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Weatherman nails pronouncing longest place name in UK

modulous says...

Well, I don't know what this is worth but I live within a 100 miles of Llanfair and this pronunciation is about as right as it gets. Saying the full place name is something of a challenge and I was taught it by a teacher of mine who was very Welsh. I got bonus points as a kid cos I could remember the English translation as well. I'm going to bet that the only reason they bothered to put this village on a national weather map was because they knew the weatherman is one of those that have taken the few hours of time it takes to commit it to memory and wanted a Youtube moment.

Once there, it is so weird it rarely leaves.

It sounds like he learned this the way I did: break it into sections. For help I memorised English ish words to guide me through the journey:
Llanfair (lllllLand fire!)
pwllgwyngyll (pullll Gwen Gilllll)
gogerychwyrn (Gagarin twin)
drobwll (doubllllll)
llantysilio (llland silly Oh or silo if you prefer)
gogogoch (Go! Go! Goch!)

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artician says...

I do this exact thing with the Scottish pronunciation of "Shite". I can use it around most people without them realizing, or if they do realize they don't say a thing just because it doesnt sound like "shit".

Americans are stupid. My mother would wash my mouth out with soap when I was a child if I said something "Sucks".

modulous said:

It's funny how language works really. 'Ass' is not a nice word? In my UK experience we tend towards 'ass' being the PG version of 'arse'

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ulysses1904 says...

He cracked me up at 7:40 with the Spanish lisp thing. One of my pet gripes, people that study Spanish but speak it with their flat, schwa-infested lazy english pronunciation but then do a Daffy Duck impression by attempting a Spain accent. They usually have a misspelled Chinese tattoo to complete the picture.

Ioan Gruffudd's Very Odd Name

worthwords says...

Welsh is a complete phonetic language - the digraphs LL, Dd, Ch, etc follow predicable pronunciation as opposed to english with often requires a-priory knowledge about pronunciation.

'Ll' is a single letter in welsh so it would be wrong to read it as related to the english 'L' which seems to be why english speaks sound so retarded trying to say 'Llanelli' or 'machynlleth'

Disclaimer : welsh is my native language and I have met Ioan Gryffyth at various cultural events.

Ioan Gruffudd's Very Odd Name

ChaosEngine says...

Oh yeah, English is a total mongrel language. It happily steals words from other languages all the time. It's one of the reasons it's so versatile (and complex).

Arkansas, for example, is not an English word; it's a French pronunciation of a Sioux word!

Lilithia said:

Reminds me of the English language. That's even worse! They write "knee" and "knob", but say "nee" and "nob". They write "bomb" and "lamb", but say "bom" and "lam". "Women" is pronounced "wimin", for §$&%'s sake!
And look at this state name: Arkansas. Looks like it should be Ar-Kansas, right? Nope, it's Ar-can-saw.
You can't just make up your own pronunciation!

Ioan Gruffudd's Very Odd Name

Lilithia jokingly says...

Reminds me of the English language. That's even worse! They write "knee" and "knob", but say "nee" and "nob". They write "bomb" and "lamb", but say "bom" and "lam". "Women" is pronounced "wimin", for §$&%'s sake!
And look at this state name: Arkansas. Looks like it should be Ar-Kansas, right? Nope, it's Ar-can-saw.
You can't just make up your own pronunciation!

ChaosEngine said:

Welsh... mental language.

Seriously, look at this town name: Llanelli.

Looks like it should be LA- NEL-EE, right?
Nope, it's clan ech li. Goddamnit Wales, there is no 'c' or 'g' in Llanelli!! You cannot go around making up spelling!

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Missy Elliott - Work It (flip it and reverse it)

blahpook says...

A friend took an informal poll asking everyone how they pronounced and spelled their pronunciation of Missy Elliott's lyric. I'm guessing @plastiquemonkey's is in the tags.

