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Vegan Diet or Mediterranean Diet: Which Is Healthier?

transmorpher says...

Not so much non-vegans, but companies that sell non vegan products are viewing it as a loss of revenue. Even a 7% drop in sales is a lot of money on a country sized scale. They're constantly putting industry sponsored spokes people on talk TV to tell you that being vegan will make your dick fly off like gluten :-)

Particularly primary agriculture industries. Companies further up the consumer chain just end up selling a vegan line of their product, so they aren't so worried about it - which is also why I'm more inclined to believe that the figure is closer to 7%, as I'm seeing even mainstream companies sell non-dairy variants of their flagship ice cream, and large pizza chains with vegan pizzas on their menus. I'd imagine it wouldn't be worth their while unless they had some good numbers to go by, and would otherwise leave it to niche companies.

But it could also just be that they've discovered that vegans will basically do their brand promotions for free over social media, and could just be exploiting that. (Every time a company releases a vegan version of X, a Facebook storm ensues, and companies like free advertising)

newtboy said:

Lol. Good point.....dirty hippies. ;-)

Um....what? Vegans should want to avoid them almost as much as the hunter's helper and slaughterhouse sucker brand lozenges, not flock to the brand marketed at meat harvesters.

Um...really? You think non vegans fear a vegan culinary takeover or something enough to falsify studies/polls? That's hilarious.


As to the 7% number, even vegan organizations in Britain disagree, as does Wiki....
According to a 2018 survey by Comparethemarket.com, the number of people who identify as vegans in the United Kingdom has risen to over 3.5 million, which is approximately seven percent of the population, and environmental concerns were a major factor in this development.[140] However, doubt was cast on this inflated figure by the UK-based Vegan Society, who perform their own regular survey: the Vegan Society themselves found in 2018 that there were 600,000 vegans in Great Britain (1.16%), which is a dramatic increase on previous figures.[141][142]
United States: Estimates of vegans in the U.S. vary from 2% (Gallup, 2012)[143] to 0.5% (Faunalytics, 2014). According to the latter, 70% of those who adopted a vegan diet abandoned it.

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George H.W. Bush, American War Criminal

newtboy says...

No sir.

I'm addressing his comment about the invasion of Iraq happening because of "Saddam's campaign of genocide against his own people and his conquest of Kuwait." when that's absolutely not how the invasion was sold to us by W. That's only partially how Desert Shield was sold by Sr. (Keeping in mind the gassing had happened years earlier), but that didn't remove or even target Saddam and barely went into Iraq, so clearly wasn't designed to remove him from power or stop his atrocities, just to stop his expansion into our allies territories.

The invasion of Iraq and direct targeting of Saddam was by W, not Sr. and are what led to the current state of the region far more than any result of Desert Storm...what I thought he meant by "blaming Sr. for Iraq"....I read that as 'blaming Sr. for the current state of Iraq and the region'.
I may have misunderstood what he meant by "blaming Sr for Iraq", but I can tell the difference between bushes.

My_design said:

Wrong Bush.

"That's what she said!"

The ground looks like it's breathing

RFlagg says...

Roots just under the cover of the moss, add high speed winds...
Weather Channel had a short story about it: https://weather.com/news/trending/video/creepy-canadian-forest-appears-to-be-breathing-whats-really-at-play/

Forbes (not exactly a bastion of science to be sure) also suggests that the storm had made the ground wet, which reduced the soil's cohesion adding to the effect: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbressan/2018/10/21/the-ground-looks-like-its-breathing-in-this-video

Oroville Spillways Phase 2 Update Final Dentate Placement

BSR says...

Sounds like someone didn't do their homework the first time.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/08/13/oroville-dam-see-before-and-after-video-of-construction-progress/

Also in January, an independent team of experts who reviewed the spillway failure concluded in a report that Department of Water Resources officials were “overconfident and complacent” and gave “inadequate priority for dam safety” for decades at Oroville.

They noted that main concrete spillway at the 770-foot tall dam north of Sacramento, in Butte County, was built in the late 1960s on poor quality rock. The spillway, only seven inches thick in some areas and not adequately anchored, cracked in multiple places in the following years, allowing water to flow underneath. On Feb. 7, 2017, water from powerful winter storms rushed under the massive spillway, which forced up its giant slabs and ripped a huge hole in the structure causing one of the most serious dam emergencies in California history.

SFOGuy said:

OK, I'll be that guy; the last overflow ripped away the last spillway like it was made of tissue paper; what's different about this one?

Trump On Bullying Ford-"Doesn't Matter, We Won"

bobknight33 says...

Merrick Garland was sidelined due to political blocking. Politics is mean and he lost. If it was a like for like (Sotomayor , Kagan) no one would argue and no Republican did. Republican let these go to the SCOTUS with ease.




Kavanaugh replaced a moderate ( Kennedy ), which tilts the supreme court to the right for once in a long time.

Next might be Ginsburg. At 85 and looking frail. A hard liberal stepping down and being replace by a moderate would make replacing Kavanaugh look G rated.

Replacing with a conservative would be an XXX storm by the left.

newtboy said:

Oh, you have a good point, I mean let's look back at how low and devisively hyper liberal the last nomination was.....oh yeah, Merrick Garland, not a bit.
Sorry, you reflexively spouted more divisive partisan bullshit, again. Your team is the ridiculous adolescently vindictive team wholly uninterested in bipartisan governing.

Hurricane Michael obliterates Mexico Beach, FL

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The Ocean Cleanup Launches To The Great Pacific Garbage Patc

ant (Member Profile)

Why Hong Kong's buildings are full of holes.

Living on the Most Crowded Island on Earth

newtboy (Member Profile)

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Second Ellicott City 'Thousand Year Storm' in 2 years

eric3579 says...

@Mordhaus

What i was trying to say is that the thousand year rain event is not a one storm event. What makes it a thousand year rain event is that there were two of these storms in a two year period. That was my understanding. Maybe im wrong but it's what i took from that quote from the Washington Post article. The thing is the title of the article(basically same as yours) makes it awfully confusing to what's what. I give up.



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