Wait until the MAGA nuts cry foul and say: "Deep Fake!" like the snowflakes that they are.

Oops this turned into a semi rant. But I am legitimately open to discussion here, and am curious to get your thoughts on a few points Bob. That is, IF you're willing to actually think about them beyond the level of repeating talking points.

I find it interesting how divergent the two overall "sides" are in this country, in terms of where they focus. None of the issues brought up in this video are really on the radar of most progressives, beyond being aware some on the right are talking about them. And I'm guessing a lot of the concerns progressives discuss rarely come up in your chosen media landscape. A lot of the issues in the video are largely off of my radar, and I have to wonder how you feel they should be addressed - like, actual proposed solutions rather than just complaining about / worrying about them.

We only dedicate one day to remember our fallen soldiers

How many should there be? Arguably we have more than one already: there's Memorial Day and Veterans Day, and it seems that Sept 11th is often used for the purpose as well.

I'd argue we should spend more time acknowledging and understanding the principals behind WHY our soldiers died in the various conflicts which caused them to fall in the first place. Let's make sure our citizenry appreciates what we collectively rejected in the Revolutionary war. Why it was important that we kept the country together rather than allowing the south to split off in the mid-1800s. Why we chose to honor our diplomatic agreements and support our allies in WW1. Why we fought against the countries and governments we did in WW2. What our goals were in Korea and Vietnam, and what lessons we learned from those conflicts and from the Cold War in general. Commemorating and remembering those we've lost absolutely matters, but if we're ONLY doing that while forgetting why they fought OR ignoring what we learned then we're doing them an equal or greater disservice. Remember that America was built on the idea of forming "a more perfect union" - not a perfect one, a MORE perfect one - a work in progress. We're striving towards an ideal, not assuming we're already there. Learning from our past successes, failures, and our struggles around both outcomes is vital. If our self-analysis is no deeper than hero worship we'll never make real progress towards that theoretical perfect union.

The only mask that's gonna save us is duct tape on their mouths

Yeah, sound medical advice and evidence-based science is terrifying. Better to shut up those whose words we dislike, because we're reactionary authoritarian babymen. I truly do not understand being more afraid of reasonable safety measures than of a virus which has been shown to cause serious harm in the short and long terms. The only reason this "masks = liberal / maskless = conservative" crap came about is because politics has devolved to the level of team sports in the US, and one party has chosen "the opposite of whatever our political opponents say" as their entire governing philosophy. (And yes, ONE party - research and understand the GOP's 2020 platform if you want to argue the point.) This video even seems to reach a reasonable conclusion at the end, while coming up just short of that final logical leap to "maybe I should question what the public faces of MY side have been claiming in this Us vs Them madness." Seriously - keep going friend, you're almost there! George Washington was 100% right in wanting to avoid political parties being a force in the US, and it makes me immensely sad that his fears came true.

Big oil runs the world / the only wars to get fought are with the countries who have natural resources they want

Solid point here, no sarcasm. The US military has long been a tool of our profit-driven form of "free market" imperialism. A really great way to combat this, specifically with an eye to ending Big Oil's goddamn death grip on our foreign policy goals, would be an aggressive implementation of renewable energy projects. Remember the space race? America can be an absolute beast at clever engineering solutions when we dedicate ourselves to it. Fuck the petrostates, we have the available land and resources to absolutely kick ass in the realms of solar and wind power, and be leaders in the the post-hydrocarbon reality. We can certainly agree on that, right Bob? Left / Right nonsense fully aside, I think any reasonable American can agree on at least two points: let's stop sending heaps of cash to buy oil off of the Saudis (etc), and Fuck Cancer.

But if a white man acts too white he's white trash / he's a racist he's a bigot he's a monster

