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A Definitely True Message From George Santos

newtboy says...

No, you say both sides because you can’t admit your “team” has a problem that isn’t ubiquitous.
Again, I show you dozens of individuals intentionally voting multiple times, dozens of campaigns and the party itself engaging in ballot harvesting and other schemes that together equate to hundreds of thousands of stolen votes, you answer “both sides” with absolutely not a single case on the Democrats side (besides the one entrapment case I handed you)….and pretend you won’t provide examples because they’ll be dismissed not because you have none….being dismissed doesn’t stop you from posting all the other propaganda. Knowing you will dismiss the verifiable facts I present you hasn’t stopped me from posting them in contradiction to your baseless propaganda.

I admit Democrats self deal, do insider trading, and sell their votes to deep pockets….but on a scale that’s microscopic compared to the complete lack of ethics and morals on the right. The right was significantly less honest, more money hungry, more corrupt than the left BEFORE Trump….after Trump it’s comparing the Mediterranean to an Olympic sized pool. Technically both have water. Comparatively the pool is completely insignificant….but you only want to focus on what happens in the pool.

Trump and family made literally BILLIONS selling favors. Never been a bigger crook in any office in the land. Greene went from pennyless to a multi millionaire in 2 years. Same for Santos who is a total fraud in every way, a fugitive, and supported by your party…apparently made millions from his campaign. You’ll be hard pressed to find any Republican that hasn’t made millions in office by ignoring ethics completely. You won’t find ANY trying to get big money (bribery) out of politics…only the left is interested in that, the right wants MORE bribery legalized (citizens United was their case, proving Republicans fight for MORE corruption in politics while Democrats fight to end it), the right refuses to divest, and opposes any strengthening of ethics rules EVERY TIME Democrats push for more/stronger ethics rules/laws.

Of course I’ll dismiss your hyper biased, unthinking, no fact idiotic claims, especially since they NEVER have references (because everything you believe is partisan nonsense and lies). It’s not worth the time because it takes no time at all to debunk your constant consistent lies and pure fantasy. If you had any actual facts it would be worth posting them, but you just don’t. You don’t bother to post lately because the stupid lies have gotten dumber and are being debunked as fast as you guys can lie them. It’s past the point where it’s safe to simply deny anything you say as a partisan lie with no investigation at all….chances are 99.96% you are lying or repeating lies any time you type. You never have facts or even references to show where your lies came from….which is totally intentional because you know that only makes debunking them much easier.

In congress….98% of corruption, 100% of child molestation, 100% of treason, 100% of calls to rescind the constitution, voting, and democracy and become a dictatorship are on the right. You call that “both sides” and pretend it’s really mostly a problem on the left with a very few outliers from the right….ignoring the facts….as usual.

You know the old saying….
“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” -Thomas Paine

You sir abandoned fact and reason well before the Traitor Trump rode his golden escalator of lies into your heart. I don’t argue with you except as practice, you have no actual argument to offer, only the far right party lines. I simply tell you the verifiable facts. You then argue with the facts and pat yourself on the head in congratulations. Silly boy.

BTW…have you grown up enough to discuss Ashley Babbitt yet? The treasonous traitor who violently attacked the capitol with an armed gang of thugs trying to overthrow democracy at Trump’s urging and got what they all deserved….your hero.
No, I’m sure you’re still just too embarrassed of how idiotic supporting domestic terrorists is and just hope everyone will forget you stand firmly with the treasonous terrorist traitors against democracy, law, and order.

bobknight33 said:

I say both sides because it is both sides. You just so biased that you done even see it.

I dont bother to post because whats the point - you will just dismiss it an its just not worth the time.


You know the old saying..

