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Teachers Sabotage Don’t Say Gay Law By Following It

JiggaJonson says...

Teacher here. It's made-up-nonsense. I don't give a shit what gender or sexual orientation a kid is and im CERTAINLY not going to try to convince anyone to change anything about themselves.

That said, I'm going to acknowledge that gay/trans people exist in authorship and literature as it arises. You can't read someone like Whitman (Leaves of Grass, arguably America's greatest poet) and not come across references to sexuality either implicit or explicit. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45472/i-sing-the-body-electric

It becomes relevant in passages like this:

5
This is the female form,
A divine nimbus exhales from it from head to foot,
It attracts with fierce undeniable attraction,
I am drawn by its breath as if I were no more than a helpless vapor, all falls aside but myself and it,
Books, art, religion, time, the visible and solid earth, and what was expected of heaven or fear’d of hell, are now consumed,
Mad filaments, ungovernable shoots play out of it, the response likewise ungovernable,
Hair, bosom, hips, bend of legs, negligent falling hands all diffused, mine too diffused,
Ebb stung by the flow and flow stung by the ebb, love-flesh swelling and deliciously aching,
Limitless limpid jets of love hot and enormous, quivering jelly of love, white-blow and delirious juice,
Bridegroom night of love working surely and softly into the prostrate dawn,
Undulating into the willing and yielding day,
Lost in the cleave of the clasping and sweet-flesh’d day.

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Maybe a conversation like:

"'Love flesh swelling' like he's in love with some woman and they...he...?"

"Probably not, he didn't have any serious female relationships as far as I am aware."

"But the title is 'The female form'"

"Well, it's possible, but it's not likely the case that he was talking about himself being in love with a woman. This poem is in the text but he wrote many other pieces about he-himself falling into and out of love with various men and we have letters documenting those relationships with his male significant others. Although, I'm not sure what to call them because gay marriage would have been illegal at the time. He's likely writing the poem in a way where he appreciates the female form and sees men who are drawn to it like the way I appreciate watching bees act obsessively driven to the middle of flowers. I like watching Bees in action, but that doesn't mean I'm going all pollen crazy, still I appreciate it for what it is."
-------------------

This is an example of how discussion of sexuality would come up in my classroom as I imagine it. Note how I'm not trying to convince the kid I'm talking to to turn gay like it's a big game of rainbow-red-rover or something. Nevertheless, knowing the author's sexual preference in this instance informs our understanding of the piece.


My own personal theory?
The people railing against things like this are the same shitheads that can't be bothered to read ANYTHING and instead giggle and guffaw at "hurhurhurhur he hadd'a boner" where I get to live an early stage of Idocracy.

Also, I agree that the "funky stuff" shouldn't be just avoided altogether. For goodness sake, just let teachers have the difficult conversation that everyone is avoiding. Reminds me of when Peggy Hill was struggling to say "Penis" when she was assigned sex ed.


luxintenebris said:

first, how prevalent are these gay symposiums?

been through several flights of kids and yet to hear of one elementary teacher leading a colloquy on homosexuality. very unlikely it's ever been a thing or was so mild or explained deftly it never became a thing.

and no doubt if there was, would have heard about it. case in point:


was asked, "what does 'funky stuff' in the song mean?"

"don't know sweetie. probably slang for 'love'. I'll look it up on the internet."

they listen and ask about EVERYTHING! no more Rick James on the ride home.

***come to think of it, probably wouldn't mind the help.***

New Rule: Conspiracy Weary | Real Time with Bill Maher

newtboy says...

Jesus, Bob, you can't be that dumb....you....just...can't. You repeat debunked conspiracy theories on a video about mentally challenged republican conspiracy theorists?! Why not go on to complain about the illegal alien voters and the fish people infiltrating the intelligence communities too?

Spy-a person who secretly collects and reports information on the activities, movements, and plans of an enemy or competitor.
Informant-a person who shares information.

