7 million views = about $7000 in youtube ad revenue. Sound investment I'd say!

Also that is actually a pretty old handset, probably only worth £50-100ish now at most.


Now if we're talking about the Congolese workers who mined the ore and the Chinese sweatshop staff that assembled it that's another matter, but then that goes for anyone who owns or has owned a "smartphone". How one chooses to use it irrelevant, smashing it with a hammer is no different to most of the mindless procrastination they get used for anyway.

It's a highly disposable industry and this beats just languishing in a drawer somewhere or being dropped down the toilet etc.

Does Disney still have a sweatshop of drug-addled artists drawing stills in some smoky room somewhere?

ahh yes, the free market will solve all. The market that has never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever been free and even the founder of capitalism argues that it needs to be regulated.

12 year olds would still be working in sweatshops were it not for regulation. Slavery would still be legal were it not for that pesky meddling gov't

I am startled that so much hand labor goes into producing each baseball. I always thought they were slightly expensive to buy, but now I think they should cost more.

Also, I've probably watched 40 episodes of How It's Made, and it's almost always Canadian factories. I've never seen what might be called a "sweatshop". Maybe they're branching out.

>> ^My_design:

Wow, the "free thinkers" lash out.
Not a corporate shill, but work in a corporate environment. Not saying that corporate actions are always right, but you guys only ever want to tear down, and never propose how to fix it. Your own hatred blinds you to reality.
So F_ck Walmart, F_ck Target, F_ck Coke and Pepsi and all the other companies that make "ridiculous" profits at the expense of consumers and employees. Stop buying their crap, form a commune and move to the hills. Consumerism and free market are screwing up the country/planet right? So let's seize corporate profits, block them at every angle and get us back to the good old days, you know before Carnegie, Ford, JP Morgan, and Rockefeller. Hell before Edison while we're at it. Oh wait there has always been corporations doing business in the US. Oh well, enjoy your new life with the Amish.
No options for jobs?
Here's a 160 pages of options just for the 50 miles around Chicago:
http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobResults.aspx?lr=cbcb_ct&siteid=cb_ctnpqsb&use=all&s_rawword
s=Chicago&s_freeloc=Il&s_jobtypes=ALL&uJobsF
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There are always options. We tend to forget that just 50 years ago people were subsistence farming, living with 3 generations in a household, working 2 jobs, and no health insurance. Hell in some places that is still going on. But now we complain and strike because the manager bullies us and causes unnecessary stress (0:22) If that is really the case, then document it. It is called contributing to a hostile work environment and is covered under the sexual harassment laws in the US.
"Because I'm tired of working at a company where workers get cheated and cheaters get rewarded" What? Umm that would be a class action lawsuit like the ones that hit Walmart in the past.


For me it's much simpler. Requires very little thinking through, this hatred for all that Walmmart represents. The worst form of mega-corporate usurping of the individual, of regional infrastructure, local architecture....Walmart has killed the souls of so many small towns and has done it through a systematic cheapening of goods and services. The hydra is self-perpetuating with your help....One of her strongest tentacles is this inbred bitch's legal department working tirelessly to maintain the machine's tactics and contempt for the people who have bought their line and their sub-standard goods from a country that has gone from a fundamentally repressive government with the largest population of any country to one, massive sweatshop PLANETOID of human wage-slaves.

People have been groomed for accepting quantity over quality, convenience over consciousness.
Apologies for the harsh words, glad to hear you have nothing to do with this particular beast-I fucked Coke, Pepsi, Target, etc. years ago...Don't frequent any chain restaurants or purchase new cars either. Shop at thrift stores for clothing and order consumer goods online through "ma and pa" internet businesses.
From America, in America, but not OF America.

All systems are in decay upon conception and the rate of decay accelerates upon implementation there, Trancecoach...

Walmart is to unions as grouper is to red tide. Their current "fuck our employees as we fuck the planet" model would flash incinerate the moment their employees had a say in a future with Walmart other than the one they have: "Stay poor, stay ill, do your job, insect, then die."

I'd love to see Walmart burn this year. ALL power to their employees, sweatshop-showcase lackeys all!!


You know ho to save money at Walmart? Buy only goods from their shelves that are manufactured in the United States. You won't need a shopping cart.

>> ^mxxcon:

>> ^entr0py:
>> ^deathcow:
I am venturing a guess that they only show the one persons face because he is the only white person involved and they are not looking for a stigma of "foreign labor".