“Show me a man that gets rich being a politician and I will show you a crook” Harry s. Truman

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Not everything….my portfolio is growing quite a bit, not shrinking by 63% this year. It grew almost 3% today alone….how about yours?
You mean that “covid dip” when it rose to 400 per share during covid and you were screaming “buy! Go all in now!”? ROTFLMFAHS! WTF are you talking about?
Tesla sells the vast majority of its cars to liberals. Tesla has massively turned off liberals (35% positive to under 10% positive) right as other options came on the market, and gotten slightly more popular (20% positive up to 25%) among conservatives who unfortunately for Tesla don’t buy electric cars. Tesla is unlikely to ever get most back. You should understand, Tesla’s days of near monopoly are over, Musk has to sell tens of billions of Tesla stock to pay his debts, which will drive it MUCH lower. You’ll be lucky if it ever gets this good again….and it’s guaranteed to go lower soon. It’s a good time to short, not buy.
FYI- Tesla cut prices by 9%+- in China, and $4k in the US because it seems so many preordered cars have had their orders cancelled and there’s a glut of unsold cars. Not exactly the booming business predicted. That 50% growth is sounding wildly optimistic right now….because today they’re shrinking. 🤦‍♂️

Jan 6 hearings were bi partisan. MAGgot Republicans didn’t want an independent investigation, and all but boycotted this one. No whining now, you asked to be left out.
To paraphrase Roger Stone…You lost. Democracy won. Fuck you. No. You lost. Fuck you!
The insurrection was a one sided seditious act, and a circle jerk by morons. It would be impossible to not find any crimes to refer. What they found is way more than enough to put him in prison for life.
Funny how you LOVE one sided investigations of liberals, like all 12 Clinton investigations, and the planned Hunter Biden investigation (that is a pure partisan one sided planned congressional investigation of a private citizen…a real nothing burger) and all the moronic “investigations “ that are the totality of the Republican platform, but denounce bipartisan investigations of Cons as “one sided”. Pick one. Are one sided investigations just theater? Then call out all the MAGA theater. Are they serious and legitimate? Then find a new baseless fantasy accusation against the Jan 6 committee.

Naaa, friendo. Me and the official ANTIFA organization go to battle fully naked covered in vaseline and glitter. Makes it impossible to keep hold of us, and forces uncomfortable explanations when our enemies get home to their wives sweaty, covered in Vaseline and glitter claiming they were at work!

bobknight33 said:

150 and falling just like everything else. Fud not helping but a great time to buy... I still expect it to go lower. Im sitting in cash.. If I were to buy today I would pick up an extra 1500 shares. FYI TESLA firing on all cylinders 50% growth YoY expected. These opportunities only come around every decade or so. The 2020 Covid dip was also a great time to take advantage of . Did you? I did.

The globe is in a recession not just Tesla -- Compare to Amazon and see.
Average recession lasts 18 months. Q1/Q2 2023 will be worse.

Jan 6 hearings was 1 sided -- a circle jerk committee . I would be surprised id the "didn't" find anything to refusal......... Just BS

No biker gear-- that's newt and his Antifa buddies.

surfingyt (Member Profile)

newtboy jokingly says...

Hey! Are you calling me a conservative?…or is reflexive partisan contrarianism proper and called for from liberals?
Are we not at the point where it’s safe to, without thinking, just take the opposite position to any “conservative” position and feel certain you are correct based on nothing more than the knowledge that the conservative position is always totally backwards and wrong?

surfingyt said:

A pillar of modern "conservatism" is reflexive partisan contrarianism.

newtboy (Member Profile)

surfingyt says...

A pillar of modern "conservatism" is reflexive partisan contrarianism.

newtboy said:

So, your guy is, once again, ripping off Republicans.

This time by “fundraising” for Hershel Walker with a scheme that quietly gives 90% of every donation to Trump, not Walker.

“Contribute any amount immediately to the Official Georgia Runoff Fundraising Goal and increase your impact by 1200%” which then auto defaults to Trump getting 90% Walker getting 10% with only a hidden link to see how it’s allocated….and the 1200% thing means they WILL try to withdraw the donation 12 times…a scheme they keep using, keep getting caught, are forced to return huge amounts of money, then they do it again.

Just like his stop the steal fundraising where 100% went into his pockets not a dime towards fighting his big lie in court.

Just like Bannon’s fake border wall charity where Bannon stole tens of millions of that money for himself and Trump pardoned him.

No amount of crime is enough for you to abandon the Cons….despite all your claims to the contrary.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

You still seem very confused. I’m pissing on you con-y reds and waiving, not pissing into a red wave. WHAT!? (Funny you named your movement after deadly poisoned ocean conditions…red tides are horrific destructive deadly things, not something to aspire to. I’m shocked at the truth in advertising from your ilk.)

Red WAVE this time, eh? Just like the last red tsunami but smaller, right? ROTFLMFAHS!! You might consider stoping making predictions at some point….then again you’re always happiest when being 100% wrong.