The details gathered from informants were given to Republicans last week, and they left the meeting supporting the Muller investigation, a turn around from before the meeting, but all those republicans must now be liberal Trump haters just lying, right? *facepalm

Plenty of Trump/Russia related information is already public, just not undeniable proof of pure DJT collusion.....yet. (There is enough to prove he is either involved or a brain dead slug of a leader, as only a brain dead slug could possibly not notice every person on the campaign talking and doing business with Russia) Hide and wait.
The Clinton/Whitewater investigation lasted 5+ years and found nothing improper in the deal, you can start whining again in 4 years that it's taking too long to prove his crimes, but absolutely not before.
No one (except the Russians) spied on Trump, but we absolutely should have considering the international ties every person in his campaign had with our enemies that they consistently lied about/hid.
Stop lying, and stop repeating orange Kanye's obvious lies. Asking his people questions is, in no way whatsoever, spying or embedding spies....just didn't happen.
The Fed's DID spy on Clinton, and found no crimes. Odd you aren't outraged by that clear spying on a candidate.....oh wait, you are outraged that they didn't go farther with her.

Conservatives are getting fed up because they can't admit they elected a consummate con man who has destroyed our international standings, our ability to negotiate, the budget, the debt, and civility, and having it shoved in your face makes you mad. You're fed up because he does at least one unpresidential thing daily and it's reported/tweeted.

After >8 years of insane (Kenyan Muslim), ridiculous (pizza gate), non stop (still going on) Obama bashing, you must be incredibly embarrassed that your team can't take 1/4 of what they dish out. Sad little snowflakes.

Beware going to the polls unless you want to be turned gay....and heads up, mail in ballots are impregnated with a virus that turns you into a Muslim.

bobknight33 said:

Spy/informant-- same cheese different box.
FBI has one in the trump org and nothing found.
So shy 17 million spent by Muller on nothing Trump/Russian related/


And one wonders why conservatives are fed up with fake news/ late night Trump bashing 24/7/365 with lies.

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Contraception turns men... gay? Birth control fear mongering

hpqp says...

>> ^bareboards2:

Jezebel lists all the claims http://jezebel.c
om/5948186/birth-control-is-turning-the-men-gay-14-lessons-from-the-most-bizarre-anti+contraception-video-ever
1. Birth control will make it so no man wants to have sex with you.
2. Contraception confuses men and has led to an exponential increase in sluttery.
3. Whore pills will cause your monkey husband to divorce you, and then turn gay.
4. Taking The Pill will literally kill you.
5. Those harlot-enablers you're taking once a day? The same thing as baby murder.
6. Estrogen is in the tap water and it is turning us all into transsexuals.
7. Birth control causes adultery, divorce, abortion, homosexuality, sexually transmitted diseases, promiscuity, adultery, divorce, abortion, homosexuality, sexually transmitted diseases, promiscuity, adultery, divorce, abortion, homosexuality, sexually transmitted diseases,and promiscuity.
8. Let's just come out and say it: birth control means not enough white babies.
9. "The whole birth control mentality" means we get to decide when and how life comes about.
10. That stuff about there not being enough babies? J/K, we only mean there aren't enough babies when we're talking about babies who aren't born from IVF.
11. Contraceptecons are leading to beastiality and sex with children.
12. Sterilization bad because people are more important than racehorses.
13. Pregnancy is not a risk, it's a privilege.
and finally
14. A bunch of dead guys think that contraception is bad.
Popes, guys with woodcut portraits, out-of-context quotes from the Bible. Who can argue with a bunch of dead guys who were never pregnant?


I wish I could *promote this summary...

Contraception turns men... gay? Birth control fear mongering

bareboards2 says...

Jezebel lists all the claims http://jezebel.com/5948186/birth-control-is-turning-the-men-gay-14-lessons-from-the-most-bizarre-anti+contraception-video-ever

1. Birth control will make it so no man wants to have sex with you.
2. Contraception confuses men and has led to an exponential increase in sluttery.
3. Whore pills will cause your monkey husband to divorce you, and then turn gay.
4. Taking The Pill will literally kill you.
5. Those harlot-enablers you're taking once a day? The same thing as baby murder.
6. Estrogen is in the tap water and it is turning us all into transsexuals.
7. Birth control causes adultery, divorce, abortion, homosexuality, sexually transmitted diseases, promiscuity, adultery, divorce, abortion, homosexuality, sexually transmitted diseases, promiscuity, adultery, divorce, abortion, homosexuality, sexually transmitted diseases,and promiscuity.
8. Let's just come out and say it: birth control means not enough white babies.
9. "The whole birth control mentality" means we get to decide when and how life comes about.
10. That stuff about there not being enough babies? J/K, we only mean there aren't enough babies when we're talking about babies who aren't born from IVF.
11. Contraceptecons are leading to beastiality and sex with children.
12. Sterilization bad because people are more important than racehorses.
13. Pregnancy is not a risk, it's a privilege.

