So what's with the thumbnail of this video being subliminal? (@ 2:34)

Interesting, but not that surprising as all cultures have developed and shared their discoveries with one another. Probably one of the only saving graces of our species.

Excellent. Is there some way we can force everyone here to watch this and obey? Maybe insert some subliminal messages in there. Because this kinda half-arsed follow the crowd commenting irritates the crap outta me

So the Mossad is on the dollar eh? Bull. I'm with MGR. Downvote.
I couldn't make out the subliminal flash in the middle though. Jewish candles, Bush,and who?

I can't stand conspiracy theorists Bad propaganda just to stir the pot.

Awesome! This is the kind of sock puppetry we need!

I especially like the single frame image of a dead body inserted in subliminal fashion.

This is subliminal sex education. Wear a rubber or little kids will spew out of your penis.

>> ^ChosenOne:
Sooo.. if the death star were to blow up a planet, from the planets view would the death star look like a big boobie?


It aims to lull the inhabitants into inaction through subliminal messages of comfort and happiness.

hey asynchronice,
thanks for your input on this, its always interesting to hear more background on something especially on a subject such as this. I also noticed that the roundtable dicussion at the end was fairly biased as well but I figured I would let the video stand for it self and see if anyone had any input on it. I didnt mean for this to be flamebait in any way either, I find religion of all kinds very interesting... even if I want no part of it As for other videos I'm not sure, I actually just stumbled upon this while searching for a different video completely unrelated to religion. I checked the youtube account that this came from and the person seems to be fairly biased against mormons but it might be worth browsing through his movies.
As for the golden bathtub...well I think I'm gonna leave that one alone
>> ^asynchronice:
Being raised Mormon and having since realized how retarded ALL of them are and now comfortably atheist, I think I can speak fairly about this:
It's called Kolob, and the only reason I know is because it's in one of the super-freaky hymns that was in the back of the hymn book:
"If you could hie to Kolob in the twinkling of an eye"
I would imagine 90% of Mormons have no idea what this is. It's mentioned only briefly in the Mormon scripture, and (like many Biblical passages), was only intended to be understood metaphorically. However I would fault the author (Mr. Smith) with coining a sci-fi sounding name which obscures the point. But beyond that, the video has some very interesting slightly subliminal techniques. The emphasis on multiple gods, the 'Mormon' Jesus; there is a very concerted effort to demarcate where the creators Christianity begins and Mormonism begins. The 'facts' presented here are all very obscure passages, painstakingly juxtapositioned together to create a very loose narrative that is just crazy enough to fit together, but not really make a lot of sense.
And this is clearly not a 'real' documentary as the interview session at the end is laughably biased.
This piece could be done to any Judeo-Christian faith (maybe Eastern as well, but that's out of my area), as it focuses on only the mystical and obscure facts and spends all of it's time elaborating on them. It would be like a documentary on Catholicism and spending all your time on Revelations. You couldn't deny it was true (or at least according to the Vatican), but you miss the point. Entertaining, maybe; educational, not so much.
This reminds me of an old friend of mine who went to a private Christian school, and one day in mandatory 'bible' class (lolz) they showed a video on Mormonism. Based on our conversation, I'm guessing this is what he saw. He laughed it off and said they had little videos on all the 'other' religions, that focus specifically on how to demean them, which most of them picked up on and ignored.
That said, I'd like to see those other videos too

Being raised Mormon and having since realized how retarded ALL of them are and now comfortably atheist, I think I can speak fairly about this:

It's called Kolob, and the only reason I know is because it's in one of the super-freaky hymns that was in the back of the hymn book:

"If you could hie to Kolob in the twinkling of an eye"

I would imagine 90% of Mormons have no idea what this is. It's mentioned only briefly in the Mormon scripture, and (like many Biblical passages), was only intended to be understood metaphorically. However I would fault the author (Mr. Smith) with coining a sci-fi sounding name which obscures the point. But beyond that, the video has some very interesting slightly subliminal techniques. The emphasis on multiple gods, the 'Mormon' Jesus; there is a very concerted effort to demarcate where the creators Christianity begins and Mormonism begins. The 'facts' presented here are all very obscure passages, painstakingly juxtapositioned together to create a very loose narrative that is just crazy enough to fit together, but not really make a lot of sense.


And this is clearly not a 'real' documentary as the interview session at the end is laughably biased.

This piece could be done to any Judeo-Christian faith (maybe Eastern as well, but that's out of my area), as it focuses on only the mystical and obscure facts and spends all of it's time elaborating on them. It would be like a documentary on Catholicism and spending all your time on Revelations. You couldn't deny it was true (or at least according to the Vatican), but you miss the point. Entertaining, maybe; educational, not so much.

