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From The Programmer's Mouth: How The Election Was Fixed

wax66 says...

I can't wait for the day that politicians aren't technophobes and can hire companies that will do the job right the first time. 100 lines of code for a $var++, sure, but that's SUCH a small part of the issue. Encryption of transfers, written data, memory, detailed and possibly remote checksummed logging, all of that needs to be part of it, and probably more that a proper security guru would know.

As for those of you that think it's a sick joke, I seriously doubt it. I too know how easy it would be for them to rig an election in this way.

From The Programmer's Mouth: How The Election Was Fixed

The Philosophy of Liberty

qualm says...

I bet all of the libertarians you've heard of are right-wing libertarians, ie., strong proponents ('proponent' means 'for' not 'against') of "Austrian School" economics, which are at the far end of the right-wing. That is, unless you are using the term in the historically proper European sense. Practically everywhere else in the world but the US the word "libertarian" means something quite different than it does in the United States. In the United States "libertarianism" almost invariably refers to anarcho-capitalism.

Send your check to PO Box 10340, Station 5...

edited to add:

Perhaps you've seen people like Noam Chomsky, for one example, describe himself as a "libertarian socialist" and become confused.

Here is a relevant quote from Chomsky:

“Anarcho-capitalism, in my opinion, is a doctrinal system which, if ever implemented, would lead to forms of tyranny and oppression that have few counterparts in human history. There isn't the slightest possibility that its (in my view, horrendous) ideas would be implemented, because they would quickly destroy any society that made this colossal error. The idea of ‘free contract’ between the potentate and his starving subject is a sick joke, perhaps worth some moments in an academic seminar exploring the consequences of (in my view, absurd) ideas, but nowhere else.

“I should add, however, that I find myself in substantial agreement with people who consider themselves anarcho-capitalists on a whole range of issues; and for some years, was able to write only in their journals. And I also admire their commitment to rationality -- which is rare -- though I do not think they see the consequences of the doctrines they espouse, or their profound moral failings.”

“The American version of ‘libertarianism’ is an aberration, though--nobody really takes it seriously. I mean, everybody knows that a society that worked by American libertarian principles would self-destruct in three seconds. The only reason people pretend to take it seriously is because you can use it as a weapon. Like, when somebody comes out in favor of a tax, you can say: ‘No, I'm libertarian, I'm against that tax’--but of course, I'm still in favor of the government building roads, and having schools, and killing Libyans, and all that sort of stuff.

“Now, there are consistent libertarians, people like Murray Rothbard [American academic]--and if you just read the world that they describe, it's a world so full of hate that no human being would want to live in it. This is a world where you don't have roads because you don' see any reason why you should cooperate in building a road that you're not going to use: if you want a road, you get together with a bunch of other people who are going to use that road and you build it, then you charge people to ride on it. If you don't like the pollution from somebody's automobile, you take them to court and you litigate it. Who would want to live in a world like that? It's a world built on hatred.

“The whole things not even worth talking about, though. First of all, it couldn't function for a second--and if it could, all you'd want to do is get out, or commit suicide or something. But this is a special American aberration, it's not really serious.”

End quote.


The video here is three quarters of an exposition on precisely the "right-wing libertarian" or "anarcho-capitalist" worldview elucidated above. Ron Paul is a proponent of this reprehensible worldview.

Olbermann: FISA & Fear Mongering/Bush Domestic Surveillance

joedirt says...

Anyone else horrified by the use of the word "homeland"??? WTF! This used to be a "country" and a "nation". In the most overtly Orwellian sick joke, Bush brazenly uses homeland over and over again. Does anyone know any history? You want to not be compared to Nazis, try not sounding like them, and following their game plan to the letter.

People used to find it outrageous to compare heir decider to Hitler, but you would be daft to not compare the two maniacs.



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