and finally

14. A bunch of dead guys think that contraception is bad.
Popes, guys with woodcut portraits, out-of-context quotes from the Bible. Who can argue with a bunch of dead guys who were never pregnant?

Best Argument about Gay Marriage EVAR (Gay Talk Post)

bareboards2 says...

Thank you Jesus!

Chris rewrote his letter with cleaned up language. His reasoning here:

http://blogs.twincities.com/outofbounds/2012/09/08/out-of-bounds-blog-no-8-inquisitive-kitten-pawing-at-yarn/


The letter here (former curse words in all caps):

Dear Emmett C. Burns Jr.,
I find it inconceivable that you are an elected official of the United States government. Your vitriolic hatred and bigotry make me ashamed and disgusted to think that you are in any way responsible for shaping policy at any level. The views you espouse neglect to consider several fundamental key points, which I will outline in great detail (you may want to hire an intern to help you with the longer words):

1. As I suspect you have not read the Constitution, I would like to remind you that the very first, the VERY FIRST Amendment in this founding document deals with the freedom of speech, particularly the abridgment of said freedom. By using your position as an elected official (when referring to your constituents so as to implicitly threaten the Ravens organization) to state that the Ravens should “inhibit such expressions from your employees”, more specifically Brendon Ayanbadejo, not only are you clearly violating the First Amendment, you also come across as a BEAUTIFULLY UNIQUE SPARKLEPONY. What on earth would possess you to be so mind-bogglingly stupid? It baffles me that a man such as yourself, a man who relies on that same First Amendment to pursue your own religious studies without fear of persecution from the state, could somehow justify stifling another person’s right to speech. To call that hypocritical would be to do a disservice to the word. SAD PUPPY DOG EYES hypocritical starts to approach it a little bit.

2. “Many of your fans are opposed to such a view and feel it has no place in a sport that is strictly for pride, entertainment, and excitement.” DISAPPOINTED LEMUR FACE WITH SOLITARY TEAR TRICKLING DOWN TO CHIN. Did you seriously just say that, as someone who’s “deeply involved in government task forces on the legacy of slavery in Maryland”? Have you not heard of Kenny Washington? Jackie Robinson? As recently as 1962 the NFL still had segregation, which was only done away with by brave athletes and coaches daring to speak their mind and do the right thing, and you’re going to say that political views have “no place in a sport”? I can’t even begin to fathom the cognitive dissonance that must be coursing through your rapidly addled mind right now; the mental gymnastics your brain has to tortuously contort itself through to make such a preposterous statement are surely worthy of an Olympic gold medal (the Russian judge gives you a ten for “beautiful oppressionism”).

3. This is more a personal quibble of mine, but why do you hate freedom? Why do you hate the fact that other people want a chance to live their lives and be happy, even though they may believe in something different than you, or act different than you? How does gay marriage, in any way shape or form, affect your life? If gay marriage becomes legal, are you worried that all of a sudden you’ll start thinking about DANCING CHUBTOAD? “ALACK AND ALAS MY TOP HAT HAS FALLEN. Gay marriage just passed. Gotta get me some of that DELICIOUS STATE FAIR HOTDOG!” Will all of your friends suddenly turn gay and refuse to come to your Sunday Ticket grill-outs? (unlikely, gay people enjoy watching football too)
I can assure you that gay people getting married will have zero affect on your life. They won’t come into your house and steal your children. They won’t magically turn you into a lustful FROLICKING OSTRICH. They won’t even overthrow the government in an orgy of hedonistic debauchery because all of a sudden they have the same legal rights as the other 90% of our population, rights like Social Security benefits, child care tax credits, Family and Medical Leave to take care of loved ones, and COBRA healthcare for spouses and children. You know what having these rights will make gays? Full fledged American citizens just like everyone else, with the freedom to pursue happiness and all that entails. Do the civil rights struggles of the past 200 years mean absolutely nothing to you?

