship.

Oh, and I couldn't be happier about how all this is resolving. They had me at "naked singularity".

>> ^Farhad2000:
1:37 - 1:50 - A young woman lead them across the Galaxy, and it is she who will lead them again, her name is Karin Sujet. This is the story of the end times.
Kara Thrace is leading the Fleet in finding the path of Earth while at the same time, the warning is given to her - "You are the harbinger of death, Kara Thrace. You will lead them all to their end."
I know it's a long shot but any excuse for you people to watch intro to one of the best space based strategy games ever released is good enough for me. It's curious to me that the music matches the style BSG uses as well.


I'm thinking Homeworld was inspired by the original BSG, since Homeworld was released before the new BSG series started.

The story of the original is very BSG-like, where invaders kill everyone on the planet you're from, but 50,000 or so people escape on a giant ship, to go look for their original Homeworld, which they'd only recently found out about...

Homeworld 2 is more of a quest to go find the ancient supership/weapon to defend the Homeworld you found in the first game.

1:37 - 1:50 - A young woman lead them across the Galaxy, and it is she who will lead them again, her name is Karin Sujet. This is the story of the end times.

Kara Thrace is leading the Fleet in finding the path of Earth while at the same time, the warning is given to her - "You are the harbinger of death, Kara Thrace. You will lead them all to their end."

I know it's a long shot but any excuse for you people to watch intro to one of the best space based strategy games ever released is good enough for me. It's curious to me that the music matches the style BSG uses as well.

I've been having wet dreams about Kara Thrace since season 1 (which is saying a lot since the original Starbuck was a guy...)
so, of course, I declare it *quality

Kara Thrace - yes.

Is that Kara Thrace, or are my eyes deceiving me ?