Look I never cared a rats ass about this until there was a link from a post from this site to download and see for myself. I have not said that the document is a fake. All I am saying is that it is heavily altered.

If OBAMA wanted to post a genuine scanned document then it would not have any alterations on it. So why all teh alterations? Like I said before go download ti for yourself, get a 30 day demo copy of illustrator and see for your self.



>> ^IronDwarf:

>> ^bobknight33:
Words words words words


What would satisfy you? You obviously weren't happy with the short form, and now that the long form has been released, you aren't happy with that. What would it take to convince you? Or are you one of those people who are just so happy to think that they have the secret information that no one else does? Don't you think that if there were a minute chance that Obama were not from this country that the Republicans would take every chance they could to find that out? Hell, they went after Clinton for lying about getting his dick sucked. Don't you think they would be all over this if they could overturn an entire election in their favor?

>> ^bobknight33:

Words words words words



What would satisfy you? You obviously weren't happy with the short form, and now that the long form has been released, you aren't happy with that. What would it take to convince you? Or are you one of those people who are just so happy to think that they have the secret information that no one else does? Don't you think that if there were a minute chance that Obama were not from this country that the Republicans would take every chance they could to find that out? Hell, they went after Clinton for lying about getting his dick sucked. Don't you think they would be all over this if they could overturn an entire election in their favor?

I recommended this site to you? I don't remember that, to be honest. But no it doesn't embarrass me. I'm not defined by these people I've never met. I would like to hear you actually call into one of these shows. That would be hilarious. You should call into this one: http://www.freetalklive.com/

The problem with the question you posed me, which is the same as the one you posed them, is that you have to manufacture an extreme situation where a crazy Bill Gates does something horrible and everyone just stands by with their thumbs up their asses. Statism, though, is the initiation of force and theft without the extreme and crazy scenarios. I'd personally like to take my chances living in a world with the crazy Bill Gates than the current fiscally-unsustainable system.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Pussies, sychophants and intellectual cowards. Doesn't it embarrass you a bit to see how ignorant and closed minded these people acted towards me, after recommending this site to me? You are so much better and smarter than this collective of morons.


In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Well, your questions tend to be very extreme and specific. The go to argument for statists always seem to be centered around a crazy Bill Gates wreaking havoc.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Now this looks good! Why is Duncan Jones the only director willing to take a chance on good non-superhero SF? He's Kubrick's heir.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Attention American Left, you're 30% of the population, TOPS. These actors can choose to be wards of the State, I'll take my chances with dangerous freedom.


Liberals GIVE freedoms.

Rightists TAKE freedoms.

That's how it's always been. That's how it will always be.

Vote Freedom -- Vote Liberal.

Attention American Left, you're 30% of the population, TOPS. These actors can choose to be wards of the State, I'll take my chances with dangerous freedom.

Thumbnail you can use for this video, if you like.

>> ^rottenseed:

>> ^BoneyD:
Great stuff. I admire how Zach wears a false beard 90% of the time so that on the odd occasion he can play his own twin brother. Dedication to character like that is great!
BTW, if you're interested, Penn was interviewed by Democracy Now! a couple of months ago in Haiti:
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/13/sean_penn_on_haiti_six_months
He was pretty serious over there, great to see him playing along for this interview

What do you mean his beard is "false"? It's not a real beard???


Of course it's real. I guess sometimes he just cuts it for some other parts or something, and takes the chance to play his twin brother.

Or every once in a while he gets tired of having a full beard and shaves it.

I think the U.S. government (not just Obama, but Congress as well) has locked us into this war for two major reasons:

1. If we reduce troop levels in Afghanistan and then another Al-Qaeda attack occurs on U.S. soil, we will blame the administration for it, saying that they were "weak" against terror. However, if another Al-Qaeda attack takes place without troop reductions, then the administration will use that to justify increased troop levels in Afghanistan anyway. And if no Al-Qaeda attack takes place, they will attribute that to our increased troop levels in Afghanistan. So basically, no one has the balls to take the chance to reduce troop levels because of these reasons.

2. Also, we now know that Afghanistan is rich in mineral deposits. Just like in Iraq, our leadership is willing to shed blood for oil, gas, and mineral riches. I don't see how anyone can deny that this is one of our reasons for war there, though no one in power will ever admit to it.