What the fuck is this horseshit? What does "acting too white" even fucking look like? Watching NASCAR on a sailboat while listening to polka? Typically when I see racism from white people it's in the form of denying that brown-hued people deal with any additional difficulties in life due to their skin tone, or denying that there have been structural obstacles for them through history, or lamenting that their white children are being burdened with a broader lens on culture or with (gasp! shock!) an accurate accounting of actual US history, including the ugly bits that we shouldn't be proud of (but MUST learn from). I'm progressive / lefty as fuck and there is no aspect of "white culture" or "acting white" which upsets me in the slightest. UNLESS one counts "denying racism exists / has ever existed" as a fundamental value of being white. Which... why would anyone want to claim that nonsense? If you want to listen to classic country music in a rusty pickup truck while driving to an evangelical church, then discuss hockey over Buds after 18 holes with the rest of your tractor pull team, then absolutely go nuts my fellow caucusoid! Just recognize and understand that your life experiences may not be the same as those of others. Further, if we care about trying to avoid unnecessary, avoidable unfairness in life (recognizing that life will never truly be fair, for anyone), then it might be reasonable for some governmental / legal / structural recognition in furtherance of that notion. There is absolutely room for legitimate policy disagreement here without being accused of racism. It's denial of others' reality which tends to garner the label of racist (sexist etc) - steer clear of denying the lived experiences of other people, allow for the possibility they may have encountered difficulties you haven't / won't, and we've room for further discussion.

Edit / final point: I voted the video back up to 0 from the -1 where I found it. Because while I disagree with a lot of the positions taken by the performer, they may have reached them through no fault of their own and with no true malice. Misinformation / disinformation is a devious shit of a motherfucker, and the rot it causes can run deep. It is painful to abandon deeply-held beliefs, on a fundamental level. If nothing else, the video gives us room to discuss some specific viewpoints held by people who think of themselves as good, but which can lead to harm.

Im not ! You definitely are.

Where is your radical Jan 6 drinking fool attacking Mr. Pelosi Video?

Surly there a plethora of vids for you to post from the Fake news.

You not holding you your leftist nut case values and really disingenuous to you Sifter followers.

Your Republican destruction of democracy for the day, maggots illegally harassing and chasing away voters using drop boxes in Maricopa county….big surprise the far right nut job sheriff there hasn’t stopped them.

https://videosift.com/video/Arizona-Republicans-Attacking-People-Trying-To-Vote

Not to mention the entrapments in Florida where officials cleared ex convicts to vote, then had them arrested on multiple felonies when they did as an effort to scare ALL legally voting ex convicts (except white collar convicts) out of voting blue. Mostly minorities have been targeted in this fraud, timed to influence the election through fear and intimidation, the rights only tools. These cases are already being tossed out of court, but that hasn’t slowed the targeted arrests of minorities and poor in a blatant effort to intimidate legal voters.

He actually exempted the three largest rich Republican counties in another blatant election interference scheme, because he knows full well Republicans cannot win fair elections even in Florida. Everyone knows Republicans can’t win fair elections, that’s why they should just be turned away in January as frauds or executed before they can illegally take office.
If only Democrats were really the party of death and destruction they would be, but it’s maggots that are the gun toting, aggressive, murderous terrorists, even at ANTIFA and BLM events it’s Maggots committing crimes largely, because your ilk are treasonous racist murderous criminal thugs too delicate to accept a loss, not upright adult citizens.

Being a normal person, I nearly forgot every accusation you make is an admission, especially personal accusations/insinuations.
Your admission that you are a “groomer” (of the far right pedophilic nut job definition) almost got past me.
You sick fucker. If I knew who you were, CPS would be on its way.
Once again, you admit to being a child abuser. Party of debauchery, despots, death, destruction, and dumb shits.
Now go get caught jerking it to preschoolers like your party leaders.

This nut job was caught again using fake props to lie, this time hiring actors to stand behind him at Warnock’s low income housing complex and pretend to have been evicted by Warnock’s church from the low income housing it provides so Walker could say “see, Warnock doesn’t care, he’s evicting the poor”….but no one had actually been evicted from the housing complex and his hired crisis actor props had never lived there.

Residents called out Walker during his Q and A session when he refused to answer any questions.

Residents of the complex verified that, while some received eviction notices in the past, no one had been forced to move and the church was working with every one of them to maintain their housing status.

Just one more in a never ending string of nonsense lies by this 100% mental defective thug that held his wife at gunpoint, beat multiple wives and children, and is everything he speaks against…an abusive deadbeat father, abortionist, and violent thug that never ever tells the truth….and a certified, diagnosed mental defective with serious mental issues that disqualify him from being a crossing guard, much less a public office holder…he should be committed for being a danger to himself or others after trying to kill his wife and family in a suicide attack.

