Looking forward to this one. Dug the ole Logitech joystick out of the moving boxes and dusted it off....

>> ^xxovercastxx:

However, any place I've ever seen that implements AA does so via quotas. Quotas should be illegal under the aforementioned EO laws. If I'm the most qualified person, I should get the job. If I'm denied the job because I'm a white male and the company has a quota to meet, then that was not an equal opportunity, it was discrimination.


I think this is a boogieman. White people use "quotas" to explain to other white people why they can't just give them a job for being white. I would be interested in some actual evidence that quotas have been used to refuse to hire a clearly more competent candidate more often then racism does so.

If your organization of more than a few dozen people does not look demographically a while lot like your local general population, then your hiring practices are almost certainly racist, even if nobody is making them that way intentionally. Quotas only factor into hiring when your hiring process has already failed to be color-blind, If your organization has been racist, and now they have to play catch up by reversing the bias, that seems fair enough to me.

I'm not a proponent of quotas, but my issue with quotas is that they don't generally address issues of class, having all the black folks moving boxes, and all the white folks sitting in cubicles, does very little to address the disproportionate race/class correlation.

I'm stocking up on cardboard tubes, duct tape and moving boxes before I show my 8 yr old this video.

pretty fun.

what about recycling glass? they didn't do my homework for me on that front... anyone else know about whether recycling glass is worth it?


My recycling center has hazardous waste collection (motor oil, antifreeze, batteries large and small, etc.) and also has reusable materials areas that functions similar to a free Goodwill store, and set-aside areas for consumables others might like to reuse (its where I get all my cardboard moving boxes... its a college town).