We are a declining empire, with military bases scattered all across the globe, perpetually at war somewhere in the world, fighting for riches that go to corporations, while our country sinks further and further into debt.

But we've got books!

>> ^Deano:

Hang on here. Let's be fair. I don't know who invented touchscreens or pinch to zoom or whatever and I don't much care.
But it's Apple who have come along and made mobile devices that are nice to use - very nice. No one else was rushing to take a chance on making an iphone. If it wasn't for them I reckon we would still be stuck with devices like my Nokia 6680, which is admittedly rubbish and with each passing day becomes more annoying to use. I've stuck it out for ages but gradually, very gradually, I can hear the call of an HTC Desire.
Before this I experimented with a Palm Tungsten PDA - overall it wasn't great. You had to use the stylus and learn that grafiti thing. And there was no itunes equivalent, no desire to connect with the customer and installing programs was tedious and would be buggy when you did. It didn't make me productive and it wasn't much fun either.

The iPhone is no doubt a nice phone, but it's not exactly like Apple invented the wheel here. In any case, I thought this thread was more about the iPad and whether any of us would buy it. I have to confess that I don't like flash, but even I have to admit that it's become part of the web experience. Somehow I feel the iPad would be great for things like playing Hapland on your couch, but obviously Jobbo takes it personally when it comes to Adobes format and won't allow it.

With the far superior Asus tablet coming out next year there's absolutely no reason for me to buy the iPad. Besides, I'm trying to get away from buying products of corporations that are into torture and restriction of free speech.

Hang on here. Let's be fair. I don't know who invented touchscreens or pinch to zoom or whatever and I don't much care.
But it's Apple who have come along and made mobile devices that are nice to use - very nice. No one else was rushing to take a chance on making an iphone. If it wasn't for them I reckon we would still be stuck with devices like my Nokia 6680, which is admittedly rubbish and with each passing day becomes more annoying to use. I've stuck it out for ages but gradually, very gradually, I can hear the call of an HTC Desire.

Before this I experimented with a Palm Tungsten PDA - overall it wasn't great. You had to use the stylus and learn that grafiti thing. And there was no itunes equivalent, no desire to connect with the customer and installing programs was tedious and would be buggy when you did. It didn't make me productive and it wasn't much fun either.

Isn't the digital landscape that more fertile for everyone now thanks to Apple?

@Farhad2000 - just to be clear there's no way they're forcing you to buy their products. I'm not using any - the limitations just rub me the wrong way.

>> ^campionidelmondo:

>> ^dag:
I would also posit that the same thing has happened, albeit in a smaller way, with the iPhone and iPad. finger optimised UI, Flick to scroll, bounce back scrolling, pinch to zoom and more are innovations out of Apple's skunkworks. These innovations exist on Android and Pre phones - but to assume that this would have happened without Apple is naive.

Nope sorry, Apple did not "invent" all of these things. I know about flicking and pinch to zoom being around before the iPhone, there's even a video of a desk-sized tabled demo employing those tecniques around here, but I can't find it right now.
Good thing Apple did not invent the mouse cursor, or else we all would have to use some weird thingy like a crosshair or sth because you can bet your ass they would've patented it.

The peeps that hate capitalism aren't smarter than the rest of the peeps. I'd rather take my chances with McDonald's, Pfizer, Ford, et al than a kenyan marxist thug and his merry band of tax cheats. Central economic planning by thugverment has been tried time and again. It don't work.

you mean, it's like facebook?
>> ^blankfist:

>> ^rottenseed:
Yea I agree with dag. Take some chances socially.

Yes, you will learn pretty early on everything is run here like a popularity contest, so the more people you make friends with the better you will do.

>> ^rottenseed:

Yea I agree with dag. Take some chances socially.


Yes, you will learn pretty early on everything is run here like a popularity contest, so the more people you make friends with the better you will do.

Yea I agree with dag. Take some chances socially. It's not impossible to be known for only your videos, but it is a hell of a lot harder. And you don't have to be a loud "mouth" like myself or blankfist. You can keep a quiet cool about you. Just keep letting us know you're there, we enjoy your company!