Mine is something like "It's yer permanicker flenyet." Or, when I'm hungry, "it's your pumpernickel flan yet."

Chappie Full trailer

ChaosEngine says...

Actually no, I know I have an Irish accent. And yes, everyone has some kind of accent, but it's a question of degrees. A Scottish accent or a deep south US accent is far more pronounced than a neutral English accent.

The point is that an accent is a deviation from standard pronunciation.

I guess that if an AI "learned" language from Die Antwoord, it would have a South African accent. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a scene where Dev Patel leaves and finds the robot has learned to speak while he was away.

Anyway, as I said... because movies.

Hugh Jackmans haircut is still stupid though

schlub said:

What do you consider to be no accent? The way you speak? Newsflash: you have an accent too - everyone does...

If They Were Smart

Jinx says...

Idk, I think it starts off life as an ironic exclamation and sort of slips into your vocab. Personally I prefer to spell it out - "el oh el". As lol is an acronym I believe this is probably a more proper pronunciation, but it also sounds more deliberate, and therefore ironic.

But yes. It is exactly replacing that faked laugh that we produce both as a sort of social courtesy to others who made an effort to make us smile, or to communicate that we recognise a humourous situation. Why use it? Well, why use any colloquialism/slang?

Frankly I'd rather be the dickhead that uses it than the dickhead that thinks adding "Selfie" to the dictionary represents an erosion of the language. I really have no patience for those that seem to think we should enclose our language in a glass case and play with it delicately lest we damage the exhibit.

AeroMechanical said:

The biggest fail in this video is the bit at the end where the guy says "lol" aloud, actually meaning it with no sense of irony, and thus demonstrating that while perhaps logically understanding the concept of humor, he does not actually possess human emotions.

Or have I just been generation gapped? Is it now acceptable to just say "lol" instead of smiling and faking a half-laugh when you need to politely acknowledge someone has done or said something intended to be funny but that hasn't actually moved you to laughter?

Italian Chef Trying to Pronounce Worcestershire Sauce

billpayer says...

@A10anis is nearly right. Correct pronunciation is "Wus - ta - shir" sauce

I once walked past the factory where they make it.
The entire neighborhood stank of Twiglets.
One breath was like a lung full of the stuff.

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Israel-Palestine: Russell Brand tears down Sean Hannity

qfan says...

Couple of points on his followup, none of which is intended to defend the unprofessional style of the Fox interviewer.

* Makes excuse for the Hamas charter stating "they're just really angry".
* Picks on pronunciation, while calling Hannity childish in the previous video.
* Points out that Fox making fun after discussing a very serious situation reduced it to entertainment, then thanked his panel of Jesus, flowers and Gandhi.

Yes, he's a comedian, but this is precisely why he shouldn't have made the last charge. There's nothing wrong with making light at the end of a serious topic, as long as you're not making light of the topic itself.

billpayer said:

Follow up...

A First Drive - Google's Self-Driving Car

RedSky says...

Reaction times yes, but I think having a sufficient degree of certainty that the correct decision will be made is hard to conceive.

Imagine the legal liability of a clear software failure. Even if average accident rates were lower for automated cars, a clear incidence of failure would be a huge monetary legal risk. Whereas, if legal exceptions were carved out for the likes of Google, I doubt there would be very good consumer uptake.

I would suspect their automation algorithm are highly based on visual inputs. Pre-available GPS mapping data would get them only so far. These visual inputs are hugely variable. The number of different car makes, times of day, weather and road conditions among other things, would make for a incredible amount of scenarios to envisage.

I think voice recognition is very similar, if anything more constrained. The deciphering of combination of pitch, accent and pronunciation is a far simpler and smaller domain that we haven't mastered. That would seem to me to be demonstrable proof that automated cars to the level of reliability we would expect, are currently inconceivable.

HenningKO said:

But millisecond life or death decisions are what computers excel at. Unraveling the vagaries of human speech is a different problem. And the vagaries of human vision another.

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