MAGAmericans aren’t buying what Democrats are selling….truth, fact, verified statistics, actual plans on how to tackle issues….because they hate truth, fact, or plans because you just have none and it makes you jealous to hear. They aren’t Americans, they are anti American, anti democracy, worshipers of Putin Xi and lil Kim but absolutely not democratic leaders. Look at any Republican’s platform, it’s nothing but “I want to lower crime and fix the economy”, never HOW they plan to do so, just whining that they don’t like the only plan put forward, even when it’s the same plan they put forward before they balk and obstruct because now it’s Biden who might get credit if it helps. They certainly don’t want to look at WHEN violent crime/murder rates shot up, because Biden wasn’t president in 2020 when it happened. Same for the economy….don’t remember 2020, just think about how bad it is compared to 2015….Biden’s fault! Derp!

Without fraud, intimidation, and criminal hyper-partisan election workers Cons have no chance….but fraud, intimidation, interference, and misinformation are all you’ve got. No Con elected is elected “clean”, so they are all illegitimate.

That said, never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. At least 1/3 of the country are absolute braying morons that believe anything Tangerini Mousolini says, the question is how many rational people will go along with you for weakly promised future personal gains over country.

A reminder how Cons treat vets… https://videosift.com/video/Jon-Stewart-Reminds-You-That-The-Right-Abandons-Veterans

bobknight33 said:

You pissing into the RED wave and it does not matter.

Americans are not buying what Democrats are selling and will be reflected in todays vote.

Pelosi gets under Trump's skin in the most brutal way

newtboy says...

Clinton did.
Her big brass balls swinging hard. Stood up to the whining accusatory bitches repeatedly. So much more of a “man” than the TDE coward. Of course, she had the unfair advantage of not being guilty.
They couldn’t pin a thing on her in 10 partisan kangaroo hearings, she showed up every time, because she’s no sniveling cowardly criminal like castrated baby eunuch Trump.

Only Americans and Allies to America care. Only proponents of democracy care. To your ilk, that’s no one because you are anti American and anti Democracy and you claim non cultists aren’t real people.
Trump denied the certified election results, his plan from the start because he knew he wouldn’t beat Biden. Republicans are doing the same this cycle before voting started for the same reason, you can’t win fair elections.
Trump himself personally invited armed terrorist groups to his rally on Jan 6 that was “going to be wild”, it sure was. His administration coordinated with the terrorist militias in the planning stage, and the militias say they acted on direct White House orders, and they have the texts to prove it.
Trump invited the armed militants into his crowd that he riled up and sent to the capitol to “stop the (fake) steal” by force, not legal methods.
Trump incited a riot/coup.

Your ridiculous denial is only more proof it’s true, you are so consistently dishonest and oppositional to reality that it’s always a safe bet to just assume reality is 100% diametrically opposed to whatever nonsense you spout daily. I could spend a week just opposing every word you say without a stitch of research without a hint of worry I might be wrong even once, just take Bob’s position, reverse it, and you’ll have reality every time. 🤦‍♂️

bobknight33 said:

Who would show up to an improper 1 sided kangaroo hearing?

No one cares about this BS. Trump did nothing wrong . didn't incite any riot.

Pelosi gets under Trump's skin in the most brutal way

newtboy says...

No, sorry, you’re thinking of Trump. More projection.
Turned his back on the attack he fomented, and Americans died defending democracy from MAGA.
Clinton did her job well with the information at hand. She didn’t turn her back like Trump undeniably did, she simply didn’t foresee the future when terrorists would pick one embassy to attack instead of one of the other 255 embassies and consulates. Since she testified for days without once pleading the fifth and no one hid what happened at any of the 10 purely partisan illegitimate hearings about it, unlike every person in cowardly Trump’s circle, we know without a doubt she did not turn her back, nor was she in any way responsible for the 4 Americans who died. You might want to educate yourself.
Republicans admitted plainly and publicly that the only purpose was to defeat her politically, so they consider the never ending hyper partisan extremely expensive hearings that 100% exonerated her a success. I believe the costs ran well over $200 million tax payer dollars for their political commercials couched as “hearings”.