In closing, I would like to say that I hope this letter, in some small way, causes you to reflect upon the magnitude of the colossal foot in mouth SLIDE WHISTLE TO E FLAT you so brazenly unleashed on a man whose only crime was speaking out for something he believed in. Best of luck in the next election; I’m fairly certain you might need it.

Sincerely,
Chris Kluwe

p.s. I’ve also been vocal as hell about the issue of gay marriage so you can take your “I know of no other NFL player who has done what Mr. Ayanbadejo is doing” and shove it in your close-minded, totally lacking in empathy piehole and choke on it. UNFORTUNATELY PHALLIC HEDGE SCULPTURE.

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U.S. Airman "comes out" to his father over the phone.

bareboards2 says...

To which the only response is a link to this site:

http://gayhomophobe.com/

>> ^alien_concept:

Typical YouTubing genius:
"FUCK HOMOS!!!! they cant fire a gun right.. theyre too feminine and social fuck them and gay people america is turning gay???? why is this happening?.... lady gaga and all the faggots in our military.. thats why we cant win a fucking war.. to busy fucking sucking dick to shoot a terrorist fuck FAGGOTS!!!"

U.S. Airman "comes out" to his father over the phone.

alien_concept says...

Typical YouTubing genius:

"FUCK HOMOS!!!! they cant fire a gun right.. theyre too feminine and social fuck them and gay people america is turning gay???? why is this happening?.... lady gaga and all the faggots in our military.. thats why we cant win a fucking war.. to busy fucking sucking dick to shoot a terrorist fuck FAGGOTS!!!"

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Can it be a police state if they are wearing shorts?

Yogi says...

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

Did I ever say that they would "successfully sue the city?" No. I did point out that lawsuits happen all the time. My mother was sued like 14 times, in different states, and the woman suing was broke. Suffice to say that drained my mom and she could do nothing about it until she payed a hell of a lot of money for a powerhouse lawyer (Which fucked her further.)
Just because the suits fail doesn't mean they don't do damage Yogi--and that was my point. So intellectual dishonesty my ass.
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
Sad part is--the city would be sued if someone fell off. Not a matter of if, but a matter of when
But to the actual content, why, oh why, do people feel the need to keep talking when they obviously don't know what they are talking about.

WHY!? I don't understand how you can possibly sue the city for something YOU Fucking did! It's like like they shoddily put up two trees that fell on your dumb ass. Either America is more litigious than I think, or the law doesn't work the way you think.

Yes, America is more litigious than you think. Because the law does work the way I think. Take a few cases...
Um, the woman spills HOT coffee on vag, sues McDonald's and wins. Yes, the coffee was hot even for coffee, but that's not the point.
Oh, and the doctor/rapist who sued because the hospital did not protect him or the victim from his attack? Yeah, that was a worthwhile lawsuit. Ultimately the case was thrown out, but I wonder who has to pay (Hint, if he is broke, the hospital. And the taxpayers.)
Lastly, in Michigan, a man got into a fender-bender. He claimed he turned gay because of it, won 200K, then his ex-wife sued, and won 25K...
A man became fat on McDonald's. Since he was manager, he sued because he "had" to sample the menu to ensure freshness. This wasn't in America, but guess what? He won.

I'm sorry but these stories are bullshit unless you compare them to the bullshit lawsuits that got thrown out because of how stupid they are. Coming up with a bunch of stories where stupid lawsuits succeeded is like using Casey Anthony as an example that anyone can get away with murdering their child. It's just not intellectually honest.



14 Times...Your mom deserved it...kill yourself mother fucker.

Can it be a police state if they are wearing shorts?

Lawdeedaw says...

Did I ever say that they would "successfully sue the city?" No. I did point out that lawsuits happen all the time. My mother was sued like 14 times, in different states, and the woman suing was broke. Suffice to say that drained my mom and she could do nothing about it until she payed a hell of a lot of money for a powerhouse lawyer (Which fucked her further.)

Just because the suits fail doesn't mean they don't do damage Yogi--and that was my point. So intellectual dishonesty my ass.