This reminds me of an old friend of mine who went to a private Christian school, and one day in mandatory 'bible' class (lolz) they showed a video on Mormonism. Based on our conversation, I'm guessing this is what he saw. He laughed it off and said they had little videos on all the 'other' religions, that focus specifically on how to demean them, which most of them picked up on and ignored.

That said, I'd like to see those other videos too

Awww you're so damn sweet! I love you too hun. I've been missing you like crazy!
_{Vote for all my shizz! All of you! >.> SUBLIMINAL!!}

Okay on a serious note: I'm really happy things are working out, slowly as it may seem. More to happy to help in all the ways I can.

[James Nichols from Bowling for Columbine]
Them people, law enforcement, if you want to call them that
were here and they were shaking in their shoes. They were physically
shaking, scared to death. Because certain people, said I'm a radical
I'm a wild man, I got a gun under every arm, if you say anything
I'll shoot you. If the people find out how they've been
ripped off, and enslaved, they will revolt with the blood
running in the streets.

Yo, Ticket to ride, the white crime, highway
Bring all the guns, the funds will come my way
Whether we deliverin' high grade
To the people in the pit of the tri-state
Or dabble in the hood like fly weights
Lock and load in the range with rock the globe
Made any aim possible
Til the leadbelly lost control
In the hold of the paper that fold
At one time was related to gold
Made many men lose their soul
To the price of the dice that roll
How can a light so bright make a man so cold?
So another man's plans unfold
Can you really see the truth til it happens to you
Its so severe what the hopeless will do

Ain't no pickin' your position to beginning your life
Not every man want to stand by his kids and his wife
Too many lost kids in the night
Hand on heat, grippin' it tight
Any man want beef could get it right
Followed by enough flame to put a permanent end
To the learning of men
Class session, too many the blast the last lesson
Often taught like the wars that are often fought
As old as mankind
Now outta his damn mind
Stand on the gunpowder landmine
Ready to blow at any second
I'm checking for the signs of the end
Of all-time, I figure its on time, my last thoughts forming the rhyme

Got me running through the streets
That reek of the dead, its more food to the wealthy
My niggaz on welfare, nobody givin' up healthcare
Nothing but heat, how you gonna tell me it ain't hell here?
George Bush having a swell year
Swingin' the gat, ready to clap, anything on the map
You done seen what they bring to Iraq
Now bring it back to the source, land of the physical force
Land of the gun, land of the gun, land of the gun, land of the gun!

This is the place where the cops rush in the building
Paramilitary death squads murder your children
Empty shell of a man rippin' shots in the air
Soldiers dying out there, but nobody cares
Prepare for the future but make note of the past
Or be condemned to live it again and get blast
Class warfare kept outta the news
Replaced by a corporation's political views
Cause this is where the guns are manufactured and sold
The land that was stolen stripped of all of its gold
Old timers on the death bed speakin' the wisdom
Immigrants crucified by conservative Christians
Now we all got freedom to die in the street
But the difference is more of us die in a week
Than they die in a year I made it clear
Where I stand when the line is drawn
But now the line is gone
And nigga anything goes
The land where the guns don't let anything grow
And what the fuck you niggaz know about living in hell
You not built like me you never lived in a cell
You never gambled with your soul
Fuck the ice on your hand, gun in your palm
But you got a niggaz life in your hand
Young man, just remember that slicing a gram
Is a bloody game, like throwin' mice in a fan
My words flow like the rivers thats west of Iran
The fertile crescent moon, with the star in the middle
I reveal the depth of history's scars when I scribble
I gave you the world, and I ain't even charged you a little
The martyr is crippled
The prophets are dead and buried, but the message is simple
And its not written down in holy books as a riddle

Now we running through the streets, starvin'
On that guerilla warfare
My people stuck in a guerilla warfare
Innocent children screamin' in tears
You actin' like the army ain't put hell here
Military industry havin' a swell year
Swinging a gat while lying in heaven
Living off a blank check after 9/11
But I'm have the truth brought back to the source
Fight for my land with physical force
Speak through music, the subliminal course
I need a tech and a clip, fuck a Jag and a Porsche
Land of the gun, land of the gun, land of the gun, land of the gun

