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persephone says...

I can't offer you any alternatives, sorry.

What I did want to offer ,'though, is that the downside of the commenting system here, is that when comments like yours get rotated to the front page, I think they mis-represent the community to the tens of thousands of visitors who pop in to check it out, each day.

Yes it is off-putting to read throw-away comments like that and I would hazard to guess that for a female visitor to come by and see that on the front page, she probably wouldn't bother hanging around. If that happens often enough, it can only be to the detriment of this site. Balance is the only way to greatness.

In reply to this comment by reallyboredofcollege:
I knew someone was bound to say something. I agree it can be off-putting, and I never use it, but I couldn't think of a strong enough word for this situation. I feel like other words like bitch, asshole, douchebag, fucker, etc don't have any kick anymore. When this word is used, people know you mean business. And I definitely wanted to mean it when I heard her suggest it would be a good thing if someone killed Obama.

Anyhoo, that being said, I'm all ears for suggestions of other words. I thought about saying bitch, but for the reasons stated above, it didn't have enough punch. I can't think of any other word, gender-neutral or not, that does.

In reply to this comment by persephone:
I would ask that you please try to find other ways of expressing your distaste for this woman. That way you won't be putting the women on this site off-side, by using derogatory terms that are commonly used against women.

In reply to this comment by reallyboredofcollege:
This woman is why we invented the word cunt.

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MarineGunrock (Member Profile)

persephone says...

It's ok. I think I was still feeling a bit raw from the beauty video debacle and ensuing responses. It can be hard not to take stuff personally, sometimes.

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
Sorry, that was just meant to poke some fun. You make a point, but I just don't see how a commercial calling guys with fast cars small is really going to create a huge problem. From my perspective, they're just trying to get meatheads to slow down, especially in the residential areas, like you said.
I don't think that stereotype holds any merit, though, because some people simply enjoy going fast. I know I do (but I would never have a little car with a fart can on it).

Once again, sorry if I offended. Stupid internets can't convey the way things are said too well.

In reply to this comment by persephone:
It's a real ad campaign addressing a real problem, MG. Just as you showed concern for your community with your post about contraceptives being offered in gradeschool, I am voicing my concern about a real problem in my community.
Don't try to put me down for that, or it will only make you look like an ignorant prick, of which I am sure you are not.

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
Persephone and Quboid need to smoke some weed and just chill out. It's a funny video, nothing more.

MarineGunrock (Member Profile)

persephone says...

It's a real ad campaign addressing a real problem, MG. Just as you showed concern for your community with your post about contraceptives being offered in gradeschool, I am voicing my concern about a real problem in my community.
Don't try to put me down for that, or it will only make you look like an ignorant prick, of which I am sure you are not.

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
Persephone and Quboid need to smoke some weed and just chill out. It's a funny video, nothing more.

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rembar (Member Profile)

persephone says...

Thanks for the story-so I was right about the labia connection! I'll have to find another video about the entrapment idea..

In reply to this comment by rembar:
Seph, it isn't quite so Freudian as all that, but still a rather interesting story. From Sarracenia.com:
"The true reason that Venus is part of this plant's name due to the dirty minds of the kooky naturalists and nuserymen (such as John & William Bartram, Peter Collinson, William Darlington, Arthur Dobbs, John Ellis, and Daniel Solander). When they looked at the plant, they saw in its amazing behavior and attractive form (two red, glistening lobes, surrounded by hairs, sensitive to the touch), something that reminded them of female genitalia of their own species. Indeed!

Amongst themselves, this cabal of learned perverts referred to the plant as a "tipitiwitchet" (or "Tippity Twitchet"). It was subsequently assumed by historians that this was a Native American term, but linguistic experts have eliminated that as a possibility.

Tipitiwitchet, it appears, was a naughty euphemism of their own devising. I like to imagine a few of them coining the term one night as they were slamming down beers in a pub or in a sumptuous study. I'm guessing that the originator of the term was probably John Bartram. For while you might expect a scientist to express wonder or astonishment upon seeing the plant, Bartram wrote to Collinson on 29 August 1762 that "my little tipitiwitchet sensitive stimulates laughter in all ye beholders"."

rembar (Member Profile)

jonny (Member Profile)

bamdrew (Member Profile)

persephone says...