Trump turns his back on constitutionality, civility, rationality, transparency, and reality….he hides everything that happened in the whitehouse, instructs public servants to refuse subpoenas, don’t testify, hide steal and destroy evidence, and don’t in any way cooperate in investigating the viscous violent terroristic attack against America and democracy he personally led to seize power. He said for decades only criminals plead the fifth, you agreed….every person from his administration subpoenaed has pleaded the fifth as has he….you don’t see the connection.

Also, let’s not forget the extra 1 million Americans that his own CDC said died needlessly because Trump turned his back on the pandemic. He’s infinitely more responsibility for 250000 times more deaths after dismantling Obama’s pandemic response team and ignoring Covid, and his plan was to double that number of dead Americans by opposing any public health measures and never locking down.
Remember-
“I know all grandparents agree with me. Grandma and grandpa will be happy to die to get America back to work in weeks instead of months…they WANT to die for America. Get back out there and let the elderly take care of themselves.”
🤦‍♂️
Party of millions of deaths, more pedophilic debauchery in the extreme daily, and the continuing attempted destruction of democracy in America by force…that’s you, friendo. Derp.

Such idiotic rewriting of history, bob. There were 10 illegitimate partisan hearings that she cooperated with over something that, had every accusation been true, still wasn’t criminal. For Jan 6, a deadly coup at Trump’s public direction on American soil that killed MORE Americans and was a DIRECT ATTACK AGAINST AMERICAN SOIL BY TERRORISTS, you say “nothing burger”, proving how unserious, irrational, and a full fledged cultist you are.

Good thing they shot that Traitorous cunt Ashley Babbitt, Bob says you shouldn’t have fucked with police, sweetheart.

bobknight33 said:

That was a ligit hearing because she turned her back on Americans and they died.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

You sure are. Look at the idiotic nonsense you believe.

This information is directly from the DOJ, not your bogey man THE MEDIA.

Yeah…I’ve seen Fox crying about Biden saying you’re fascists, moaning that he’s dividing us….but how quickly you forget your own slogan….”FUCK YOUR FEELINGS SNOWFLAKES!” If MAGA tears are flowing, we are on the right path. 22+ years of divisive politics from the right calling Democrats everything in the book including pedophile vampires, but calling fascism fascism is going too far. Eat a bag of baby dicks.

Those committing espionage against the United States are the real enemies of the American people, the same people who tried to overthrow the Democratic government.

Several have ended in nothing because the DOJ and AG were acting as Trump’s personal lawyers defending him from government charges instead of how it’s supposed to work where they levie the charges, these are court findings not opinion. Barr was a cover up guy, not the US AG. This is different because he no longer controls the federal prosecutors…and because of the undeniable nature of the multiple serious crimes. Just having the files is a felony he committed hundreds of times, keeping them unsafe is also a felony, lying about having them another felony…he did all 3 hundreds of times over.

Sorry, the DOJ releases are’t spin, they are facts…and facts are he illegally stole dozens/hundreds of top secret documents and kept them unsecured and lied about it repeatedly.

You’re the one squirming in a puddle, buddy.

Yeah, just wait until every scintilla of evidence has been proven in court, like you always do, right? 🤦‍♂️ remember Clinton? You couldn’t keep from pooping your diaper over her for years….over .01% the crimes already proven here…so little it wasn’t criminal, just negligent. This is criminal, intentional, intentionally hidden and lied about under penalty of perjury, and likely shared with hostile foreign powers already with potentially deadly consequences….so suddenly to your ilk national security at the highest level is partisan, only cared about by liberals and only then to hurt Marmalade Mussolini.

So far everything I’ve reported about this treason by the disgraced ex president has turned out to be correct, while every nonsense excuse you give is just that, nonsense.

Lol…EVERY election fraud scheme, and there were many, was a Republican scheme perpetrated by Republicans to get more votes for Trump. EVERY SINGLE ONE little boy. Election fraud was done by Trump and the Trumpists over and over and over and over…..voting multiple times, all Trumpists…trying to invalidate millions of valid votes, Trump… The election fraud fraud was also PURE Trump….idiot. That’s the big fraud among multiple small frauds….then the coup, Trump. Such insane delusion…only a true moron could be so gullible. YOU CANNOT POINT TO ONE ACTUAL DEMOCRATIC ELECTION FRAUD CASE only nonsense lies Fox fed you, I’ve shown you dozens of actual, prosecuted Republican frauds. (Being told by election officials you qualify to vote when you don’t, then registering to vote does not count btw)

bobknight33 said:

Gullible.
Media is meant to divide people, hype stories just for $. They are the real enemy of the American people.