>> ^quantumushroom:
If you ever wonder why no one takes you seriously, it's this. This is why.
You got a 'P' next to your handle. I was annoying libs 'round here when you were in your crib shitting yellow mustard.
Raz me over pointing out a rather blatant "subliminal" sticker, which could just as easily have been out of the shot? Go back and count the number of anti-Fox sifts--no matter the content--and tell me with a straight face how I'm being nitpicky. HA.
ACLU? With its anti-religion agenda based on a fraudulent interpretation of the 1st Amendment, it's been making many people's lives miserable over nothing for decades. What do I care that this doof has been inconvenienced by the Big Government he craves? So has the "reporter"! Imagine a reporter with terminal cancer reporting on terminal cancer victims.
BTW, the misleading title of this sift makes one believe the TSA deliberately singled out the CNN reporter because he described them in an unflattering light, yet he has NO evidence, only an implication, kind of like "Bush lied." No evidence of a crime, therefore no impeachment.
Since over one milion people are also on the list "by accident", we can conclude they're all liberals working for the ACLU and/or CNN.


Wow! QM, I'm impressed. Reading that, you actually sounded reasonable and unprovocative. I think that's the first time I've actually seen some logic showing through in your arguments. Not that it hasn't been there all along, just nice to see it. Cheers! (no snark intended)

If you ever wonder why no one takes you seriously, it's this. This is why.

You got a 'P' next to your handle. I was annoying libs 'round here when you were in your crib shitting yellow mustard.

Raz me over pointing out a rather blatant "subliminal" sticker, which could just as easily have been out of the shot? Go back and count the number of anti-Fox sifts--no matter the content--and tell me with a straight face how I'm being nitpicky. HA.

ACLU? With its anti-religion agenda based on a fraudulent interpretation of the 1st Amendment, it's been making many people's lives miserable over nothing for decades. What do I care that this doof has been inconvenienced by the Big Government he craves? So has the "reporter"! Imagine a reporter with terminal cancer reporting on terminal cancer victims.

BTW, the misleading title of this sift makes one believe the TSA deliberately singled out the CNN reporter because he described them in an unflattering light, yet he has NO evidence, only an implication, kind of like "Bush lied." No evidence of a crime, therefore no impeachment.

Since over one milion people are also on the list "by accident", we can conclude they're all liberals working for the ACLU and/or CNN.

Because concerning the subconscious, it is reality-debasing violence. Cutting without blood, physical damage without pain, violence consistent enough to be considered a main plot gimmick; All done in the guise of charming and playful action in a media form that is primarily considered for kids(and trusted by kids.) Like child-targeted commercials and all subliminal media, it's not that I have a problem with the content but rather the way it is relayed. Questioning the subconscious impact of media is a skill that children have not yet developed.
the corporation - advertisements targeting children:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMDPql6rweo

Tom and Jerry - The Two Mouseketeers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjytLcdpZk0

In reply to this comment by Farhad2000:
Curious to hear why in your book Tom and Jerry is R. I can understand why Saving Private Ryan is PG-13 though...

In reply to this comment by rabidness:
Coming from a gamer :
I would rather see the kid playing counterstrike instead of team fortress 2.
I would rather see the kid playing a game with realistic violence with realistic consequences(screams, blood, death) than playing a cartoonish parody of violence which whitewashes nearly all consequences of the act.
I would rather see the kid watching Saving Private Ryan(rating PG-13 in my book) instead of Tom and Jerry(rating R in my book.)

I think most childhood violence happens due to the 'acceptable'(aka unreal) violence in our daily media consumption. It subconsciously debases all reality of the act. I ask you, are parents who slaughter an animal on the family farm worse human beings because the child now has an understanding of death? I hope you realize 'no.'

I know most parents want to hold onto their child's innocence as long as they can, but that's their style of parenting. It takes all kinds, right?

That's the trouble with minions these days. They don't blindly obey as much as they used too. Have you tried looking into malformed genetic mutants?

In reply to this comment by NicoleBee:
Are you saying my minions don't respect me?

AND I THREW THEM A CHRISTMAS PARTY AND EVERYTHING.

In reply to this comment by gorgonheap:
I would suggest putting subliminal messages in your blog so as you can influence over other VS members. Soon everyone will fear and respect the name NicoleBee!... Wait really, that's your screen name? Oi we got a lot of work to do if that name is to strike terror into the hearts of your future minions.

Are you saying my minions don't respect me?

AND I THREW THEM A CHRISTMAS PARTY AND EVERYTHING.

In reply to this comment by gorgonheap:
I would suggest putting subliminal messages in your blog so as you can influence over other VS members. Soon everyone will fear and respect the name NicoleBee!... Wait really, that's your screen name? Oi we got a lot of work to do if that name is to strike terror into the hearts of your future minions.