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oxdottir (Member Profile)

gorgonheap says...

Hey Oxi,
So I just sent a reply to the Cap about the Geek and Engineering channels and their respective domains. I don't really see it as a problem but perhaps a clarification of the video types we look for in our channels would be welcome if there is confusion. I'll draw the Venn diagram! Cheers!

To Cap:
Well the supreme authority of what Geek means (Miriam Webster dictionary:) 1: a carnival performer often billed as a wild man whose act usually includes biting the head off a live chicken, bat or snake 2: a person often of an intellectual bent who is disliked 3: an enthusiast or expert especially in a technological field or activity". There is quite an overlap between the two channels.

engineering covers a wide range (computers, mechanics, architecture.) And Geek covers many overlapping fields (computers, mechanics, LARP fest.) I'll talk to the pastry looking owner of sifts newest channel.

Regards!

CaptWillard (Member Profile)

gorgonheap says...

Well the supreme authority of what Geek means (Miriam Webster dictionary: 1: a carnival performer often billed as a wild man whose act usually includes biting the head off a live chicken, bat or snake 2: a person often of an intellectual bent who is disliked 3: an enthusiast or expert especially in a technological field or activity". There is quite an overlap between the two channels.

engineering covers a wide range (computers, mechanics, architecture.) And Geek covers many overlapping fields (computers, mechanics, LARP fest.) I'll talk to the pastry looking owner of sifts newest channel.

Regards!

In reply to this comment by CaptWillard:
I just sent this message to oxdottir, and I feel it's appropriate for you to know too. Nothing controversial, mind you. I only want some clarification.

Wow, in a couple of short days the Engineering channel has over 16 pages of videos. Of course I realize that many people, just like me, reviewed all their videos and retroactively applied the Engineering tag, but that's still very impressive. I've always thought that the "Geek" channel was too broad. However, could you tell me when something is Geek and NOT Engineering, or the other way around, or both? To me, "Geek" ALWAYS means enthusiast of some sort or another. For example, there are comic book "geeks", but that has nothing to do with engineering. However computer design is both geek AND engineering. Can you name examples of anything that is Engineering but NOT Geek, besides what I already mentioned?

In other words, I'm a little confused. Maybe a Venn diagram would help. Gorgonheap is the maestro of the Geek channel; maybe you and he need to draw up a Sift Talk post that clearly defines what both defines and delineates your channels. I would appreciate it.

I hope I'm not coming across as an anal-retentive anus. I only want to be precise in my channel assignments.

Thanks in advance.

CaptWillard (Member Profile)

oxdottir says...

Well, I'm ok with a little chaos.

To me, geek is a cultural thing, and engineering can be everything from engineering ethics, to math applications, to gadgets. If something is about how to produce something, or how a design failed, it might not be geek. For instance, the first page of engineering has almost no geek, because it's about stuff like how to do sound engineering, how to put a himi in a trike, how to demolish, or fail to demolish, a building.

It's harder for me to think of things that would be geek but not engineering, but you came up with an example.


In reply to this comment by CaptWillard:
Wow, in a couple of short days the Engineering channel has over 16 pages of videos. Of course I realize that many people, just like me, reviewed all their videos and retroactively applied the Engineering tag, but that's still very impressive. I've always thought that the "Geek" channel was too broad. However, could you tell me when something is Geek and NOT Engineering, or the other way around, or both? To me, "Geek" ALWAYS means enthusiast of some sort or another. For example, there are comic book "geeks", but that has nothing to do with engineering. However computer design is both geek AND engineering. Can you name examples of anything that is Engineering but NOT Geek, besides what I already mentioned?

In other words, I'm a little confused. Maybe a Venn diagram would help. Gorgonheap is the maestro of the Geek channel; maybe you and he need to draw up a Sift Talk post that clearly defines what both defines and delineates your channels. I would appreciate it.

I hope I'm not coming across as an anal-retentive anus. I only want to be precise in my channel assignments.

Thanks in advance.

gorgonheap (Member Profile)

CaptWillard says...

I just sent this message to oxdottir, and I feel it's appropriate for you to know too. Nothing controversial, mind you. I only want some clarification.

Wow, in a couple of short days the Engineering channel has over 16 pages of videos. Of course I realize that many people, just like me, reviewed all their videos and retroactively applied the Engineering tag, but that's still very impressive. I've always thought that the "Geek" channel was too broad. However, could you tell me when something is Geek and NOT Engineering, or the other way around, or both? To me, "Geek" ALWAYS means enthusiast of some sort or another. For example, there are comic book "geeks", but that has nothing to do with engineering. However computer design is both geek AND engineering. Can you name examples of anything that is Engineering but NOT Geek, besides what I already mentioned?

In other words, I'm a little confused. Maybe a Venn diagram would help. Gorgonheap is the maestro of the Geek channel; maybe you and he need to draw up a Sift Talk post that clearly defines what both defines and delineates your channels. I would appreciate it.

I hope I'm not coming across as an anal-retentive anus. I only want to be precise in my channel assignments.

Thanks in advance.

oxdottir (Member Profile)

CaptWillard says...

Wow, in a couple of short days the Engineering channel has over 16 pages of videos. Of course I realize that many people, just like me, reviewed all their videos and retroactively applied the Engineering tag, but that's still very impressive. I've always thought that the "Geek" channel was too broad. However, could you tell me when something is Geek and NOT Engineering, or the other way around, or both? To me, "Geek" ALWAYS means enthusiast of some sort or another. For example, there are comic book "geeks", but that has nothing to do with engineering. However computer design is both geek AND engineering. Can you name examples of anything that is Engineering but NOT Geek, besides what I already mentioned?

In other words, I'm a little confused. Maybe a Venn diagram would help. Gorgonheap is the maestro of the Geek channel; maybe you and he need to draw up a Sift Talk post that clearly defines what both defines and delineates your channels. I would appreciate it.

I hope I'm not coming across as an anal-retentive anus. I only want to be precise in my channel assignments.

Thanks in advance.

Geek AND Tech, or two for the price of one? (Sift Talk Post)

Geek AND Tech, or two for the price of one? (Sift Talk Post)

Moby supports regulation of the internet

MINK says...

you know how a venn diagram works?

so i can agree with him on one thing, and disagree on others.

we all want a free internet, remember.

and sony are a big company but it doesn't mean they aren't losing sales due to people deciding they don't want to pay for their crap any more.

i guess maybe i trust the market on this one a bit more than you, that's all.

i don't always trust the market. and i stopped traffic in london in 2003.

would you rather i choose an antiwar guy like Ron Paul? He is also against handing the FCC regulatory powers. I am always surprised that guys like you are in favour of that sort of thing, and you call it "freeing the internet!" but there ya go.

Farmer Raped by a Cow (NSFW?)

amxcvbcv says...

For those that seem confused, cow is generally used to refer to female cattle that have given birth, although you can use it if an animals gender and age are uncertain.

Heifers - Female cattle that are unbred.
Bulls - Male cattle that are uncastrated.
Steers - Male cattle that are castrated.

I'm imagining a big Venn diagram.

And just for the record, if you ever work cattle or go to a feedlot, you will see heifers/steers trying to mount other heifers/steers. Just because the equipment isn't there doesn't mean they don't try.



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