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Why GM Says Its Ultium Batteries Will Lead To EV Dominance

newtboy says...

Down 32% (not 20, not 30) no matter the excuse why, but if you track the drops the why is obvious, they don’t coincide with new policy, it went up most of 21 thanks to new policy, they coincide directly with Elon’s actions. He started talking about buying Twitter starting April, plummeted, he announced he was doing it April 14, plummeted again….but believe it’s all Biden’s rapidly growing economy and he’s going to destroy Tesla…then why is it a good buy?

bobknight33 said:

Once again @newtboy you speaking from a position if ignorance.

Tesla is down 20 30% due to The economic forces not due to TESLA.

…Bla bla bla- rant- fiction- brain fart- Hunter Biden- you a unsmart dummy guy- bla…

Tesla BLOWS AWAY Expectations. (Q2 2022 Recap )

luxintenebris says...

please. communist?

think about this: one of the cons of communism is if one person is getting all the benefits of working as not working - incentive is nixed.

w/all the mergers of segments of the business world - oil, media suppliers, etc - the effect mirrors communism. w/o serious competition, these companies have less incentive to improve products, increase efficiency, or reduce consumer costs.

to wit: most of the conservative policies are closer to communism than ideas like trust-busting, fair employee compensation, reasonable taxation for high earners, etc.

most of the 'progressive' ideas would spur capitalism, thus the blue is more about the green than the red is about keeping markets stable and healthy.

prefer the idea of regulated capitalism over death through fascism.

what led to '08?

anyway...if you're money is on Tesla*, good luck. good to see a body putting their money where their mouth is. and great to see you in favor of moving away from fossil fuels. investing in the future.

if we can get there.

FYI: interesting article about the marketing of tesla
https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/tesla-masculinity-study?utm_source=digg
from the skinny on the CEO, it is an absolute match.


BTW: keeping up w/the Jan 6 spankings? hard to buy the love of a loon, versus the safety of a nation. shakes a person to the core. all those serene conservatives w/o one iota of spine. if this is your idea of quality leadership - no Tesla stock is gonna fill the void of losing a homeland


*what did E.M. do for Twitter? taught some folks the meaning of 'cozener'.

bobknight33 said:

(edited for efficiency - comment on mainly this utterance)

Biden economy and Communist fuckery is holding Tesla down , not Tesla. Hence it is a great buy.

Tesla BLOWS AWAY Expectations. (Q2 2022 Recap )

bobknight33 says...

How well do you follow Tesla? Most likely you answer is near zero. But you sure have all the answers.


Once again You foolishness is on full display. Cherry picking numbers? Thats ok

I said it was down a great amount. 20% or your 32% pick your date pick you %. Does not matter.

IF chicken was on sale 20% or 32% below normal pricing you would buy? Same with Tesla.


This is due to the overall economy. not from anything Tesla is doing. Tesla is is growing. 84% last year and 70% the year before.

This Q2 growth was only 50% . Mostly due the china shutdown. China is back up and running and at record capacity.



Biden economy and Communist fuckery is holding Tesla down , not Tesla. Hence it is a great buy.

Maybe your just a Union only guy? Thats OK.


Regardless of current stock price., who wouldn't want to buy the stock of a company growing 50% YOY?

I follow daily. I have about 1500 shares in the Tesla. And your are right I am down from that $1200 high. But I'm looking long term. 5 year min. I see explosive growth over nest 8 years.

Tesla goal is to make 20Million vehicles/year. Last year nearly 80 million vehicles were made globally. ICE vehicle sales are declining about 7% YoY since 2017. Al the while EV sales are growing.

What side of the fence do you wan t to be on? When Apple entered phone market they were a computer company. Today they have 20% of the phone market .



Apparently not the great intellectual foolish and ignorant @newtboy , who know everything about everything.


Finally, Now you want Elon to buy Twitter?
$1 billion penalty. That nothing to Elon.

Guess if MSNBC says something it must be true.
Newt, your one gullible dude, lady, sis whatever.

newtboy said:

Crushing it…Down 32.6% ytd from $1199 Jan 3 to $815 today, not 20%….why must you lie in every post?
Be prepared for it to plummet if Elon is forced to go through with buying Twitter or even pay the $1 billion cancellation fee, because he will have to sell that much Tesla stock to pay.

Tesla BLOWS AWAY Expectations. (Q2 2022 Recap )

newtboy says...