Italy is like 92% white, I kind of doubt he's the only white guy working there. I wouldn't be surprised if this genuinely is a proper workshop with proper wages, and not a sweatshop. But I don't blame you for being skeptical. Apple has proven that just because a product carries a crazy luxury price, it doesn't mean it isn't made by wage slaves.
Louis Vuitton is a French brand/company. What does Italy have to do with this?


It's a French company but this was filmed at a workshop in Italy. So, deathcow is totally right, they use foreign labor.

http://www.martincmusicblog.com/home/2012/3/5/louis-vuittons-italian-bespoke-workshop-fiesso-dartico.html

>> ^entr0py:

>> ^deathcow:
I am venturing a guess that they only show the one persons face because he is the only white person involved and they are not looking for a stigma of "foreign labor".

Italy is like 92% white, I kind of doubt he's the only white guy working there. I wouldn't be surprised if this genuinely is a proper workshop with proper wages, and not a sweatshop. But I don't blame you for being skeptical. Apple has proven that just because a product carries a crazy luxury price, it doesn't mean it isn't made by wage slaves.
Louis Vuitton is a French brand/company. What does Italy have to do with this?

>> ^deathcow:

I am venturing a guess that they only show the one persons face because he is the only white person involved and they are not looking for a stigma of "foreign labor".


Italy is like 92% white, I kind of doubt he's the only white guy working there. I wouldn't be surprised if this genuinely is a proper workshop with proper wages, and not a sweatshop. But I don't blame you for being skeptical. Apple has proven that just because a product carries a crazy luxury price, it doesn't mean it isn't made by wage slaves.

>> ^volumptuous:
That is the exact opposite to his claim of "knowing how to create jobs, my friends."


Clearly he knows how to create jobs in China.

In any case, I have to say I'm willing to believe people really do desperately want to work in that factory, or others like it. That's not a particularly uplifting thought, in fact I think it's maybe even worse than if the factory was holding the workers in by force. That people want to work in sweatshops is an indication of a society with deep, deep problems.

I'm not defending Romney, by the way. Treating workers badly because they can't afford to demand better is abuse just the same as treating them badly because they're slaves. I'm just not sure the claim about his credulity is backed up by the video.

So wait, they get their shit made in sweatshops, they sell their shit at 3x the cost of the market price for the hardware components AND they aren't paying their taxes? What are they doing with their profits? Building a secret underground evil base in an abandoned missile silo?

Oh nvm, they probably spend it all on marketing.

Okay, plug up your bleeding heart for like two seconds and try to pick on up the NUANCES of these next few statements.

If MLK was arrested in a PUBLIC park, for no other justification than loitering [i'm sure he was].. that's Institutionalized Discrimination and is wrong. Society should never revert to that way of being.

[This is your main concern and the issue you feel I'm avoiding, correct?]

However, since MLK was arrested in a PRIVATE establishment, for loitering and possible harassment.. It's right.

He was infringing upon the natural rights of narrow-minded racist to segregate themselves within their own little box of hate.

AGAIN, THIS IS INCONSEQUENTIAL BECAUSE OUR SOCIETY HAS EVOLVED BEYOND THE IDEA OF SEPARATE BUT EQUAL.

Meaning, we don't need a fuckin' law to tell us it's immoral.
E.G. "Good thing the 13th Amendment will never be repelled. Otherwise, all my black friends would have to be slaves again"

[Luckily for us, those Yankees made an amendment. Now we only have wage, sex, prison and sweatshop slavery to contend with! Go Liberal Democrats!!]

I feel i've been very honest about the implications of a Ron Paul presidency.
I agree that some groups will seek to reestablish institutionalized discrimination under the guise of property rights [which I never intentionally advocated for this entire discussion].

Again, not the point!

The entire point of Ron Paul becoming president is to reshape the political landscape!

You know, into one where our tiny individual voices actually make a significant difference.

I'll put this argument in the simplest terms I can:

p1 - @NetRunner wants to see political change thru the act of voting and unimpeded democracy/consensus.

p2 - A Ron Paul Presidency would enable political change thru the act of voting and unimpeded democracy/consensus.

C - @NetRunner should advocate for a Ron Paul Presidency.

Shit, late for work.
kthanksbai

Some of that may fit under a "detestable" umbrella...>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

What about:
working - workers and the work they do, labor struggles, working class heroes, job anecdotes, labor law and history, labor strikes and protests, sweatshops, ows, the 99% etc.
?

What about:

*working - workers and the work they do, labor struggles, working class heroes, job anecdotes, labor law and history, labor strikes and protests, sweatshops, ows, the 99% etc.

?