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Britain Leaving the EU - For and Against, Good or Bad?

dannym3141 says...

“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.

Tony Benn said that. If the only choice I have is to leave now or never again, then I opt to leave a non- (possibly anti-) democratic system.

I'd stay for the protection it gives us from the Tories, but then I'd be making a lifetime choice based on a 4 year (or less!) problem. I'd stay for "togetherness" but that is just a nice word to describe a bunch of people that intentionally humiliated Greece for the sake of flexing muscle, dooming them to non-recovery for a pound of flesh.

History Lesson from a Liberal Legend

notarobot says...

"Workers in debt are slaves to their employers..."

I'm looking at you, student loans... *promote.

For those who don't know this man (I didn't) he spent 50 years in and out of the British Parliament.

"Anthony Neil Wedgwood "Tony" Benn, PC (3 April 1925 – 14 March 2014), the former 2nd Viscount Stansgate, was a British Labour Party politician who was a Member of Parliament (MP) from 1950 to 2001 (with two short breaks) and a cabinet minister under Harold Wilson and James Callaghan." /wiki

Single Saluting Marine Explains His Service

JiggaJonson says...

"I may run out of ammo but I'll never run out of hugs" sounds eerily like this:
"If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people" - Tony Benn (the man who arguably started Canada's health care system)

If a soldier just coming out of the US military can understand this concept, why can't more people? I guess he is the only one who showed up though. :-(

Religious discussion on The Sunday Edition (ITV1)

Tony Benn: If you wont broadcast the Gaza appeal then I will

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Tony Benn: If you wont broadcast the Gaza appeal then I will

dannym3141 says...

>> ^gorillaman:
Try running through that metaphor again, only this time it's his house, you've kept him locked in the basement for the past 60 years, and no one in the world is interested in helping him get rid of you.


My dad says the same thing re: hamas. Ok, they're shelling another country, and that's bad, and that's as far as he sees it. He doesn't remember/seem to know/care about the poor treatment being suffered.

A piece on the news telling about how they have to tunnel underneath israel into egypt (?) in order to get important food, water and medical supplies out came on TV the other night, and he said "There's no way they're getting food and water in through there." Case closed, for him.

Some people genuinely side with israel.

I side with no one, i think they've both done bad things, but i'm starting to come around to the likeness of "ghetto rioting", and perhaps what hamas has done is in some way "reasonable", in a vague sense of the word.

Tony Benn: If you wont broadcast the Gaza appeal then I will

Don_Juan says...

>> ^gorillaman:
Try running through that metaphor again, only this time it's his house, you've kept him locked in the basement for the past 60 years, and no one in the world is interested in helping him get rid of you.


60 years, and no one in the world is interested in helping him? All the people in the world are slackers? I don't think so!.

Tony Benn: If you wont broadcast the Gaza appeal then I will

dannym3141 says...

Anyone dissing tony benn on this, seriously you need to fuck off.

He didn't fight through armed guards, he didn't battle his way onto the set, no, what he did was go on the show, and do the right thing. Which is more than any of us can do. Especially you with your fucking "oh well done" attitude, he didn't ask for your approval on a knighthood, dickhead.

"Gee, he is very brave. All of those British people without access to the internet, who can't possibly Google around to find a Palestinian charity."

Comments like that are rediculous. By your logic, why would a charity go on TV and advertise? People can simply google!

And shit, people know about world events taking place, why have news programs? People can google.

Why have ANYTHING when you have google, right!?!?!?

IF you can't work out why what you said is stupid, you're too stupid to take part in a conversation here. Go find a lolcat.

Tony Benn: If you wont broadcast the Gaza appeal then I will

Hyperdrive says...

I disagree with Tony Benn on many issues, but I can't help but admire the guy. One of the few politicians who always told it as he saw it. Quite a change from the spin and lies we've become accustomed to.

Tony Benn: If you wont broadcast the Gaza appeal then I will

Tony Benn: If you wont broadcast the Gaza appeal then I will

Irishman says...

The BBC, prior to the Hutton enquiry, would have aired this appeal. Bravery not only to the brilliant Tony Benn, but to the news editors that got him on there knowing full well what he was going to do.

The BBC coverage of this conflict all but stopped after the initial 3 days.

Tony Benn: If you wont broadcast the Gaza appeal then I will

10460 says...

A 'bravery' tag? Are you kidding me? Did I miss the sift where Tony Benn fought through arm guards into the studio and demanded to be interviewed on live TV? There was me thinking that they just phoned him up and asked him to come on national TV for a softball interview knowing full well what his views are and that he had already done exactly the same thing earlier.

I guess I also missed the bit where the BBC is somehow trying to suppress the details of this charity rather than just wanting to distance themselves editorially from it. Having this story on the front page of their news site for 2 days must have confused me.

And bonus points for the Global Zionist Conspiracy popup text. Nice.

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