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10768 (Member Profile)

Irishman says...

I am not interested in their culture nor am I any kind of expert on it, nor do I want to meddle in it or try to change it by words or by action.

I am interested in campaigning against human rights abuses which have been ongoing in that part of the world since before I was born.

Their culture and their religion is not my business, how they govern themselves and choose to live is entirely up to them as a free and sovereign nation.

You appear to be of the opinion that because you do not agree with their scriptures or their culture that they are to blame for their own slaughter. I find that offensive and ignorant.

You are very ill informed of these people, do not take others words for it, go and see for yourself, travel, meet, talk, immerse, discuss. Until then read what you want to read and think whatever you want, but do not for one second think that you can represent a culture which is entirely alien to you and you have not experienced.

Palestinian darlings?
Fellow human beings who are screaming to the world for help.
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"Hezbollah, Hamas and all the Palestinian people have no interest in attacking Israel, that is complete nonsense...
I can assure you categorically that Ismail Haniyeh's offer of a truce was taken very seriously, it was a huge breakthrough at the time."

Irishman - This illustrates how little you understand about the culture of your Palestinian darlings.

Any offer of peace is Taqiyya (a deception) used to establish a Hudna (temporary truce in order to rebuild armed might). It's in the koran, and is specifically condoned when dealing with non-muslims (Christians and Jews)

Read it sometimes, and realize that it is worshipped by islamists as a literal command and example of how to behave. This differs from Christians and Jews, who regard their holy texts as metaphorical or antiquated as (unprovoked) mass killings are concerned.

Your passion it admirable, but tragically misguided.

10768 (Member Profile)

Irishman says...

Would you like me to google it for you?


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Was this busy market collateral damage?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cyk7zH6DeE&fmt=22

What about civilians executed on the street during the last 18 months by Israeli police enforcing illegal blockades?

What about the civilans being given 7 minutes to abandon their homes before blowing them up?

What about the Depleted Uranium being used in Gaza right now?

After another few days of this you will see how very wrong you are.

Yes, the market shelling is collateral damage: a sad but predictable result of Hamas' aggression. The blood is on their heads.

"Illegal Blockades" you give no example.

"Civilians given 7 minutes to leave their homes" Extraordinary efforts by the IDF ti avoid civilan casualties. If Hamas were half so humane, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

"Depleted Uranium" You make me laugh!


"Another few days" We'll see. It's going swimingly so far. Hamas will never be an honorable foe, but the more sent to allah, the better.

10768 (Member Profile)

Irishman says...

Was this busy market collateral damage?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cyk7zH6DeE&fmt=22

What about civilians executed on the street during the last 18 months by Israeli police enforcing illegal blockades?

What about the civilans being given 7 minutes to abandon their homes before blowing them up?

What about the Depleted Uranium being used in Gaza right now?

After another few days of this you will see how very wrong you are.

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In a battle of this intensity, there will be collateral damage. Israel goes to extraordinary efforts to avoid this, even calling neighbors before they bomb Hamas facilities, warning them to evacuate. Hamas on the other hand routinely targets civilains as their S.O.P.

If "Medics" have been injured, perhaps they shouldn't use ambulances as troop carriers. (See my post at link)

http://www.videosift.com/video/Hamas-using-UN-ambulances-as-troop-carriers

10768 (Member Profile)

Irishman says...

I've replied on the thread.

Extremist cultures thrive and become dangerous under oppression - this is what happened in my country. They don't just pop up out of nowhere. And still that culture exists although it has become highly politicised and peaceful in the last 10 years. This is why there has always been solidarity between Ireland and Palestine, there are Palestinian flags and murals in the city where I live.

Israel is now engaged in genocide and the whole world knows it. There is no justification for genocide, ever.

People are being slaughtered out there, trying to justify where you lay blame just isn't good enough.

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Irishman - A moving and artistic bit of cinema; with all the honesty of a Leni Riefenstahl film. True, these people lead a tragic existance, because of their sick culture they choose to.