BTW- it should be noted he claims to have prayed the multiple personality disorder and various other severe physical mental defects away….not a thing.

What’s this rambling about a mirror?

Because it’s not a real thing in grade schools, as the right claims falsely. It’s a real advanced course in law school 100% intentionally mischaracterized then claimed to be being taught in K-12….all outright lies by far right wing actors meant to politicize racism as a divisive ploy, and your side chose the “pro-racism” side.

It’s an advanced law course taught in law schools since the 80’s, not a concept that all white kids should feel guilty and morally inferior being taught in middle schools.
It’s been rebranded as this catch all phrase for anything far right wing nuts don’t like….like history…and most of what it claims is happening is nonsense, just like kids identifying as cats and shitting in litter boxes in school. That is historical fact admitted by the man who intentionally rebranded it to make it political. Read.
You can’t define crt, you just know it’s bad and you hate it. So lost and gullible are you. You believe the most idiotic nonsense.

Once again you buy the fake boogie man hook line and sinker without doing a stitch of research on reality, maybe you read a few far right wing tweets by some ignoramuses or liars (or both), but you clearly haven’t strayed outside the echo chamber, you rarely do.

Here’s one take on the history of the intentional bastardization and hyper exaggeration of the concept as a political tool. Try reading the whole thing.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-inquiry/how-a-conservative-activist-invented-the-conflict-over-critical-race-theory

Now, Ashley Babbitt. She deserved to be shot and shouldn’t have fucked with police, right?
You ever going to grow a pair and answer a simple question? Undoubtedly not, you can’t ever answer questions, only repeat loaded questions someone else handed you. It’s really sad and makes you a sniveling coward. Expect it to be pointed out daily.

Aaaaahahahaha!!!! $965 MILLION IN DAMAGES to 8 Sandy Hook families today….+ their attorney fees so over a BILLION!

“This must be what hell is like.” - Alex Jones

Jones still faces at least one more round of defamation lawsuits over his Sandy Hook denials.

About damn time that dangerous nut job is taken off the air. Hopefully this will end Infowars (the far right war against information) and keep him a pauper until he dies on skid row.

Now go suck some more frog dick, Alex.

So apparently Trump’s final (secret) move in office was to erase the “red flags” on 2.7 million PPP loans that would have caused the recipients to be investigated, and most would have been forced to return the money. All loans over $2 million had red flags erased, apparently the smaller loans didn’t get the same treatment, the most common red flag was that the companies didn’t exist in February 2020. (They were created on paper to defraud the PPP loan process set up by Trump’s administration with no oversight intentionally to allow fraud.)

$190 BILLION worth of flagged >$2 million loans to millionaires he demanded not be investigated for obvious fraud and instead be totally forgiven.

Kinda puts a damper on the “we can’t afford student loan forgiveness” of loans in the tens of thousands to the needy when we can afford fraudulent millionaire loan forgiveness of loans in the millions to millionaires, and tax giveaways to them in the millions at the same time.

More Republican crime covered up by Trump. Another $190 BILLION handed to millionaire crooks by their public spokesman….after $2 TRILLION in tax breaks.

In case you missed it, Trump’s Proud Boys are pleading guilty to seditious conspiracy, admitting they were attempting a coup for Trump at his direction and with some direct assistance and communication directly from highest ranking members of his administration (Stone, Giuliani, secret service agents) that knew what they were doing ahead of time.
They stood back and stood by until Trump called them to help with his coup. That’s treason. All parties complicit in the conspiracy are guilty too…that includes Trump and his family.
The sentence for treason is death. America may soon inherit a number of deep in debt golf courses! (Unless some nut with high powered guns they shouldn’t have takes matters into their own hands)

J.R. Majewski…..ROTFLMFAHS!!! Stolen valor isn’t the best campaign. Dumped.

JD Vance….AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!! Suckers…he’s an elite. D’oh!

For all his “I’m one of you” “I’m anti elite” schtick he’s really a billionaire’s protege with more money spent by one billionaire on his campaign than any single donor ever spent on one candidate, over $16 million. Most if not statistically all his support has come from billionaires….they don’t support people who don’t repay them 10 fold.
His campaign is based on fighting elites and ruling class, but gets all his funding from those people.
Claims to be against big pharma, then hires a pharma employee to head his plan.
He complains about gas prices and takes millions from companies convicted of price gouging gasoline in California.
He complains about big tech stealing your data but owns part of Hallo which is a prayer app that steals your data and sells it for $60 a year.