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
Sad part is--the city would be sued if someone fell off. Not a matter of if, but a matter of when
But to the actual content, why, oh why, do people feel the need to keep talking when they obviously don't know what they are talking about.

WHY!? I don't understand how you can possibly sue the city for something YOU Fucking did! It's like like they shoddily put up two trees that fell on your dumb ass. Either America is more litigious than I think, or the law doesn't work the way you think.

Yes, America is more litigious than you think. Because the law does work the way I think. Take a few cases...
Um, the woman spills HOT coffee on vag, sues McDonald's and wins. Yes, the coffee was hot even for coffee, but that's not the point.
Oh, and the doctor/rapist who sued because the hospital did not protect him or the victim from his attack? Yeah, that was a worthwhile lawsuit. Ultimately the case was thrown out, but I wonder who has to pay (Hint, if he is broke, the hospital. And the taxpayers.)
Lastly, in Michigan, a man got into a fender-bender. He claimed he turned gay because of it, won 200K, then his ex-wife sued, and won 25K...
A man became fat on McDonald's. Since he was manager, he sued because he "had" to sample the menu to ensure freshness. This wasn't in America, but guess what? He won.

I'm sorry but these stories are bullshit unless you compare them to the bullshit lawsuits that got thrown out because of how stupid they are. Coming up with a bunch of stories where stupid lawsuits succeeded is like using Casey Anthony as an example that anyone can get away with murdering their child. It's just not intellectually honest.

Can it be a police state if they are wearing shorts?

Yogi says...

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
Sad part is--the city would be sued if someone fell off. Not a matter of if, but a matter of when
But to the actual content, why, oh why, do people feel the need to keep talking when they obviously don't know what they are talking about.

WHY!? I don't understand how you can possibly sue the city for something YOU Fucking did! It's like like they shoddily put up two trees that fell on your dumb ass. Either America is more litigious than I think, or the law doesn't work the way you think.

Yes, America is more litigious than you think. Because the law does work the way I think. Take a few cases...
Um, the woman spills HOT coffee on vag, sues McDonald's and wins. Yes, the coffee was hot even for coffee, but that's not the point.
Oh, and the doctor/rapist who sued because the hospital did not protect him or the victim from his attack? Yeah, that was a worthwhile lawsuit. Ultimately the case was thrown out, but I wonder who has to pay (Hint, if he is broke, the hospital. And the taxpayers.)
Lastly, in Michigan, a man got into a fender-bender. He claimed he turned gay because of it, won 200K, then his ex-wife sued, and won 25K...
A man became fat on McDonald's. Since he was manager, he sued because he "had" to sample the menu to ensure freshness. This wasn't in America, but guess what? He won.


I'm sorry but these stories are bullshit unless you compare them to the bullshit lawsuits that got thrown out because of how stupid they are. Coming up with a bunch of stories where stupid lawsuits succeeded is like using Casey Anthony as an example that anyone can get away with murdering their child. It's just not intellectually honest.

Can it be a police state if they are wearing shorts?

Lawdeedaw says...

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
Sad part is--the city would be sued if someone fell off. Not a matter of if, but a matter of when
But to the actual content, why, oh why, do people feel the need to keep talking when they obviously don't know what they are talking about.

WHY!? I don't understand how you can possibly sue the city for something YOU Fucking did! It's like like they shoddily put up two trees that fell on your dumb ass. Either America is more litigious than I think, or the law doesn't work the way you think.


Yes, America is more litigious than you think. Because the law does work the way I think. Take a few cases...

Um, the woman spills HOT coffee on vag, sues McDonald's and wins. Yes, the coffee was hot even for coffee, but that's not the point.

Oh, and the doctor/rapist who sued because the hospital did not protect him or the victim from his attack? Yeah, that was a worthwhile lawsuit. Ultimately the case was thrown out, but I wonder who has to pay (Hint, if he is broke, the hospital. And the taxpayers.)

Lastly, in Michigan, a man got into a fender-bender. He claimed he turned gay because of it, won 200K, then his ex-wife sued, and won 25K...

A man became fat on McDonald's. Since he was manager, he sued because he "had" to sample the menu to ensure freshness. This wasn't in America, but guess what? He won.



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