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SiftDebate: What are the societal benefits to having guns? (Controversy Talk Post)

aimpoint says...

Part of the love of firearms comes from positive associations with firearms. If we grew up with them in a positive light, then we are more likely to see them in a positive light. But when someone else demands that they be taken away (or at least the appearance of taking away) access to certain/all firearms, its taking away a part of the person.

In regards to quoting statistics of gun related deaths, I think the focus should be more on the violent mentality behind the death. The scenario I picture is one guy angry at another guy, so he does what he can to hurt the other guy. If he has a gun, he'll use it. If he has a knife, he'll use it. If he uses the gun, he may have a much greater chance of killing the other guy before his anger subsides. If he has a knife, his anger may subside before the other guy is dead. Put simply, the gun amplifies the effect of a violent mentality, murders may go down, but aggravated assaults may go up. The underlying violence is still there.

(USA Statistics)

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl20.xls

-Firearms take the lead for murders. Note these statistics do not include "justified manslaughter" what the legal system deemed to be deaths that were justified (ie self-defence)

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl21.xls

-For robberies, they look like the play a significant part but are still shared with others (I didn't really get into it as the numbers are a bit varied and I wanted to keep the post focused)

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl22.xls

-Aggravated assaults, firearms generally play a smaller role as compared to robberies or murders.



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