They raise their children on bloodthirsty versions of Mickey Mouse, then send them out with explosives strapped to them. They choose to buy weapons over peaceful impliments. Before the unilateral pullout the Israeli greenhouses in Gaza produced bountiful crops; after, they were smashed in a nihilistic rage.

It's sad, but Gaza has only it's own to blame. I hope for their sake that when this current depraved set of leaders is killed in their tunnels, that the Gazans choose peace and coexistance with the Jews, or it will happen again.

Pprt (Member Profile)

Irishman says...

http://www.videosift.com/video/War-on-Gaza-Demonstrations-Manchester-UK-28-Dec
What faces do you see in this clip?

What about the protests in
Oregon
San Francisco
New York
Tel Aviv
Tehran
Egypt
30+ UK cities
Ireland
Paris
and all over Europe and around the world?

What colour faces do you see there?

You know what, you'll see ALL COLOUR FACES, you'll see people from ALL CULTURES standing in solidarity with Palestine and condemning Israeli genocide.

You should go along to one of these demonstrations, I bet there's one happening near you. You might learn something.

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Take a look at the faces: 0:18, 0:32, 0:50, 1:47, 1:53, 2:15 etc

There was even a Hezbollah flag there (the yellow one) and a poster of Ahmadinejad.

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GeeSussFreeK (Member Profile)

Irishman says...

I completely agree with you - man creates all of these problems. Religion is one of the tools which man uses to shape cultures and ideaologies around the world.

This leaves us with incompatible religions which are all incompatible with modern rationalism, leaving us with conflict between all the world cultures.

Religion is responsible for a much wider change in a believer's perception of reality than a simple following of the teachings of Jesus/Mohammed/Buddha. It is an ideaology which creates boundaries with other conflicting ideaologies.

The irony is that Jesus/Mohammed/Buddha and every other great thinker of the last 3000 years has been preaching the dissolving of boundaries and hierarchy.

The felt presence of a higher reality or an inner intent to all of nature is at the heart of ancient religion and shamanism. This is not what modern religion is. What modern religion is needs to be finished with.

Thanks for your comment

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Hitler was an atheist, Stalin was an atheist. Martin Luther King was a Christian. The problem isn't religion, the problem is man (imo). In other words, if god isn't real, then there is only man. And then that makes religion a man made institute. Thus, its man that is the problem, not religion. Depends on what you mean by religion as well. If you are saying that following Christ's rule of the golden rule, do onto others as you would have them do onto you is a bad thing that causes evil I would have to say what is good then? If you are saying that men corrupt the heart of what that religious body stands for and then uses his power to distort all that he has influence over, then yes, I would agree that is a problem. But the problem still lays with man at that point, not religion.

I don't mean to be adversarial or anything, just trying to stress a point.

But on the topic of the video, I don't agree with his sentements that the only good trooper is a Christian one, lots of people of different faiths and non-faiths have died for this country.

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Religion is one of the most powerful recruting tools available to the US military.


Why else could it be that they so badly want to have creationism taught in schools?
Why else could it be that Commander in Chief must be a christian?
Why else is it that the illegal invasion of Iraq is seeping with religious overtones?

9/11 was a huge message to the world that the problem of religion really must be addressed.

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theaceofclubz (Member Profile)

Irishman says...

Well I have to admit I was wrong!

That physicist couldn't be more wrong about the phones not transmitting when they are recieving/ringing - they always do both at the same time. And the fact that they will interfere with each other would be cumulative interference which is what causes a harmonic. This is why I thought the videos were genuine, because there WILL be standing waves present, of that there is no question - whether there is enough energy in the standing wave to pop corn is another matter, you'd have to do the maths using the standing wave ratios, and that's way out of my league.

I'm surprised that a physicist didn't work out the standing wave ratios, that would have been a proper scientific debunk.



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http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/06/cellphones-cant.html

theaceofclubz (Member Profile)

Irishman says...

There's only one way to prove it and that's to do it! Time to gather up all my old phones...

There are loads of other clips on youtube of this effect...


