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CNN anchors taken to school over bill mahers commentary

shinyblurry says...

Nonsense.

If you were a true Christian, you'd follow the laws of the old testament too.
I presume you don't go into town everyday and put people of other religions to the sword?


I want to address this scripture quotation first:

Matthew 5:17

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

You have fundamentally misunderstood what Jesus is saying here. What do you think He is talking about? What do you think He means when He said He came to fulfill the law? Please elaborate.. This, however, is what He was talking about:

John 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

He fulfilled what the law and prophets said about Him on the cross.

Luke 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

What did they write concerning Him?

Luke 24:25 And he said to them, "O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken!

Luke 24:26 Was it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?"

You need to understand what was written about Jesus and how He fulfilled it before you can understand what He was talking about.

Your misunderstanding of the gospel and Old Testament law not withstanding, a true Christian is not under the old covenant, they are under the new covenant.

Romans 10:4-10 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them.

But the righteousness based on faith says, "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'" (that is, to bring Christ down) "or 'Who will descend into the abyss?'" (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).

But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim);
because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.

The old covenant is for Israel, the new covenant is for the whole world. Christians are not under law, but grace.

Romans 6:14 For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.

So you can drop the "no true scotsman" fallacy....

It's funny you would invoke this fallacy, yet state earlier "If you were a true Christian.." Yet, according to Jesus, there are true and false Christians:

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

A true Muslim follows Allah, and Allah has instructed his followers to exterminate all of the nonbelievers.

ChaosEngine said:

Nonsense.

If you were a true Christian, you'd follow the laws of the old testament too.
I presume you don't go into town everyday and put people of other religions to the sword?

So you can drop the "no true scotsman" fallacy....

CNN anchors taken to school over bill mahers commentary

ChaosEngine says...

Nonsense.

If you were a true Christian, you'd follow the laws of the old testament too.
I presume you don't go into town everyday and put people of other religions to the sword?

So you can drop the "no true scotsman" fallacy....

shinyblurry said:

When a Muslim flies a plane into a building, they are not following a radical interpretation of the Quran, they are following a normative interpretation of the Quran. The Quran commands Muslims to kill Christians and Jews and to wage endless jihad against all unbelievers. The jihadists are the true Muslims whereas the peaceful Muslims are the ones who don't follow the Quran. The difference between violent Christians and Muslims is, violent Christians are going against the teachings of Jesus Christ, whereas violent Muslims are following the teachings of Muhammad.

Bill Maher and Ben Affleck go at it over Islam

VoodooV says...

Keep in mind, I'm pretty sure Bill is coming at this from a viewpoint that all religion is bad. This one is just moreso.

There are moderates and radicals in every religion. You don't get to just white wash the radicals away with a "no true Scotsman" fallacy.

Jeremy Scahill: media has failed to cover massacre in Gaza

Plausible Deniablity Fail. The Silence is Deafening.

A direct recording of Alexander Graham Bell's voice

chingalera says...

I din't know Bell was a Scotsman-Could have sworn I'd heard this recording before and it sounded just as distorted...Is this process supposed to clean an old recording up or to get the track off of an otherwise unplayable source?

Young man shot after GPS error

Man complains about Bodyform ad, Bodyform responds

hpqp says...

Bodyform accompanied their video with the statement: “We loved Richard’s wicked sense of humour. We are always grateful for input from our users, but his comment was particularly poignant. If Facebook had a ‘love’ button, we’d have clicked it. But it doesn’t. So we’ve made Richard a video instead. Unfortunately Bodyform doesn’t have a CEO. But if it did she’d be called Caroline Williams. And she’d say this.” (source)

Epic Back-And-Forth From "In The Loop"

4 Years Ago Iowa Was EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!

Jinx says...

No true Scotsman.

It really shouldn't matter. Iowa is a placebo, a self fulfilling prophecy. Only Ron Paul is too large a pill to swallow. If people don't believe its significant it won't be.

A Scotsman who can't watch a movie without yelling at the TV

Christians Beat Daughter to Death Claim It Was Suicide

hpqp says...

a.k.a. the no true Scotsman fallacy. Also: citation needed.
>> ^silvercord:

According to Jesus they are not representative of any Christians and for them to call themselves that is the height of hypocrisy. For someone else to call them that is disingenuous at best. >> ^FlowersInHisHair:
These people may not be representative of all Christians, true. But the problem is that it is entirely possible to find support for their actions in the Bible. "To Train Up A Child" isn't the only book they should be throwing away here.


Obama knew of Rep. strategy on debt ceiling 9 months ago

Obama knew of Rep. strategy on debt ceiling 9 months ago

direpickle says...

>> ^quantumushroom:

Why are the socialists pretending they've "lost" because there were no tax hikes?
The "spending cuts" barely amount to a paper cut.
As Rand Paul said:
“The President called for a “balanced approach.” But the American people are calling for a balanced budget. This deal does nothing to fix the overreaches of both parties over the past few years: Obamacare, TARP, trillion-dollar wars, runaway entitlement spending. They are all cemented into place with this deal, and their legacy will be trillions of dollars in new debt."
Every time The Kenyanesque Hawaiian was declared a naked emperor and enemy of free market capitalism, the left balked. Meanwhile Jugears and Co. have been overclocking the economic engine for three years with non-stop spending. This clown never wanted jobs growth, he wanted 'brakes' on the economy and America in general, they are his idealogical enemies.
taxocrats = traitors
RINOs = traitors


No True Scotsman

Driving into Phoenix Dust Storm 7/5/11



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