Crushing it…Down 32.6% ytd from $1199 Jan 3 to $815 today, not 20%….why must you lie in every post?
Be prepared for it to plummet if Elon is forced to go through with buying Twitter or even pay the $1 billion cancellation fee, because he will have to sell that much Tesla stock to pay.

bobknight33 said:

This news made stock go up $72.62 %9.78 today.

Today's close $815.12 .. Still a great buy due to Bidenomics.
Down 20% from its high this year.

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City of Akron responding to the shooting of Jayland Wlaker

newtboy says...

You absolutely deviate from that.
You never see wrong from Orange people, and rarely from white, but see nothing but wrong from darker skinned people.

You just see white and black and think it’s the same thing as right and wrong.

I don’t judge people by anything but actions….that leaves most people on my shit list, melanin levels have no bearing on that.
Outfit?

Yes, it is hypocritical because, yes, you did back Bundy at the time and were outraged he was shot, even though he took over a park armed, threatened rangers and police, shot his gun, and fled from police before being shot still armed. Hard to handle that with the courts when he’s on the highway shooting.
You supporting him and were angry, saying those cops didn’t need to shoot him, but are cheering on cops shooting an unarmed man running away no longer threatening anyone… 60 times. The difference? One was extremely more dangerous, violent, armed, and white. You only see the other one as the problem. That’s hypocritical.
I see 60 shots as the problem, and don’t believe the police version that he even fired his gun without proof.

Government overreach? Are you talking about Bundy’s other anti government armed action when he stole grazing from public lands and held off law enforcement with an armed violent militia, which you supported? Cheering him on for refusing to pay for using public lands for private profits and using deadly force against law enforcement? I’m talking about when he violently took over a park for months with more armed violent militia….which you also supported.

My life is pretty good. I have empathy for those less fortunate. I know you can’t understand thinking about someone else’s situation, but it used to be considered normal…real conservatives know that.

Lol…I’m not on any other social media at all, and I rarely get my news here. Sucker. Nice try, but I look for actual sources, not nut jobs saying what I want to hear, like Trump who got the election fraud fraud from an anonymous Twitter account.
It’s pretty telling that you think the way to “truth and understanding “ is remove all sources of information. What exactly do your eyes see with your head in that dark hole? Mine are wide open in the sunshine, sunshine. I see not only the “truth”, but also the various attempts at lies, and being (and keeping myself) fairly well educated I can tell the difference, a trait I’m afraid you sorely lack, friend. Thanks so much for the offer, but it’s like a deaf and blind man offering to lead someone with glasses across the freeway.

On the contrary, we’ve been here for you for over a decade, calmly explaining reality as you scream nonsense and fear monger. We will be here tomorrow. Assuage your fear of abandonment and maybe you can begin to think rationally.

bobknight33 said:

Wrong is wrong and I've never deviated from that. You see the color of ones skin or outfit and judge.

I just see right and wrong.

You judge by color first.


Running from the cops and shooting you gun while flying and then get shot for you own actions is your own damn fault.


Me pointing it out is not racist or hypocritical .

You thinking it is makes you a narrow minded fool.


Did I back Bundy? Even with "government overreach" this should have been handled by the courts.

Newt, you really come off as a educated bitter little man. You must have been screwed over in you life to carry such a big chip on your shoulder.

I'm here for you. I can lead you to truth and understanding.
Step 1 Turn off all news and social media for 2 months.
Step 2 open you eyes to reality.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

$2.5 million so far on Jan 6. Not $40-60 million, but that would still be worth it. Safeguarding democracy is cheap at that price. Plenty of importance has come to light, but I wouldn’t expect you to know or acknowledge that, you are certainly remaining willfully ignorant of what’s come to light just like mr mushroom tip told you to do, and no one knows what the closed door testimony was yet besides the DOJ.
It cost near $500000000 to safeguard DC in the months after Jan 6…$2.5 million is literally 1/2 of 1% of one cost of Jan 6.

So let’s talk Benghazi, just one report of 13 cost taxpayers $7 million. So far, the Republicans have wasted $22 million on Benghazi, and $100 million total on investigating Clinton with no charges and no revelations of import, and no infractions Trump didn’t repeat.