It's kinda late, but I left a comment after yours.

In reply to this comment by bamdrew:
Interesting interviews.

Some guys unconsciously like a lady who would be dependent on them to be the manly provider. I'm attracted to really smart and independent ladies for whatever reason, which is maybe the other side of the spectrum. God knows my girlfriend is much smarter and independent than me, and God knows this can mean me losing my share of arguments, but I'd not have it any other way.

Eden (Member Profile)

persephone says...

Thanks Eden! Now tell me about your avatar....

In reply to your comment:
Hi Persephone... just wanted to say, I think your avatar is quite beautiful.
The whole pomegranate/Hades thing - The story of Persephone is my favourite Greek Myth of all time.
I delight in the way it offered an explanation for the changing seasons/growth cycle, due to the sadness, and then joy of he mother, Demeter, as Persephone is forced to divide her year between her abductor and her Mother.
Thanks for keeping me reminded!
E

rembar (Member Profile)

persephone says...

Rembar, go back to the video and listen at about 3:22. He says "the amygdala says this is not a safe place for birth... and the process of labour shuts down voluntarily until a safe haven can be found to birth"

He doesn't say the amygdala shuts down, but the process of labour does. He is absolutely correct in saying this, because when a woman experiences fear in labour, adrenalin neutralises oxytocin, which causes contractions to come to a screeching halt.

Later he says "the amygdala shuts down the system", meaning the system of birth and the interplay of hormones that I just described.

I have also been involved in many births, as a doula, and a brief stint as a trainee midwife and as a mother. I can tell you from my experience in all of these situations, that when a woman is afraid, her labour is sabotaged.

I can also tell you from my experience of birthing in a hospital, that hospitals can make a woman terrified. Routine procedures like putting an IV insert into her wrist upon arrival "just in case you need to have a caesarian" do nothing to send a positive message that she is going to be able to deliver with ease.

Telling a woman that her baby is in fetal distress because "It's not moving enough (prior to the onset of established labour), and telling her that "If you don't get it out today, chances are it will have an apgar score of 4 or less and its survival will be compromised" is using absolutely disgraceful fear tactics and is the kind of lies women are told, to get them to agree to hospital procedures like inducing labour at 10 days past the due date.

My amygdala serves me well in remembering these words, because the birth of my little girl was one of the most devastating days of my life. Not because she was in distress (she had apgars of 9 and 10), not because she was born with compromised well-being, she was perfectly healthy, but because birthing her was like going into battle.

We had to fight for the right to birth her naturally throughout the entire labour. Eight hours into established and difficult labour (because let me tell you, synthetic pitocin is no party. My cervix tore from the force of its unnaturally rapid dilation) the good doctor wanted to speed things up with an IV!

I'm happy to say that Dag was an amazing advocate for me, and we staved off the lions and did the rest of the labour naturally.

So, if you have any more questions about why hospitals are not a safe place to birth for the happy and healthy, just forward them to me, I'd be happy to tell you details of not-so-lucky women.

In reply to your comment:
Deathcow, I'm not sure how closely you read into my previous comment, but I'm not talking about his conclusions. I agree to a large extent with his larger social and economic reasoning for why hospitals push women towards surgical procedures and chemically-induced contractions to speed up births. But that's no excuse for scientifically inaccurate claims. He's wrong. There's no two ways about it. Unless of course, in the middle of all those births, you witnessed some poor woman's amygdala shutting down and stopping her contractions in the middle of labor because a hospital setting scared her.

aidos (Member Profile)

persephone says...

Hey aidos, are you in Oz?

In reply to your comment:
We're praising the French nuclear policies now? If they're so convinced of the safety of their nuclear activities they should run the tests in their own backyards, not on the other side of the world in mine.

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