So far every Anti Trump event has ended in a nothing burger. Should this be any different?

Finally we don't know the truth -- Just spin from all sides -
Quit wetting you panties until something real happens.

Go weed your garden and enjoy the beautiful day.

FYI Election fraud was done by the Democrat party not Trump

Why it's hard to be Republican w/a mind and heart

newtboy says...

Derp. Of course not. As I said, that’s classified level information, just the topics of the documents he stole are classified….fuckwit. That’s the sensitivity level of what he STOLE on his way out, then lied about still having.
Also Trump’s lawyers are fighting (poorly) to keep even the topics hidden from even the FBI and DOJ. They’ll go to the Supreme Court to keep them from becoming public. Why, if there’s nothing there, are they going to such lengths to hide the evidence?

Can you name one sensitive document Clinton had? I seriously doubt it after hundreds of millions and a dozen or more investigations, and those were lowest level classification documents not even labeled classified.

What was found was over 700 pages of classified documents, including at least 11 separate top secret classified sets of documents, at least 3 the highest top secret level not allowed out of secure facilities and that cannot be declassified by the president, usually meaning nuclear secrets but possible non nuclear but just as sensitive highest level state secrets.
You don’t need to know EXACTLY what the secrets are to know it’s criminal to have them, and to keep them unsecured, and to lie to the FBI about having them. You only demand that information because you know it won’t be produced….it’s an artificial bar you’re floating in the sky and saying “you haven’t reached that bar yet”….the fifth or sixth bar this scandal. It will be great if Biden decides the public knowing outweighs the secrecy and declassifies that information….won’t it?

I would point out, the documents being classified is not a requirement of any of the 3 laws cited in the warrant…just that he took them, kept them, and hid/lied about having them. There’s no doubt on all 3.

I’ve never claimed to KNOW they were nuclear secrets, others claimed that, I said they were likely nuclear secrets or might be other secrets of the same import and classification.
“ Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought in a search of former president Donald Trump’s Florida residence on Monday, according to people familiar with the investigation.”. To be honest, I haven’t read the redacted warrant to see if that’s what they were specifically looking for, but word is they found what they were looking for.

You never agree when I’m undeniably right, you just ghost.
You never admit you were wrong. Not once in the near dozen years we’ve been “talking”. I bet elsewhere you still claim Jan 6 was ANTIFA and BLM but not a single Trumpist, despite reality being the exact opposite. I bet elsewhere you still claim 2020 was a stolen election (only the presidential race though, the rest of all the ballots are valid).
You can find dozens of times I’ve admitted I was incorrect, I usually thank the person who set me straight, but I don’t recall you ever correctly correcting me so likely not directly to you.
I’ve agreed with you on some points, but never your overall take. It’s always nuts.
You agree individual cops are bad, then say it’s always an outlier, one bad apple, then throw tantrums accusing me of saying things I had not said like we should have no police at all.
You rarely agree about evil criminal Republicans, sometimes you say they shouldn’t hold office but what about “x”, but soon forget and support them, or Trump does and you say nothing but just grin….or you just say crooks are better than lefties. Don’t you still support Gaetz despite the underage human trafficking, Bohbert despite supporting her husband exposing himself to two 15 year old girls in her presence, Judge Roy despite years of trolling for 13 year old girls at the mall, even Trump despite being best friends with Epstein for years and years after he admitted serial child molesting, partying in private with him and YOUNG girls and joking about sex with his daughter and other children (something actual child abusers do).

“My side” is often wrong (it’s not my side btw, I’m a Democrat based on sanity). Assault weapon bans for instance, are dumb. Either eliminate all clip fed semi auto without a licensed necessity or none. Cosmetics are just that. Your turn.

Again with the Magnificent Spaghetti Monster, may you be touched with his noodly appendage. You like to degrade what you think are my sources, but you have no clue what they are. I’ll just say CNN is never on my TV, and I really don’t know what MSM is, I thought you meant MSNBC, which I also don’t watch! 😂

Only facts matter to me, that’s why I’m willing to cite sources unlike you who is embarrassed of where your nonsense came from. I read both sides of an issue, and the original data the conclusions come from and decide for myself….usually agreeing with the left but not always, but never with the right because they are insane and delusional, believing only their alternate facts (what were called lies before Trump). Facts have never mattered to you, only partisan blame games.