Right. A concerted effort to perform a violent coup coupled with a second concerted effort to defraud the election using fake electors with forged documentation and a lie about election fraud is, to you, nothing of importance.
Sorry, I find democracy important.
Sorry, I find the constitution to be important.
Sorry, I find treasonous sedition against the union to be important.
I think prosecuting 874 seditious traitors to America and the constitution is important, and i think uncovering who the other appropriately 1100 more are is important.
I think knowing Trump knew his fraudulent voter fraud scheme was illegal before it started is important (since he was declared too stupid to know working with Russia to discredit Clinton was illegal in the past).
I think knowing the voter fraud theory came from something a drunken Giuliani found on Facebook or Twitter with no evidence, before the votes were counted, was important.
I think uncovering the begging for pardons by senators and representatives that planned the coup is important (it’s an admission of guilt and of knowledge of a crime).
I think a Supreme Court judge’s involvement in the coup is important.
That’s barely scratching the surface of important evidence that’s come to light so far.

This….this is why we say you are probably a Russian. You act like defending democracy and the American government are nothing important and nobody cares. No American would think that, but it is true that you SAYING something doesn’t mean you actually think it’s true.

bobknight33 said:

how much has been spent on investigation Trump ? 40 ---- 60 Million and still nothing of importance has come to light.

Wake up from you delusional dream and accept reality.

Elon’s Next Big Idea- Put Cocaine Back In Coca-cola

cloudballoon says...

Why do people even enabling him outside of his businesses?

Yeah, he just said his Texas & Shanghai plants are burning millions and requires "focus." But all he talks about most is Twitter, cocaine & misc BS.

Ameca and the most realistic AI robots. Beyond Atlas.

JiggaJonson says...

I'd be doing weird promotion if I were you too, given:

New Tesla factories losing billions of dollars, Musk says https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61905276

Fox Hosts Slam Elon Musk Over Tesla Layoff Comment, Twitter Dealings
https://www.newsweek.com/fox-hosts-slam-elon-musk-over-tesla-layoff-comment-twitter-dealings-1713226

Elon Musk: Tesla plants in Austin and Germany are losing ‘billions of dollars’ https://www.dallasnews.com/business/autos/2022/06/22/elon-musk-tesla-plants-in-austin-and-germany-are-losing-billions-of-dollars/


You really got it all figured out @bobknight33

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

It dropped precipitously because Elon was buying Twitter and would have to sell billions of stock to pay for it, just to name one self inflicted wound. The economic state should benefit Tesla, as you say, with gas at $5 and rising, ev’s are in high demand.

Gas in Canada is $6.75 US. UK is $5.75 in usd. Europe is around $5.25. But sure, it’s all Biden’s fault. Meanwhile my Exon, BP, and energy mutual funds are reporting record profits….but there’s no correlation. Hmmm.

I guess you didn’t hear Elon decided to cut his workforce by 10% anticipating a slump in sales. Elon doesn’t share your optimism.

Isn’t his major production hurdle a worldwide chip shortage, which he can do nothing about? Not sure how he’s going to ramp up production without more chips.

China isn’t the only economy in trouble….where is this unsold production supposed to go? Europe?…in trouble. US?… looking like we’re in trouble and a logistics nightmare. How much does shipping add to the price too? $5k? More?

All car manufacturers raised prices multiple times last year significantly, they all have a shortage of chips. I think it’s more likely he raised prices because he could without slowing down sales, not in order to slow sales.

Granted, ev’s are in high demand, but the big 3 are ramping up production and will outbuild Tesla in short order, as are European and Asian companies. He’s done great without competition, but some real competition is coming. The electric F150 is going to produce around 15000 this year with over 120000 (edit now 200000) reservations. They built a billion dollar factory for it alone, it will be the best selling full sized ev truck as soon as production starts. They also won’t have a chip constraint because they can take them from their huge f-150 supplies to meet production estimates.

If you want Tesla stock it’s not the worst time to invest, that was last November, but I certainly wouldn’t go all in. The PE ratio is still near 100….GAWD AWFUL. That’s called a speculative bubble….they pop. Ask Twitter.


Sorry about your dad. Mine died when I was 21. It’s never easy.

bobknight33 said:

I respectively disagree.

This is the buy of the year. 40% off from its high. Not from anything Tesla has done ( or not done) but from the economic state America is going through.

I don't think this will turn around till our leadership changes in 2024


Since last qtr 2021 Tesla opened 2 Giga Factories Texas and in Germany. They are ramping up and will get full speed in 2 years. This year expect 200 thousand from these as they ramp.

Giga Shanghai was shut down and lost 50, 000 vehicles of production. They reopened fully 2 weeks ago . China economy is taking a big hit. But what isn't sold will be ship and sold elsewhere.