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A microwave can range between 500-1000 watts and is specifically designed to transfer as much energy as possible onto a target. It still takes minutes to make a kernel pop. These cell phones are making it happen in about 5 seconds using antennas. They would practically have to be alien death rays for that to be possible.
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The supernerd hasn't taken the amplitude increase that occurs between waves of the same frequency into account. The amplitude increase can be as much as ten-fold for most standing wave (harmonic) solutions...

I'm pretty certain that this video is geniune... which is a bit scary

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Choggie's insightful analysis aside, a supernerd at http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=423337 has already applied the science required to debunk it - "Popcorn pops because the water in it turns to steam and a kernel is about 14% water. So, if we assume a kernel of popcorn weighs 1 gram, it has 0.13 grams of water. Heat that water from 30�C to 100�C would take:

(0.14g)*(100�C-3 to turn the water to steam requires he latent heat of vaporization, which is 2259J/g.

2259J*0.14g= 316J for a total of 316J 41J = 357J.

Wattage = Joules/seconds. If it took about 5 seconds to turn the water in the popcorn kernel to steam, then the wattage required was:

357J/5sec = 71W assuming all power from the cell phone transmitter went into the kernel.

Cell phones typically have 0.75W-1W transmitters in them. With a 1W transmitter, it would take,

334J/1W = 334secs, if all power is transfered to the kernel.

Conclusion: since the corn is popping in 5 seconds... completely fake.

edit - as pointed out, corn kernels weigh about 0.25g and there are 4 phones which could be up to 2W each. Therefore, the energy hitting the corn could be 16 times greater. But the other assumption (that all the power is focussed into the water content of just 1 kernel) is most likely wrong by a factor of 100 or more." - NOBODY PANIC

theaceofclubz (Member Profile)

Irishman says...

The supernerd hasn't taken the amplitude increase that occurs between waves of the same frequency into account. The amplitude increase can be as much as ten-fold for most standing wave (harmonic) solutions...

I'm pretty certain that this video is geniune... which is a bit scary

In reply to this comment by theaceofclubz:
Choggie's insightful analysis aside, a supernerd at http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=423337 has already applied the science required to debunk it - "Popcorn pops because the water in it turns to steam and a kernel is about 14% water. So, if we assume a kernel of popcorn weighs 1 gram, it has 0.13 grams of water. Heat that water from 30�C to 100�C would take:

(0.14g)*(100�C-3 to turn the water to steam requires he latent heat of vaporization, which is 2259J/g.

2259J*0.14g= 316J for a total of 316J 41J = 357J.

Wattage = Joules/seconds. If it took about 5 seconds to turn the water in the popcorn kernel to steam, then the wattage required was:

357J/5sec = 71W assuming all power from the cell phone transmitter went into the kernel.

Cell phones typically have 0.75W-1W transmitters in them. With a 1W transmitter, it would take,

334J/1W = 334secs, if all power is transfered to the kernel.

Conclusion: since the corn is popping in 5 seconds... completely fake.

edit - as pointed out, corn kernels weigh about 0.25g and there are 4 phones which could be up to 2W each. Therefore, the energy hitting the corn could be 16 times greater. But the other assumption (that all the power is focussed into the water content of just 1 kernel) is most likely wrong by a factor of 100 or more." - NOBODY PANIC

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Irishman says...

Terence McKenna is not talking about the pretentious monetised art industry, he is talking about actual real art that comes from the chaos of the imagination that is our birthright. Art is the antithesis of the machinary that culture makes us. Art is the polar opposite of culture. Real art breaks down boundaries while culture erects boundaries and rules. Real art stirs emotion, while culture seeks to limit, rationalise and control emotion.

The inspiration that invokes great art on a blank piece of canvas is the same exact inspiration that makes a man want to walk on the moon, or write a symphony, or build an airplane. It is not culture that leads to these things. This is what Terence believed we must recapture, in what he called an 'archaic revival'.





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Fight culture with ART?

And I suppose you don't need a GALLERY, this monument of culture, to put your pretentious shit in either?

Artist should just get money from all those pesky plebs directly and not through CULTURE TAX SCHEMES?

Everyone should just sit in the great outdoors finger painting and starving to death.

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