Name a disastrous government response or responsibility you blame on Republicans. I’ll start, I’ll blame our current friendly status with Saudi Arabia on Biden, they should be on the terrorist state list, and it’s his call now. Your turn.
*crickets*

Edit: PS- Courts ruled last week that Barr outright lied about the contents of the Mueller report and about the idea that without a conviction on the underlying crime there could be no obstruction, ruled that there are 10 instances of legal obstruction listed in the report, and that Barr bold faced lied about it, hid it from the public, and did this intentionally to obstruct Justice, to protect Trump from valid charges that might have removed him from office during his impeachment….or as I’m sure you’ll say….”nothing burger” (because you have no problem with criminality if it’s from the right. The chances any evidence would make you say Trump is unfit are zero.)

bobknight33 said:

Nice reads.

The take away is from on of the articles you linked..

https://www.newsweek.com/nuclear-secrets-already-fell-wrong-handstrumps-opinion-1733711

"We still do not, of course, know exactly what the FBI found"

You amaze me with you utter gullible nature.

You stupid fuck stick.
Tell me EXACTLY what was FOUND?

Enlighten me with FACTS!

Everyone is speculating and no one has FACTS. NO ONE! ( except you)

I only call out fools like you.
When you are right I agree.
I can't remember you ever agreeing with me.
When you post a bad cop vid I agree
When you post a bad Republican , I agree
You however can never accept that you side can be so wrong at times. Facts do not matter to you, only MSM opinions do. Those are not facts.

Fox Talks About FBI Raid Looking For Classified Documents

newtboy says...

Good comment. Points out how cultists don’t let facts get in the way of their accusations no matter what, no matter how many partisan and bipartisan committees and government agencies clear her, no matter how many hundreds of millions are wasted repeatedly investigating the same things over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over….finding nothing at all, nada, zip, zilch, nothing burgers royal with cheese.

What “things” did “Dems” do? They didn’t steal classified documents…although Republicans accused them of it and held numerous hearings which Dems participated and testified in…and were cleared. They didn’t expose top secret information, although republicans accused them of it and held multiple hearings that Dems participated and testified in…and were cleared. They didn’t refuse to turn over those stolen, unsecured state secrets for 6 months (because they never stole any).

You’re so delusional you still chant “lock her up” but don’t have a clue for what anymore, and chant “nothing burger” when Trump admits to the exact crimes you accused Clinton of but then exonerated her of because the accusations were false.

Not watching one second of that idiot blowhard Gutfeld….I’m dumber for having read his name, he’s such an information vacuum that just mentioning him makes a person less informed. No surprise he’s a trusted source for you…like Beck and Jones…all admitted liars and frauds that lie for your money…and you eat it up like poo pie….just begging for more turd tarts.

bobknight33 said:

Good Vid -- points out how Dems do things and nothing happens to them.

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newtboy says...

Fraudster and wannabe Hitler Trump pleaded the fifth about his businesses being both over and under valued depending on which helps him at the time, because he’s guilty.
Remember, Trump says “only criminals invoke the fifth. The mafia invokes the fifth. The mob takes the fifth. If you’re innocent why are you taking the fifth? Taking the fifth, I think it’s disgraceful. It’s despicable people who invoke the fifth.” In this case, I agree.
Why, then, has he fought so hard to avoid being deposed court, one wonders.

So, by his own definition, Trump just pleaded guilty to bank fraud on an unheard of scale.
Pleading the fifth in a civil case can be viewed as legally binding admission of legal liability.

The “L”s just keep coming. How will Trump run if he’s in court on dozens of civil and criminal cases or prison?

Remember how you claimed Clinton was invalidated as a candidate because she was under (a purely partisan, umpteenth, disingenuous) investigation? Now you say “nothing burger” that Trump is under dozens of actual indictments, many criminal, and is considering running to attempt to shield himself from legal consequences of serious crimes?! Are you truly so blind you don’t see your constant blatant hypocrisy? Probably.

Sen. Whitehouse Questions FBI on Kavanaugh Background

newtboy says...

