I find it best to avoid stern looking men with assault rifles altogether. This goes doubly so if their boss makes them wear a stupid looking hat to work. That's bound to put anyone in a contrary mood.

Police don't treat anyone with respect, unless it's someone above them in the government food chain.

Also, respect is a non issue. Expecting anything more than 'being ignored' by those around you is expecting too much. No one is obligated to respect you. They just shouldn't mess with you.

I've been approached at gunpoint, and I've been give a rundown of made up charges, does that make me black?

I also have coworkers and friends that have gone to court for made up charges - because a cop felt like grimacing.

The idea that inappropriate police behavior is a 'black problem' is at best short sighted.

That said, I agree that it's obvious that blacks on average get a bigger F U from cops than whites do.

(Ironically, statistics show that black cops also fuck with blacks more than they fuck with whites - which indicates that there are also cultural issues at play.)



I don't know why the kid wasn't shot.

Maybe the cop saw a scrawny white kid and simply didn't feel intimidated.

Maybe the cop really wanted to shoot the kid, but his department was keenly aware of the recent police brutality issues on TV and gave everyone headed to the scene a stern talking to about how if they make <whatever town it was> into the next city with protests, they'll all be looking for new jobs and will be charged with crimes.

I don't know, I wasn't there.

-scheherazade

He probably would have had a stern word with you about all the assumptions you're making too.

You've said the guy was unarmed as if it was an established fact when he was shot when it wasn't. You have said he was non-violent but his movement and demeanour certainly weren't submissive, and one really has to wonder what he was planning to do when he got close enough to the officer, kiss him?

My position in all this is that as a Brit I think it's madness that police have to go around with guns all the time. This simply couldn't happen in the UK so as far as I'm concerned it's a fully avoidable situation, just put all the fucking guns down.

However, it's really not that easy. Guns are everywhere in America so the police have to act accordingly. It's really easy with hindsight to say all the things you're saying but in the heat of the moment that cop has to assume the guy is armed and dangerous. That's the effect of having guns everywhere.

They're on the edge of a highway at night, the guy is lit with flashing lights and car headlights going past. This makes seeing bulges or anything like that that might indicate a weapon very difficult and yet you think the officer should have been able to tell this and be happy to risk his life on it? Bullshit.

People are suggesting that under the same circumstances it's a simple job to aim for an extremity and it's a guaranteed hit. Really? It's that easy? So easy you'd stake your life on it?

The guy committed suicide by cop. Plain and simple. He wasn't a compliant victim, he was a threat to the officer. His shuffling was strange and that in isolation isn't threatening, but shuffling closer and closer to an armed officer is a different story.

Maybe the cop should have pulled a tazer first? That wouldn't help much if the guy came out of the car with a gun. Or would it? I don't know. If a tazer would have worked in that situation please put me right, I'm no expert. To me it seems if a guy comes out of the car with a gun and points it at the officer then a gun would be more use in defence than a tazer. Same with pepper spray.

So maybe the officer should put the gun away as soon as he's established that the guy isn't armed? That's fine, I'm all in agreement there. But nowhere in the video is he able to establish that as fact. So if he started with a gun he sure as hell should still have it drawn all the way through this video.

I'm really fucking glad I don't have to deal with anything like this in the UK. It's shit that this happens. But given the prevalence of guns in the US I can't see any way this could have gone differently without risking the situation becoming like the videos reiwan posted.

I'm not thinking in binary. There's gray area.

There's no debate about the fact that virtually everyone is somewhat racist. This isn't a debate about that.

I'm saying making any joke that is related to race isn't racist every single time, just as avoiding saying anything that could be construed as racist doesn't mean you're absolved of being a racist.

A joke that is actually racist is expressing an idea or feeling of one race's superiority over another directly or indirectly through humor.

Ironically making racial statements that I absolutely don't believe is NOT racist because I'm not expressing racial superiority. I'm pointing out the idiocy of racism and poking fun at racists.

About the random black person overhearing my joking, yeah, they'd be offended. Thank you for making my point. They'd be offended precisely because they heard those words out of context.

If you saw a grown man say this to a little girl sternly:

"...go cry me a river..."

You might be inclined to think he was acting like a jerk to her. But what if you had heard....

"It's a figure of speech. If you ever for example hear someone say 'go cry me a river', they don't actually mean one person's tears can be that much water."

It's the SAME THING. That man did nothing wrong, but you heard him say 'go cry me a river' to a little girl without context, it may look bad, when it's not.

Just because someone may get offended by hearing something out of context, it is not automatically something wrong with what that person said.

Even the dreaded N-word... Are you telling me that it was wrong and racist for Mark Twain to use it in The Adventures of Huckleberry Fin?

The one thing I would agree with you is that you also have to be mindful of context before saying the joke. Those racial jokes I make? I'm not going to say those in situations where there's a high likelihood that those statements could be overheard and misinterpreted. If I wanted to tell those to a black person, I'd make REALLY sure they knew I didn't actually believe the racial statement.

And you know what? Usually, it turns out fine. I've played that Louis CK thing for a black friend of mine, but I laid down the context first that it's Patrice O'Neal, etc. And they laughed hysterically at it.