Peter Thiell, his benefactor and mentor, is a billionaire nut that thinks the military should be in charge, not government. He is blatantly anti democratic, saying he doesn’t believe democracy and freedom are compatible. He’s given $16 million to the guy who SAYS he’s against elites.

MAGA candidates are being exposed as the total pure frauds and morons they are all across America. Your idiot movement is dead. 😂

PS- Trump is having more special master problems because none of the companies that electronically host discovery documents for cases like this (e-discovery vendors) will contract with Trump because they all expect him to not pay them. This means the government will be forced to contract with them and have the judge force Trump to pay or be in criminal contempt.

FYI- A Michigan man just murdered his family including his dog (killed his wife and dog, shot his daughter in the face with a shotgun) because he was mad over the election fraud fraud and outraged his family all knew it was delusional nonsense, (apparently even the dog), then he suicided by cops.
Not the first one of you Trumpist nuts who murdered his family over Q insanity.

Nobody killed their family when Clinton only got 3 million more votes than Trump yet “lost” the electoral college (she won the election). That’s because the right is the violent, vitriolic, terroristic, 100% delusional “side”.

Half right. Trump is like a tumor….a malignant tumor on America’s taint…surrounded by nuts and assholes. (Really, he’s closer to fournier’s gangrene…google it but don’t click images)

If he would stop trying to overthrow the American government, stop committing treason, stop the espionage and was finally forced to face the consequences of his actions, made an example of rather than coddled, I would never give him another thought.

It’s only because he’s actually demanding an overthrow of the elected president and sitting senators and house representatives, talking heads, and ignorant masses act like he’s right not treasonous, continuing to commit treason after his failed election frauds and failed coup with hundreds of stolen top secret classified documents, and has definitely committed espionage just by having the top secret classified documents outside a compartmentalized facility designed to house them securely that I give him a moment’s notice even if he didn’t share/sell them already. If there weren’t so many crazy cultists like you prepared to become a dictatorship under their cult leader, he would be harmless and therefore not a concern and not given a thought….but there are millions of you putting cult of personality over country.

Biden lives in your brain 24/7….for no reason. Even Hunter lives there….that’s like me obsessing about Tiffany, the only Trump not an in your face nepotistic government grifter.

Derp. Of course not. As I said, that’s classified level information, just the topics of the documents he stole are classified….fuckwit. That’s the sensitivity level of what he STOLE on his way out, then lied about still having.
Also Trump’s lawyers are fighting (poorly) to keep even the topics hidden from even the FBI and DOJ. They’ll go to the Supreme Court to keep them from becoming public. Why, if there’s nothing there, are they going to such lengths to hide the evidence?

Can you name one sensitive document Clinton had? I seriously doubt it after hundreds of millions and a dozen or more investigations, and those were lowest level classification documents not even labeled classified.

What was found was over 700 pages of classified documents, including at least 11 separate top secret classified sets of documents, at least 3 the highest top secret level not allowed out of secure facilities and that cannot be declassified by the president, usually meaning nuclear secrets but possible non nuclear but just as sensitive highest level state secrets.
You don’t need to know EXACTLY what the secrets are to know it’s criminal to have them, and to keep them unsecured, and to lie to the FBI about having them. You only demand that information because you know it won’t be produced….it’s an artificial bar you’re floating in the sky and saying “you haven’t reached that bar yet”….the fifth or sixth bar this scandal. It will be great if Biden decides the public knowing outweighs the secrecy and declassifies that information….won’t it?

I would point out, the documents being classified is not a requirement of any of the 3 laws cited in the warrant…just that he took them, kept them, and hid/lied about having them. There’s no doubt on all 3.

I’ve never claimed to KNOW they were nuclear secrets, others claimed that, I said they were likely nuclear secrets or might be other secrets of the same import and classification.
“ Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought in a search of former president Donald Trump’s Florida residence on Monday, according to people familiar with the investigation.”. To be honest, I haven’t read the redacted warrant to see if that’s what they were specifically looking for, but word is they found what they were looking for.