Surprise? Maybe not completely.
It is surprising to hear it confirmed by the director under oath, I expected far more obfuscation ….and surprising the total 100% abdication of the investigation(s) to the whitehouse as a policy. Also surprising he admits/claims that it’s secretly been like that for decades (not that he would actually know, he is a Trump appointee so only knows how he operated under Trump and Biden).

There are certainly many who will be shocked to hear this….less jaded people who still believed in non partisan institutions in our government. They will be flabbergasted to know the extent that our investigative departments have become pure propaganda departments.

cloudballoon said:

But is this a surprise AT ALL? America has been treating politics and democracy as a joke a lifetime already. It has not (or could not) fought for real freedom & democracy t home or abroad not a long while, but instead market itself as the pinnacle of freedom & democracy, but it's far from the truth. It's ALL marketing.

An impartial court, separation of church and state, all illusions. But so be it. It's too far gone. Expand the SCOTUS to bring some balance, it's the only moral thing to do.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Lol. I’M narrow minded?!? ROTFLMFAHS!!!

Who told you that?! They lied.

Wiki-Five House Committees (Armed Services, Foreign Affairs, Intelligence, Judiciary, and Oversight and Government Reform) initiated their own inquiries soon after the attack. The Republicans on these five House Committees delivered an interim report to the Members of the House Republican Conference on April 23, 2013. The interim report, which contains the conclusions of the Republican majority staff, signed only by the five Republican chairmen of those committees and stated "This staff report has not been officially adopted by the Committee on Armed Services, the Committee on Foreign Affairs, the Committee on the Judiciary, the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, or the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and therefore may not necessarily reflect the views of their Members," was critical of the Obama Administration's actions before, during, and after the attack. Among dozens of findings, the report states that:

"Senior State Department officials knew that the threat environment in Benghazi was high and that the Benghazi compound was vulnerable and unable to withstand an attack, yet the department continued to systematically withdraw security personnel"
The "[Obama] Administration willfully perpetuated a deliberately misleading and incomplete narrative that the attacks evolved from a political demonstration caused by a YouTube video."
"... after a White House Deputies Meeting on Saturday, September 15, 2012, the Administration altered the talking points to remove references to the likely participation of Islamic extremists in the attacks. The Administration also removed references to the threat of extremists linked to al-Qa'ida in Benghazi and eastern Libya ..."
"The Administration deflected responsibility by blaming the IC [intelligence community] for the information it communicated to the public in both the talking points and the subsequent narrative it perpetuated."
Democrats on the five committees criticized the report, which they said had been written without Democratic input, as a "partisan Republican" work that was "unnecessarily politicizing our national security".

Also “ Democrats on the committee certainly say this was political and politically constructed. They say there were many witnesses whose testimony wasn't released because it supported the administration and particularly supported Hillary Clinton.”

There were 8 Benghazi investigations, 7 of which were only done as political attacks on Clinton to hurt her presidential run, admitted by McCarthy and others on tape. That’s why, even though their Republican led investigations found no wrongdoing he called it a win against Clinton because the accusations hurt her politically.

You get what you call one point of view because one side, the anti democracy pro-sedition side, refuses to testify, ignores subpoenas, and hides and destroys evidence….the same “side” that boycotted the investigations and refused to authorize a non partisan outside investigation, then whined they weren’t being allowed to participate…the treason side….your side.
They have absolutely been able to present another side…under oath. Trump has an open invitation, as do all his co-conspirators that ignored subpoenas. They refuse, or are incapable.
There have been plenty of Trump officials who did give their point of view, and every one has said Trump was clearly attempting a coup, knew he lost the election early, knew his plots were absolutely illegal, and many quit on Jan 6 when it became obvious he was willing to violently attack America and his own VP intentionally to retain power by any means.
You know this, you just hope someone else is as dumb as you act and can be fooled into believing your nonsense that this is a partisan politically motivated hatchet job, not an investigation into the worst attack against America on the mainland since the Southern Insurrection (otherwise known as the civil war).

bobknight33 said:

You so narrow minded. It is truly sad.


Those other investigations had the other side to counter.

There is not 1 counter point of view - It is not allowed on this Bull Shit Jan 6 smear job.



The Jan 6 just a want to paint a false one sided narrative.

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newtboy says...