Richard Pryor is considered by most comics as being a pioneer in using comedy to shed light and provide insights into racial tensions, etc., and actually is credited by many people far beyond just comedians to have helped further the cause of fighting against racism.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5048430

His use of the N-word wasn't racist. The use of the word was communicating that he was not Bill Cosby, not that there was anything wrong with Cosby's comedy, but it was to signal that he was talking more about reality, including the rough edges especially about racial topics, and there wasn't anything wrong with that either.

The kill somebody thing. You ever seen someone say something like, "My roommate AGAIN left all the lights on! I'm gonna kill him!"? My point there is you shouldn't call the cops because you think he's homicidal.

I think you might be confused who you are talking to sometimes. There is a lot wrong with your statement here. You equate the other posters knowledge of molecular structure of the drug and it's experience itself because of this statement...."yeah, you def. didn't do enough and/or the right strain." Then you cross over/confuse what I said about theraputic effect. You have no clue how much I take or the effect I am affected long term by.

I sternly suggest you go over your messages before you submit them, and stop being so ass hurt when someone gives you a downvote, its a fucking button click you take as someone kicked your mom in the head. You mention DMT you get a downvote, tired of your broken record one note pony bullshit, now I am learning you are presumptuous and projecting.

I can't tell who's comment you're referencing with your first comment. I hope not me, cops are all individuals in my eyes, even if it may not seem like it sometimes because they are also a 'team'.

I see your comment as an issue of respect needing to be earned, and also being a two way street. When police over react, or act disrespectfully insulting to a perceived insult (even actual insult), it denies them the respect tomorrow that they are upset about not receiving today. I think most of us expect them to be the professional in any situation and understand they just have to deal with some assholes, not devolve to the level of those they are disgusted by. EDIT: People in many professions have to deal with dicks daily, but only one profession typically responds with indignant violence.
I did see the mans dancing as a dick move, just not one that deserved the reaction it received. A stern "HEY! Get the fuck out of here!" would have done nicely from the cop in the van, and may have earned some respect instead of losing some.

I agree with your last statement, but let's think, who got smacked?

The medicine is a stern teacher, her lessons are worth heeding.

At around the 1:20 mark the ship starts to suddenly move screen left. There are also loud sounds. I believe the ship struck the canal on the port side, where we could not see. Forward momentum (which is massive on these ships) caused the path to divert starboard, crushing the mule. Massive ships like that barely fit through the canal, so it is critical they align straight as they enter. You can see earlier in the video that the ship's stern was much further away from the side of the canal than the bow. They simply can't enter at such an angle. Clearly somebody was in a hurry to move traffic along and ignored proper protocols.

Wow, half-listen much?

Amazing that not only did she not hear what he said but that no one else talking in her earpiece was paying any attention.

Great that he had a chance to go for round two with her follow-up question, but he was so surprised he was still on the air he just decided to scold her instead.

I haven't listened to Stern since he was on free radio. What the hell is this guy's name again? Captain... what? I can't believe I've forgotten, but it's been many years.

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Ah, it just hit me: Captain Jenks. (Right?)

Thanks a lot

Have to say, I just recently came across this Howard Stern guy and I dig his 'ask any question that pops into his head' approach.

Too bad Conan didn't pull a Stern and go to some channel with no censorship.

I encountered many bad storms crossing the Atlantic on the QE2. The worst was so bad that, stupidly venturing to the stern, my band mate and I witnessed the ship surfing on a wave which was, at least, 10 feet above the ship. We listed severely many times, and it was all jolly good fun until one list which saw the piano come out of its metal securing feet, and the roulette tables flying against the wall. But she didn't come back and kept on listing to port - strange as it seems, all I could think of was the "Poseidon adventure." and how I would orientate when she flipped over. The laughter had stopped and we just looked at each other waiting, and hoping, that she would right herself. Seriously, we were scared to death. The next day I passed the Captain and said; "I honestly didn't think the old girl was going to recover from that list." He didn't smile, and in the typical British manner replied; "Actually, neither did I."

So you do have waivers, or at least arrangements about how to deal with young kids leaving schools. That's all that's going on here. To have any sort of arrangement for older kids would be strange. High schoolers often have their own car and can come and go as they please.

Also:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/minister-every-school-can-have-a-police-officer-880315.html

You do have cops at schools. It's a recent development here too, and not at all widespread. The only cops I was ever familiar with at schools were "DARE" officers who taught don't do drugs class. I never saw one enforce anything beyond giving a stern look at the occasional teenager. Common fucking sense states that this is a video on the internet because it is not the status quo. At all.

Finally "people" didn't say it was right that he was arrested. One guy implied maybe we don't know the whole story. Then you flew off the handle.

My understanding is that british schools ban kids from having best friends and teachers from using red ink. That's fucking weird, and I saw it on the internet, so it must be true.

did he say Glenn Beck lives outside the law??

I may not care for Mr Beck, but as far as I know he's not a criminal.

People like Beck, Jillette, and Howard Stern are ultimately attention cravers. and craving attention doesn't care if you're left or right.

If you gave these people enough money to say an opinion that runs counter to what they actually believe, they'd do it as long as they got their attention. There's an old Daily Show clip back when the Health Care debate first started where Beck was praising the health care system as being second to none, Ole Johnny Stewart easily finds a clip of Beck doing a "documentary" where Beck himself had to go to the hospital and he's complaining about how bad it is. So you just pay these people enough money and you'll get them to say whatever you want them to regardless of what they've said in the past.

he said the same thing in his Howard Stern interview.