2022 yearly estimate production is still about 1.5 M vehicles for the year.

Wait time from order to delivery is average 7 months. Tesla increase their prices 8 times last year to keep this 7 months from getting worse.

Demand out strips supply.


Gas at 5$/gal isn't helping the ICE vehicles at all and will push EV demand even higher.


Like I said

This is the buy of the year. 40% off from its high.
Also looks like a stock split of 3 to 1 is coming. This does nothing but make it cheaper for those who would like to enter this. One can do so at a lower, affordable price point.



Buy and hold



Buy 10 shares and hold for 5 o 10 years.





FYI.
My dad passed away last month on the 28th. I've been out of work tending to him and now settling the estate.

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Hayes: NRA "Good Guy With A Gun" Theory Failed In Real Time

luxintenebris says...

haven't read that. or heard it. or even fever dreamt it.

sounds like one of those wack-a-doodle wing-nut posting jobbies.

ever occur to y'all...that not even Rupert Murdock supports unregulated guns? one of your deities doesn't agree w/you!

think about that.

the boss of your handlers rather you NOT have a gun.


this time, me and Rup' are on the same page.

additional thoughts: https://twitter.com/LifeIndiscreet/status/1530579942651600896

BTW: since you cited Obama's CDC data - check on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_Amendment

bobknight33 said:

The NRA was formed to teach southern blacks to defend themselves from the racist southern Democrats

newtboy (Member Profile)

JiggaJonson says...

"The car-maker’s share price has cratered since Musk announced his buyout plan, shedding more than 30 percent of its value over the course of a month."

https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/25/23141940/elon-musk-tesla-twitter-margin-loan-buyout-deal

You're right about it being a relatively good time to buy the stock (always buy on bad news) but last I checked, you seemed keen around here https://videosift.com/video/Why-I-8482-m-ALL-IN-On-Tesla-Stock


At the very least, unless you bought stock in Tesla before Dec 2020 - OR - very specifically the month of June 2021, you're in the Red. At worst, you're down 30%.

But you're right, it IS a great time to buy that stock...because it's doing so amazingly fucking incredibly poorly. However, what's the stock gonna do when the S.E.C. comes ah-huntin for them shady deals that Musk seems to be runnin by acting like a lunatic in thinly veiled price manipulation schemes???

One maxim i've found true, rich people get mad when you mess with their money. They even get mad when other rich people do it.

About your brain damage, how exactly is it joe biden's fault? EXACTLY?

bobknight33 said:

It’s a fantastic time to buy Tesla stock. Truly this is a “thank Joe Biden”

WRT to twitter musk trying to get a true sense of fake accounts and bots

newtboy (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

It’s a fantastic time to buy Tesla stock. Truly this is a “thank Joe Biden”

WRT to twitter musk trying to get a true sense of fake accounts and bots

newtboy said:

Interesting….Elon was buying Twitter in part to reinstate Trump’s account…because that would obviously increase traffic and the company’s value (he assumes).
Turns out that, in order to get investment in Truth Social (which Trump calls Troth Sential) Trump had to sign contracts promising to not only post on truth central, but to EXCLUSIVELY post on truth central. (The company buying it also had to put out a statement to investors warning them that Trump’s business record is horrible, listing the companies he ran into bankruptcy or that were deemed to be frauds but not the rest that just failed).

Not good for Musk. The Twitter fiasco, trying to buy his way into political discourse, has backfired terribly…it’s going to cost him $1 BILLION to walk away, and there’s no other option, the company is worth around 1/2 of his purchase price. That deal dragged Tesla stock down to near 1/2 its previous value. Not a good time to be all in.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Interesting….Elon was buying Twitter in part to reinstate Trump’s account…because that would obviously increase traffic and the company’s value (he assumes).
Turns out that, in order to get investment in Truth Social (which Trump calls Troth Sential) Trump had to sign contracts promising to not only post on truth central, but to EXCLUSIVELY post on truth central. (The company buying it also had to put out a statement to investors warning them that Trump’s business record is horrible, listing the companies he ran into bankruptcy or that were deemed to be frauds but not the rest that just failed).

Not good for Musk. The Twitter fiasco, trying to buy his way into political discourse, has backfired terribly…it’s going to cost him $1 BILLION to walk away, and there’s no other option, the company is worth around 1/2 of his purchase price. That deal dragged Tesla stock down to near 1/2 its previous value. Not a good time to be all in.



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