You never agree when I’m undeniably right, you just ghost.
You never admit you were wrong. Not once in the near dozen years we’ve been “talking”. I bet elsewhere you still claim Jan 6 was ANTIFA and BLM but not a single Trumpist, despite reality being the exact opposite. I bet elsewhere you still claim 2020 was a stolen election (only the presidential race though, the rest of all the ballots are valid).
You can find dozens of times I’ve admitted I was incorrect, I usually thank the person who set me straight, but I don’t recall you ever correctly correcting me so likely not directly to you.
I’ve agreed with you on some points, but never your overall take. It’s always nuts.
You agree individual cops are bad, then say it’s always an outlier, one bad apple, then throw tantrums accusing me of saying things I had not said like we should have no police at all.
You rarely agree about evil criminal Republicans, sometimes you say they shouldn’t hold office but what about “x”, but soon forget and support them, or Trump does and you say nothing but just grin….or you just say crooks are better than lefties. Don’t you still support Gaetz despite the underage human trafficking, Bohbert despite supporting her husband exposing himself to two 15 year old girls in her presence, Judge Roy despite years of trolling for 13 year old girls at the mall, even Trump despite being best friends with Epstein for years and years after he admitted serial child molesting, partying in private with him and YOUNG girls and joking about sex with his daughter and other children (something actual child abusers do).

“My side” is often wrong (it’s not my side btw, I’m a Democrat based on sanity). Assault weapon bans for instance, are dumb. Either eliminate all clip fed semi auto without a licensed necessity or none. Cosmetics are just that. Your turn.

Again with the Magnificent Spaghetti Monster, may you be touched with his noodly appendage. You like to degrade what you think are my sources, but you have no clue what they are. I’ll just say CNN is never on my TV, and I really don’t know what MSM is, I thought you meant MSNBC, which I also don’t watch! 😂

Only facts matter to me, that’s why I’m willing to cite sources unlike you who is embarrassed of where your nonsense came from. I read both sides of an issue, and the original data the conclusions come from and decide for myself….usually agreeing with the left but not always, but never with the right because they are insane and delusional, believing only their alternate facts (what were called lies before Trump). Facts have never mattered to you, only partisan blame games.

Name a disastrous government response or responsibility you blame on Republicans. I’ll start, I’ll blame our current friendly status with Saudi Arabia on Biden, they should be on the terrorist state list, and it’s his call now. Your turn.
*crickets*

Edit: PS- Courts ruled last week that Barr outright lied about the contents of the Mueller report and about the idea that without a conviction on the underlying crime there could be no obstruction, ruled that there are 10 instances of legal obstruction listed in the report, and that Barr bold faced lied about it, hid it from the public, and did this intentionally to obstruct Justice, to protect Trump from valid charges that might have removed him from office during his impeachment….or as I’m sure you’ll say….”nothing burger” (because you have no problem with criminality if it’s from the right. The chances any evidence would make you say Trump is unfit are zero.)

Still think it backfired?
Republicans are #runawaying from Trump, Fox is turning on him (again). These protests for Trump, at least those I’ve seen footage of, have under 10 people each.
This is NOT helping your party, it’s just riling up the lunatics that get 100% of their news from far right propaganda outlets….propaganda outlets so unpopular they’re disappearing from the airwaves in droves because they’re totally unprofitable.



It did poke the nest of crazy anti American terrorists who have taken it as a sign they should attack the FBI with AR15s, and made hundreds or thousands of credible death threats against FBI and police agents, judges, families, young children, and many many others. America can handle a few thousand nut jobs. We did on Jan 6…and this time the orders won’t be “handle the attackers with kid gloves”.
So far, those going too far are the same people who went too far for Trump on Jan 6….a bunch of loud nutty Karens throwing tantrums that convinced themselves they represent the majority despite their meager numbers.

pardon if misinterpreting the 98% figure...

but most killings are done by the gun owner - on themselves.

suicides are annually #1 in gun deaths.

the life you may save might be yours - especially when men use guns for suicide far and away more than women. couple that w/a quarter of Americans say they have experienced some form of mental illness in their lifetime. in addition, the percentage of citizens wanting gun control eclipses the former stat: meaning a significate number of crazies see the need also.

which begs the question - how nuts do you have to be to want nuts to have guns?

on the 2nd Amendment, personally interpreted this way...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eya_k4P-iEo...also (imagine that).