So, explain why you spent dozens of not hundreds of hours watching “hearings”which were one sided, no counter argument, and no evidence, purely partisan, purely political smears surrounding Clinton’s emails and Benghazi ?….and where’s the outrage over the secret service doing what she was ACCUSED of but it was proven repeatedly she never did, intentionally erasing thousands of government owned emails concerning evidence surrounding an attack against Americans that the president intentionally orchestrated?

*crickets*

Such a silly, infantile, intentionally blind, hypocritical, totally transparent person you are.

bobknight33 said:

Why watch the hearings. They are 1 sided, no counter argument --- That is not allowed. That alone indicates a BS hearing.


They are not after truth only what they wan to hear.

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newtboy says...

Lol. Wouldn’t you like to know, since it’s correct 99.96% of the time. Lol. It would certainly do you well to read the same news I do, but I don’t think you’re capable of rationally determining fact from fiction so wouldn’t solve your problem.

It’s way more funny to me that you don’t know where my info comes from, especially since I tell you (apparently they don’t teach you how to look at listed reference material at the college you say you went to…because I list them often). Where you listen to one OAN idiots take and just believe it, I usually read 3-5 articles with different viewpoints and come to my own conclusions based on how well each relates to known facts. When I post the CNN version of a story for you, it’s because they keep it dumbed down enough for even you to understand, not because they’re the only source. (Also because I know it will trigger you into acting the fool)
🤦‍♂️

Why? Because he’s a lying treasonous traitor that tried to overthrow the American government by force and become a dictator in America. WTF?! Did you really ask “why” there’s an investigation!?
Also because so many cultists like yourself want to pretend 1) it was horrific and all ANTIFA and BLM, 2) it was just a normal day at the capitol with normal tourists and 3) it never actually happened ….so he can try again in 24, and with enough hiding the evidence, voter suppression, roll purging, triple voting, voter ID, removal of mail in voting and drop boxes in democratic areas (like Houston with 665 sq miles, 2.3 million residents, and now ONE drop box), and a complicit partisan court willing to invalidate millions of Democrats’ votes, maybe he could steal a “win”. It’s important to 1) know and 2) remind voters what he did to foment a coup against their country, and how he tried to defraud the nation and the election with his election fraud fraud that he knew from day one was a pure lie.

Why this two sided hearing with MAGA underrepresented? Because republicans didn’t want a non political third party investigation and blocked it, and didn’t want to be part of the bipartisan investigation so boycotted it. The real question is why don’t republicans want to know and don’t want anyone else to know the truth about 1/6? I think that’s obvious, because they are complicit in the failed coup.

Suppression of truth?! You mean by the Trumpists who refuse to testify, refuse to turn over public documents, and threaten witnesses to “be loyal” and keep quiet? I think that’s obvious too, they suppress the truth because the truth is they turned on their country and government to try to install their cult leader as dictator for life.

Anything and everything, by which you mean actually investigating an attack against America that cost lives….how quickly you forget Benghazi that was actually a number of one sided “investigations” (fuckery) trying to prove the predetermined conclusion that Clinton somehow was responsible for a foreign attack on an embassy…tens of millions wasted just trying to keep her from running in 16 (and I wish the totally 100% dishonest smear campaign was successful, because we would never have had Trump if he ran against Sanders). All that and still nothing on Clinton. Didn’t you promise the charges were coming any day….way back in 17 or 18?

This madman was a perfectly normal maggot. Gun crazed, immigrant hating, racist it appears, a violent nut job wrapped in a MAGA flag and Pepe shirt. That’s the MAGA base, not an outlier. I know you’ll hide from that fact and pretend he’s just a crazy nut job, but he’s perfectly normal for a Trumpist, you are all mad men, you all want to murder liberals, he just had the balls (and insanity) to go through with what most of you fantasize about daily.

bobknight33 said:

Where on earth do you get you fake new?

Local rag at the checkout?

More dump on Trump...



The real question is why.


Why and this fuckery? 1 sided hearing , suppression on truth?


Anything and everything just to keep him from running in 2024.





""""""Highland Park terrorist is a HUGE MAGA idiot and Q-tard along with his parents…another domestic terrorist murdering in the name of MAGA. Targeting a Jewish neighborhood.""""""

Yeat to hear anything about this mad man/



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